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Panda-monium - Trump Thread #170

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Spandauer · 29/09/2026 19:01

Mid-terms looming, approval falling, prices rising, wars ongoing - Ping Ping and Fu Shuang must be wondering what heinous crime they committed to be banished chosen as envoys of friendship between China and USA. 🐼🐼

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SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 14:21

AcrossthePond55 · 25/10/2026 13:38

The 'take it or leave it' out of state warrant situation isn't really two tier justice, as it isn't usually based on status, wealth, or ethnicity. It's whether or not the 'warrant' state wants the expense of extradition and trial and/or the 'notoriety' of the case. In some cases the answer is yes, in others it's "not our problem anymore".

But I think to a certain extent that there probably isn't a country on Earth that doesn't have some form of two tier justice. Just the fact that wealth will buy you a better defense is two tier justice in some way. And I think some system of 'good ol' boy/girl' and 'back scratching' will exist everywhere. Even a case with some degree of 'notoriety' will often get a good defense lawyer 'pro bono' if they think they'll get publicity or a book out of it, ie Melvin Belli and Sirhan Sirhan.

The US has a byzantine approach to state laws. It would have to be to allow (for example) marriages that were legal in one state, but illegal in another (the Equal Protections Clause).

logicisall · 25/10/2026 15:28

RedTagAlan · 25/10/2026 11:04

And yet Vance was accusing the UK of having two tier policing.

What is that saying ? Every accusation is an admission ?

"“Ideological conditioning and two-tiered policing are glaring symptoms of civilizational decline. They must be rejected across the West,” the U.S. State Department wrote in a social media post Thursday. "

I won't clip what Vance said.

UK rejects US accusation of 'two-tiered policing' over murder of Henry Nowak (thehill.com)

US two tier policing. #Anne_Sacoolas

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RedTagAlan · 25/10/2026 15:50

logicisall · 25/10/2026 15:28

US two tier policing. #Anne_Sacoolas

And the recent one of the diplomat being "smuggled" out of the UK.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:19

Wasn't there a CIA man's wife who killed a motor-bicyclist by driving straight into him on the wrong side of the road and was hastily put onto a flight back to the US so she couldn't be punished for dangerous (in this case lethal) driving? She claimed diplomatic immunity and I can't recall if she ever got any punishment at all for the killing.

It was "before Covid" but I can't remember how long before, or the names of anyone involved. I know Trump was President, because the grieving parents had the additional horror of meeting the President and it being Trump.

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 16:26

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:19

Wasn't there a CIA man's wife who killed a motor-bicyclist by driving straight into him on the wrong side of the road and was hastily put onto a flight back to the US so she couldn't be punished for dangerous (in this case lethal) driving? She claimed diplomatic immunity and I can't recall if she ever got any punishment at all for the killing.

It was "before Covid" but I can't remember how long before, or the names of anyone involved. I know Trump was President, because the grieving parents had the additional horror of meeting the President and it being Trump.

Edited

She claimed immunity in her own right - god alone knows what she was up to here (I still maintain she may as well have been tasked with bumping off UK citizens).

The whole "wife of a diplomat" thing was a bit of smoke to distract the less critical thinkers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

All this does is reinforce, not obscure, the fact that the US has no respect for other nations sovereignty. Which would be a scandal if we forget how Britain acted when it was top dog.

Death of Harry Dunn - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:34

I don't see how anybody else's behaviour at any time prevents the US current behaviour under Trump from being a scandal.

RedTagAlan · 25/10/2026 16:46

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:19

Wasn't there a CIA man's wife who killed a motor-bicyclist by driving straight into him on the wrong side of the road and was hastily put onto a flight back to the US so she couldn't be punished for dangerous (in this case lethal) driving? She claimed diplomatic immunity and I can't recall if she ever got any punishment at all for the killing.

It was "before Covid" but I can't remember how long before, or the names of anyone involved. I know Trump was President, because the grieving parents had the additional horror of meeting the President and it being Trump.

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@logicisall posted above. Anne_Sacoolas

For info.

RedTagAlan · 25/10/2026 16:51

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:34

I don't see how anybody else's behaviour at any time prevents the US current behaviour under Trump from being a scandal.

I take it you have not seen the Burnham threads :-)

I find it all a bit odd. The Reform voters are at it bigley, but no mention of Trump, their hero.

walllaw · 25/10/2026 16:53

RedTagAlan · 25/10/2026 11:10

I think this is Trump's TRUTH reply.

"Sunday, October 25, 2026 4:42 AM Truth Social

Obama was a grossly incompetent President! He paid off Iran with $Billions, and gave them a road to a Nuclear Weapon. He said that Crooked Hillary Clinton was going to WIN, he campaigned hard for her, and she lost in all directions and ways. He then campaigned full out for Kamala, and likewise, she lost. Now he's campaigning for a Muslim Brotherhood Jihadist, who hates Jews and Blacks and AMERICANS and TRUMP, and he is going to lose, also. He's a Fake Doctor, who runs what is considered to be the WORST CLINIC IN AMERICA. I won Michigan, BIG, have brought back the Car Industry, the Air Force Base, and everything else. Also, more jobs than ever before. Michigan doesn't want an arrogant, Open Borders, Fake Doctor, Jihadist, whose reputation will only get worse as more information is revealed - And there's plenty. VOTE FOR MIKE ROGERS! He will never let you down! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

I get the impression Trump saw the vid of Obama.

Oh, I think mental vids of Obama run in his head 24/7

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 16:54

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/10/2026 16:34

I don't see how anybody else's behaviour at any time prevents the US current behaviour under Trump from being a scandal.

I like history myself. It can explain a lot. I learned very very young (thanks to DPs) that there tends to be a line between what has happened, what is happening and what may happen.

So yes - the way Britain threw it's weight around when it could has definitely left the equivalent of parch marks in the modern world. In the same way you can still pick out the contours of the two sides in the British civil wars, and before that the two sides of the Reformation that led to Catholic and Protestant battle lines.

In the US the same can be said of it's civil war.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 16:55

May I lighten the mood by telling you about what were, to my mind, the best bits of the latest episode of "Have I Got News for You"?

  1. Discussing the riots in France, a photo of a protestor carrying a baguette as a weapon, apparently having been seen worldwide, was shown. The comment was to the effect that the French didn't like that as it was after 3.00pm and the baguette would be stale.
  2. Trump was shown at a rally saying: “I'm waiting for accolades from the press, and they said, 'what about the cost of beef?' Boeuf? You know what boeuf is? Expensive beef… they charge more money if you call it boeuf,” Trump said." That strange concept aside, his pronunciation of "boeuf" (bwaff) was ridiculous.
  3. Phil Wang took the opportunity to mention that in France, they're calling President Macron a lame duck president, and they call Trump "duck à l'orange".

Oh, please yourselves.

walllaw · 25/10/2026 17:05

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 16:55

May I lighten the mood by telling you about what were, to my mind, the best bits of the latest episode of "Have I Got News for You"?

  1. Discussing the riots in France, a photo of a protestor carrying a baguette as a weapon, apparently having been seen worldwide, was shown. The comment was to the effect that the French didn't like that as it was after 3.00pm and the baguette would be stale.
  2. Trump was shown at a rally saying: “I'm waiting for accolades from the press, and they said, 'what about the cost of beef?' Boeuf? You know what boeuf is? Expensive beef… they charge more money if you call it boeuf,” Trump said." That strange concept aside, his pronunciation of "boeuf" (bwaff) was ridiculous.
  3. Phil Wang took the opportunity to mention that in France, they're calling President Macron a lame duck president, and they call Trump "duck à l'orange".

Oh, please yourselves.

I'm definitely putting this on while I make dinner tonight. I could use the Hislop/Merton wit right now.

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 17:10

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 16:55

May I lighten the mood by telling you about what were, to my mind, the best bits of the latest episode of "Have I Got News for You"?

  1. Discussing the riots in France, a photo of a protestor carrying a baguette as a weapon, apparently having been seen worldwide, was shown. The comment was to the effect that the French didn't like that as it was after 3.00pm and the baguette would be stale.
  2. Trump was shown at a rally saying: “I'm waiting for accolades from the press, and they said, 'what about the cost of beef?' Boeuf? You know what boeuf is? Expensive beef… they charge more money if you call it boeuf,” Trump said." That strange concept aside, his pronunciation of "boeuf" (bwaff) was ridiculous.
  3. Phil Wang took the opportunity to mention that in France, they're calling President Macron a lame duck president, and they call Trump "duck à l'orange".

Oh, please yourselves.

4 Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babiš responded to a Sky News question about whether the UK would be welcome back in the EU by stating, “Yes of course. We need more money”.

REP22 · 25/10/2026 17:26

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 16:26

She claimed immunity in her own right - god alone knows what she was up to here (I still maintain she may as well have been tasked with bumping off UK citizens).

The whole "wife of a diplomat" thing was a bit of smoke to distract the less critical thinkers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn

All this does is reinforce, not obscure, the fact that the US has no respect for other nations sovereignty. Which would be a scandal if we forget how Britain acted when it was top dog.

And during Trump's first term the bereaved parents of Harry Dunn went to the US to try and gain justice for their son's death. Trump had them whisked into the White House, then he sat and talked with them without pre-warning them that Anne Sacoolas was actually sitting in the next room, about to be ushered into their presence. Despicable.

Have I Got News for You at the moment, along with this thread, are the only things keeping this stuff grounded. The whole things pierces my soul with utter despair.

Talkinpeace · 25/10/2026 17:30

I am rather loving the number of social media accounts pointing out that if Dumpf changes the rules so he can run a third time
he WILL end up facing Obama (and not the Michelle variety)

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 17:45

I've found it interesting that President Obama has been putting himself around (so to speak) clearly denigrating Trump, much more, recently. His campaign rally yesterday in Cleveland, Ohio, was quite something, I thought. Trouble is, he's preaching to the converted. MAGATs won't get over his colour, nor that of his tan suit.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barack-obama-goes-scorched-earth-on-donald-trump-at-packed-ohio-rally

CLEVELAND, OHIO - OCTOBER 24: Former U.S. President Barack Obama speaks during a campaign rally at Cleveland Public Auditorium on October 24, 2026 in Cleveland, Ohio. Obama is campaigning for Ohio Democratic candidates including Senate candidate, forme...

Obama Goes Scorched Earth on Trump at Packed Ohio Rally

The former president had plenty to say about his successor’s White House renovations—and the “not serious” people running the country.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/barack-obama-goes-scorched-earth-on-donald-trump-at-packed-ohio-rally

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2026 18:10

Talkinpeace · 25/10/2026 17:30

I am rather loving the number of social media accounts pointing out that if Dumpf changes the rules so he can run a third time
he WILL end up facing Obama (and not the Michelle variety)

(in theory) he can't "change the rules".

However I can well believe SCOTUS are capable of striking down an amendment as "not really what was intended". They are within a whisper of it over the 14th.

placemats · 25/10/2026 18:12

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 17:45

I've found it interesting that President Obama has been putting himself around (so to speak) clearly denigrating Trump, much more, recently. His campaign rally yesterday in Cleveland, Ohio, was quite something, I thought. Trouble is, he's preaching to the converted. MAGATs won't get over his colour, nor that of his tan suit.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barack-obama-goes-scorched-earth-on-donald-trump-at-packed-ohio-rally

Maga might not vote though. Obama is firing up the Dems to vote. Seems logical to me.

Plus Obama really annoys orange man. Who is losing support daily.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 25/10/2026 18:21

HUGE plus, @placematsGrin

RedTagAlan · 26/10/2026 02:17

Here is a man with his finger on the pulse of world affairs.

“I don’t know anything about it, but I think she’s a very nice woman, She gave me her Nobel Prize, so how can I say anything else? And I hope she’s safe.”

Opposition leader María Corina Machado returns to Venezuela from exile | CNN

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RedTagAlan · 26/10/2026 03:04

I found a gem in a TRUTH.

"I won’t waste time in FACT CHECKING him"

Yup, he said that. Want the context ? It's pasted below. The TRUTH itself reminds me of Arthurs Seat in Edinburgh. Why ? Well, because Arthurs Seat is a big old volcanic vent. That quote takes a bit of hunting, the same as a wild Haggis on the slopes of Arthurs seat (Lowland Haggis are awful wee, about half the size of a really wee mouse. Same as any truth in a Trump TRUTH)

"Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · October 25, 2026, 8:00 PM

Let’s talk about this COMPLETE AND TOTAL LOSER, Bill Maher. He’s got a Low Rated Show on equally Low Rated HBO, which was once, long ago, a Network of Quality and Excitement — But that’s all gone. It’s not “HOT” anymore! Maher’s friend and business associate, Chuck LaBella, was also a friend of mine, worked on The Top Hit Show, The Apprentice, as a “gofer” and, because of the success of that show, Number One and Top Rated on many weeks, with the Finale’ being among the Top Shows of the Year, he was automatically and quickly brought up through the Ranks of NBC, along with everyone else associated with that Historic “Happening.” The Success of the Apprentice was so great that everyone partook — It built many careers, and that is a wonderful thing. Some people say it even built my career, because I became President (I would have won without it!). In any event, over the last few years, LaBella would call me nonstop to say, “Hello,” be very nice, and tell me how much Bill Maher “loves” and respects me, and would constantly ask of me, even before I was President, for any form of meeting with Maher and, would I do his show? When I became President, I agreed to meet, after the first one, and the last one, but never agreed to do his show, which he wants me to do, DESPARATELY — It won’t happen! When I have watched the show, which isn’t often, it always ends with dishonesty, about me at least, but, who cares? He doesn’t think it was a good thing to take the Nuclear Weapon away from Iran, which shows you that he is not very smart. If I allowed them to obtain a Nuclear Weapon, the World would be a different place right now! Using Fake Polls, he also said I had my Lowest Ratings so far, “and even the Republican Party doesn’t like him,” but that’s not true. I have High Ratings and, more importantly, he said that I’m losing the support and approval of the Republican Party when, in fact, CNN just came out with a Poll showing that I’m at 98 and 99% support within the Republican Party, an All Time Record High. Ronald Reagan was at 86%. CNN’s Harry Enten also said I am “The Most Influential President of the Last Century.” CNN did another Poll at who was the Most Popular Person in the History of the Republican Party, and I won that, too, with me being at 53%, Ronald Reagan being at 18%, and Abraham Lincoln being at 8%, and these are CNN Polls, people not exactly in love with me, so, Bill Maher lied, but he lies about everything, and I believe he lied to me when I asked him, with all the applause and laughter he gets after almost everything he says, about thing that aren’t funny or even any good, what Laughter Machine does he use? People can’t think he’s funny. I didn’t know Bill, he didn’t know me, and that was OK. Then Chuck LaBella, and my friend, Kid Rock, called me incessantly about meeting with Bill Maher. My first response was, “Fellas, this guy’s a Goofball.” They said, “He wants to go down to the White House, be with you, and talk. He said you’re very smart, but you’re not into the Liberal Platform. Will you start thinking about it?” He invited himself to the White House! We had our first meeting, Bill was very nervous. He asked for a drink. He was very insecure, and he had a seriously bruised eye and nose area, as though somebody had just beaten him up — But it wasn’t me!

No sooner had we had that first dinner at the White House, which is a very seductive and beautiful place, especially now that I have fully renovated and fixed it in the style which it deserves, Bill wanted to come back. The Gofer called me multiple times, saying how much Bill loves me, that he respects me more than anybody, and wants to come back for a second meeting. After ten calls from Chuck LaBella, it seemed that these guys were serious, and wanted to learn more, because their Policies are so bad, it’s ridiculous! Also, I wanted to tell Bill that he’s a major POTHEAD. He’s got to stop, it’s very bad for his health. He looked like hell this time. Bill was drunk and had alcohol in his hand as he walked through the White House. Stephen A. Smith and Kid Rock came along with him. Overall, I thought it was a good meeting. It didn’t last four hours, it lasted two hours, maybe less, and everybody was happy. We have the timestamps. I learned nothing, and felt it was a waste of time. After the first dinner, Bill Maher was friendly, I guess, everyone walked away pleased. He gave me a good first show, with lots of Laughing Machine laughter, which is a real term, but it is what it is, and then reverted back to his former self, and his old ways. I understand that. He’s doing his thing. I never took it very personally. I would always mock his Low Ratings, whenever I heard. He’s not a nice guy, and what he spouts isn’t what he believes. He has to cater to his base, which is mostly composed of Losers, and people who don’t like working. It’s why, for so long, I didn’t get another call from Chuck LaBella, and I didn’t miss him one bit. After the second dinner, Bill’s “show” was far worse than the first. He went crazy! He’s gutless, because he enjoyed every minute. Also, I am not a building a swimming pool in the White House Briefing Room, and never had any intention of doing so. I am thinking about moving the Press, and putting them in a different location, but I will use that location for very badly needed space. Bill also attacked our Great Republican Candidates, when he knows my Endorsement Record is 98% in the House, and 100% in the Senate, so how can he make a false statement like this? These Statistics are FACTS, and he should speak about them, but he won’t, because he is very unfair!

Karoline Leavitt was GREAT on the show, but she started with a biased, dumb SLEAZEBAG, asking questions. She defended me, and herself, so well, but couldn’t be comfortable going against Lie after Lie. Importantly, Bill lied about all of the Illegal Voters in the Radical controlled, decrepit, and devastated State of California. Just in the last few days alone, they found 20,000, and the number could easily go to over 1,000,000. There were so many other falsehoods Bill spewed, but I won’t waste time in FACT CHECKING him. He isn’t worth it. Bill: Don’t call anymore. It’s useless, and tell Chuck LaBella not to call so much, and say how much you love “TRUMP,” and want to get together, because you’re a hopeless guy, who is just trying to cater to your small group of “fans.” You’re also a coward who is afraid to tell the truth about how well our Country is running because of your few “fans,” and how badly the Dumocrats have done, almost destroying the U.S.A. If I hadn’t won the Election, it would be DEAD! Also, turn your Laugh Machine off, it’s a joke when they laugh uncontrollably, even when you say nothing funny, and I’m going to have the Republicans not cover you anymore, because they try to talk about you as a guy who is transformative. You’re not transformative, you’re a Loser! I never watched your show much, but I will never watch it again, because it is nothing more than FAKE NEWS that America, and the World, is unfortunately subjected to. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP"

Aye Don. Better out than in. Let it all out son. Let it out. Then go for a nice long holiday. If you want a bit of solitude, I heard Northern Greenland is nice this time of year. It's just gone night time there. Morning is next March. Nice long nap.

DuncinToffee · 26/10/2026 07:24

Lula has won in Brazil, beating Trump's Bolsonaro.

Spandauer · 26/10/2026 08:29

Thanks @RedTagAlan Goodness - that last TS is a doozie! I would have tagged it as a parody 6 months ago but now it's reality. How much is 🍊💩 and how much is Nanny Nats paraphrasing and putting her own deranged feelings down? Even more disturbingly weird than usual. And can you imagine her reading it back to him... in his voice?

Whichever way they go, post midterms is going to be wild. (And not in a good way)

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Spandauer · 26/10/2026 08:30

Lula's win is going to hurt The Donald's tiny brain.

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