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Spandauer · 29/09/2026 19:01

Mid-terms looming, approval falling, prices rising, wars ongoing - Ping Ping and Fu Shuang must be wondering what heinous crime they committed to be banished chosen as envoys of friendship between China and USA. 🐼🐼

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walllaw · 19/10/2026 12:16

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/10/2026 17:11

Maybe the fact that she was born in California makes a difference? She's more American than the President's wife...

Truthfully, I don't think his party is bothering asking most people who like like Usha where they were born...

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2026 14:45

I can't see China helping Russia anytime soon. Especially not as part of a plant to elevate the US.

I can see China helping China and shitting on both the US and Russia on it's way to the top.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2026 15:11

walllaw · 19/10/2026 12:16

Truthfully, I don't think his party is bothering asking most people who like like Usha where they were born...

Yeah, even if they are in Congress.

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placemats · 19/10/2026 15:51

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2026 14:45

I can't see China helping Russia anytime soon. Especially not as part of a plant to elevate the US.

I can see China helping China and shitting on both the US and Russia on it's way to the top.

Agree, especially after Lysenko and his crazy theories that contributed to mass famine.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2026 16:17

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2026 09:32

I was very interested to hear from El Sayed that John F Kennedy got tasked with questions about allegiance for being Catholic.

Historically that's been a major accusation in the UK against Catholics for centuries: that their first allegiance is surely to the Pope?

In fact I'm waiting for that one to have a resurgence here, given so much of our current politics is about division-mongering.Hmm

As an aside, our own Tommy the Twat (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon aka Tommy Robinson) has Irish parents and changed his name to sound less Irish. So if he pumps up the Christian nationalism it immediately makes him vulnerable to questions about which flavour of Christianity he belongs to and to whom his allegiances lie.<shrug>

@PerkingFaintly

I was very interested to hear from El Sayed that John F Kennedy got tasked with questions about allegiance for being Catholic.

Although I was just a child, I remember this. I wasn't really old enough to understand 'Protestant vs Catholic' theology, I just knew it wasn't Baptist lol. But I remember our neighbour and my mum talking over the wall and the neighbour saying with 'great enthusiasm' that it would be just terrible for JFK to be elected because 'the Pope would run the country'.

From what I 'gleaned' growing up JFK's Catholicism was a huge 'talking point' for the GOP. And I'd say it was on par with accusations against Muslim candidates for office today. Of course, it wasn't alleged that Catholics were going to stage an Auto-de-fé or that Kennedy was Torquemada, but they made the 'Pope will run America!!!' sound just as bad.

Back then, I had to ask my mom what a pope was lol. She just told me he 'ran the Catholic Church' but for me to pay no mind to 'Betty' because she was being silly. This same neighbour later told her daughter (who repeated it to me)that Catholics weren't Christians and that our little play-friend was going to Hell because she was Catholic. Had to ask Mum about that one too!

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2026 16:21

It's very rare that I pay in cash these days, but I (and a good number of my friends) plan to refuse this joke of a coin as change if we do.

RedTagAlan · 19/10/2026 16:31

placemats · 19/10/2026 15:51

Agree, especially after Lysenko and his crazy theories that contributed to mass famine.

Not that really. Disputed territory. An Island in the Amur River. Almost came to nuke war over it in 1969. And that came about because of the Khrushchev secret speech in 1956, where Krushchev talked against the cult of personality. That upset Mao. Led to the Sino USSR split. And even before that, there was competition between Mao and Stalin over who was the best communist. Who was the next Marx.

There was a bit of a thaw in the late 90s into the 2000s. But what happened then was shocking. Shocking I tell ya.

The PRC wanted to upgrade it's military, And asked the Russian Federation to do joint ventures for stuff. And Russia did, they set up plants in the PRC, with promises of partnership and big orders going in. They set up the lines to make aircraft and so on, made a few bits, then China cancelled the joint ventures... and guess what... they started making their own planes and helicopters, in Chinese factories... all designed in the PRC apparently.... but they looked astoundingly identical to the USSR ones.

Oh, the Xi/ Putin meeting at the BJ winter Olympics. That was Feb 2022. In Sept 2022, there was this-

China, Russia share bright cooperation potential in fish processing and infrastructure construction in Kuril Islands: experts - Global Times

They both do not like Japan.

The joint venture stuff struck deep thou. Can't remember the date, but in the Ukraine war there were PRC Engineers there. And Russia banned them. Because any western tech captured was for Russia only.

As Serendipity says above, the PRC only do things that benefit the PRC, more specifically The Party.

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2026 16:32

walllaw · 19/10/2026 12:16

Truthfully, I don't think his party is bothering asking most people who like like Usha where they were born...

Nope. Especially since according to them she possibly shouldn't have 'birthright citizenship', depending on her parent's legal status at the time of her birth.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2026 16:37

AcrossthePond55 · 19/10/2026 16:21

It's very rare that I pay in cash these days, but I (and a good number of my friends) plan to refuse this joke of a coin as change if we do.

The biggest joke is the order to MAGA to give money to libtards.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2026 16:42

RedTagAlan · 16/10/2026 15:44

Indeed, and that is a massive can of worms.

However, I remember something from a few years back, And here it is.

"To avoid a lawsuit, Donald Trump’s social media site is quietly acknowledging the computer code powering the platform comes from Mastodon.

Trump’s “Truth Social” site now features a dedicated section labeled “open source,” which contains a Zip archive to Mastodon’s source code. “Our goal is to support the open source community no matter what your political beliefs are. That's why the first place we go to find amazing software is the community and not ‘Big Tech,’” the site adds."

Trump's social media site quietly admits it's based on Mastodon (mashable.com)

Trumps own TRUTH SOCIAL is built on freeware. And he tried to get around the T&Cs of publishing the code Sneaky.

There was a similar thing in the PRC. They had blocked GITHUB in the country because it has a forum section that was being used by some #Me Too women. ( as I recall, could be wrong). But a while later, the PRC announced its own "fully domestic designed and coded PC OS. No eagle eyes need for people to spot something. "Hey, that's Linux". And Github is the repository for Linux distros, so they had to lift that ban, and publish the source code. As per T&Cs.

Not even Trump or the CPC wants to be in the press for fighting a freeware org.

That might a be a weak point?

https://www.theregister.com/columnists/2026/10/19/ais-epic-cash-call-is-matched-only-by-its-ability-to-strangle-revenue-streams/5303493

AI’s epic cash call is matched only by its ability to strangle revenue streams

The first technology created with a self-disrupt button... But why oh why didn't they call Claude clone Fauxtoshop?

https://www.theregister.com/columnists/2026/10/19/ais-epic-cash-call-is-matched-only-by-its-ability-to-strangle-revenue-streams/5303493

RedTagAlan · 19/10/2026 17:12

That is interesting.

Quote " An industrious individual has released source code and binaries for Claude-copied Microsoft Office and Adobe Creative Suite programs, disappointingly not calling elements of the latter Fauxtoshop."

I was doing something using the Libre Office spreadsheet the other day. And I was thinking that I wish the program did not have do many features. I just want to do something simple. I wish much of the software today could go back a lot of years in a way. Because I think productivity would go up. Keep some of the good features blah blah.

And here we are, Get AI ( SI to Trumpies), to do your bespoke software for your specific application.

I remember back to my first job in Engineering. We used triplicate books. If you wanted to ask for something to be done, you wrote it down. Walked to the shop floor, copy for the shift foreman, copy to the fitters, and a bit of a chat.

But that was deemed inefficient. So now it is an email chain with 7 people, with attached PPTs, project plans, costing evaluations..... madness.

logicisall · 19/10/2026 17:15

I see warrior Kegsbreath's been at the booze again.

No 10 says US defence secretary Pete Hegseth 'wrong' to say most non-US Nato soldiers in Afghanistan didn't fight
Downing Street has delivered a rare public reprimand to a member of Donald Trump’s administration, saying Pete Hegseth, the US defence secretary, was “wrong” to suggest that most non-American Nato soldiers in Afghanistan did not do any fighting.
Hegseth made the comment in a speech at the University of Tennessee, where he recalled serving in Afghanistan himself. He said:
I was a captain in Afghanistan and we would go to the headquarters in Kabul and there would be 50 flags at the headquarters. It was a beautiful thing to see, 50 different countries contributing to the Nato alliance and the Isaf [International Security Assistance Force] mission there.
Except there were maybe five that contributed. It was actually closer to one or two that by the end were actually involved in kinetic operations. In fact the patch Isaf, we joked it meant ‘I Saw Americans Fighting’.
Asked about Hegseth’s comment at the Downing Street lobby briefing, the PM’s spokesperson said Hegseth was “wrong” in what he said about the Nato operation in Afghanistan.

The spokesperson explained:
The facts speak for themselves when it comes to the UK’s and Nato’s contribution to Afghanistan. Thousands of British and Allied families made huge sacrifices to play their significant part in that war and uphold our values, and more than 450 British personnel never returned.
Their sacrifice and that of other Nato forces was made in the service of collective security and in response to an attack on our ally. We are incredibly proud of our armed forces and their service and sacrifice will never be forgotten, and it is wrong to diminish their role.
While the UK government disagrees with much of what Donald Trump and his team say and do, there is normally a reluctance to criticise them in public. However, this does not seem to apply when the reputation of British servicemen and women has been impugned. Keir Starmer tried hard to maintain a good personal relationship with the US president, but when Trump made a similar claim about Nato allies avoiding frontline fighting in Afghanistan, Starmer condemned what he said as “insulting and frankly appalling”.
The Guardian.

Clash Report (@clashreport) on X

Hegseth on Afghanistan: I was a captain in Afghanistan, and we would go to the headquarters in Kabul, and there would be 50 flags at the headquarters. It was a beautiful thing to see 50 different countries contributing to the NATO alliance and the IS...

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2111554532878799166

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/10/2026 17:26

My daughter was a captain in Afghan too, and would think shame to criticise in public any soldier of whatever nation who was there. Kegsbreath is simply a very low fellow indeed.

I understand that he wasn't involved at the front line in Afghanistan in any case; not at Bastion, but a training officer at the Counter Insurgency Training Office in Kabul. So maybe it was at him that the joke "I Saw Americans Fighting" was actually being aimed, and he just didn't realise it.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2026 18:24

Well I enjoyed this

E2A: the dig at SNL:US and Shane Gillis in "Weekend Update" did prompt a snort ...

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/tKS44e4pnRw

RedTagAlan · 20/10/2026 03:37

On the " So God gave us Trump" video.

I saw this story-

Priest killed by falling crucifix during live streamed Mass | CNN

I suppose there is a link. Along the lines of if God gave us Trump, why is everything Trump touches turning to shit. And as we are now getting close to the mid-terms, and we see the Republicans leaning more into religion, and the Dems too, with Schumer saying '"Trump is making a deal with the devil to save his faltering political fortunes.", I can't but help wishing that the US would just stop with all this God stuff.

It's like when a Tornado destroys a US town. The headline is often " Bible survives with just minor damage after tornado destroys town: It's a miracle"

I just feel that if the US political class dropped the God stuff, and the people held the politicians to account, rather than attribute everything to a God, then thing would maybe start to become sane ?

And yes, I include the dems. Because I am reminded of this 2016 story.

Leaked Democratic email signals potential bid to smear Sanders as atheist | The Times of Israel

Oh, and this also ties in with the El Sayed stuff above. How to smear someone in US politics ? Make it about a God.

Madness.

Priest killed by falling crucifix during live streamed Mass | CNN

A priest has been killed by a falling crucifix at a church in Ecuador as he performed a mass that was being live streamed online.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/19/americas/ecuador-priest-death-crucifix-scli-intl

CaveMum · 20/10/2026 06:45

Today’s HC-R

October 19, 2026 (Monday)

I am just through the door from several days’ travel and am wiped out, so this will not be a real letter.

Instead, just two observations.

First: it was exactly ten years ago tonight that then–Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton told the American people that Russian president Vladimir Putin hoped to have a “puppet” in the White House, and that Donald Trump was that puppet.

A scowling Trump responded: “No puppet. No puppet.”

Clinton continued: “It’s pretty clear.

Trump interjected: “You’re the puppet.”

Clinton continued: “It’s pretty clear you won’t admit…”

Trump interjected: “No, you’re the puppet.”

Clinton: “...that the Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against the United States of America, the you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race.”

Trump shook his head disparagingly.

Ten years later, Trump is openly embracing Putin and is working to destroy the strongest and most successful alliance in human history to cement that partnership, apparently with an eye to enriching himself.

And so, the events of the present change the way we see the past. Had Trump strongly supported Ukraine as Congress has demanded, and stood firm against Russia, a country that is, after all, a minor economic player whose military is flailing at its attempt to absorb its neighbor, we would rightly dismiss Clinton’s warning as campaign hyperbole. As it is, though, Trump’s tie to Putin—the story he has always tried to bury by calling it the “Russia, Russia, Russia hoax”—seems likely to emerge as the central story of the Trump years.

As Clinton wrote today: “In just the last few days: Trump made a deal for the U.S. to buy Russian diesel, an economic lifeline for Putin; he and Elon Musk blamed each other for an order that slowed down Starlink satellite connectivity over Ukraine, hampering the country's defenses during a devastating Russian attack; and Trump waived sanctions on Russia that Congress, led by his late friend Lindsey Graham, had pushed for. Now, Putin has proposed a summit with Trump and Xi to decide Ukraine’s fate for them, bulldoze a century of international cooperation, and frame Russia as an equal to the U.S. and China.

“We’ll see if Putin’s puppet continues to dance on his strings.”

Second, as no one paying even a modicum of attention can have missed, Trump is so unpopular that support for Republicans has fallen into historically low numbers. The gutting of Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), tariffs that have destroyed markets for agricultural products and increased prices, the war on Iran that has sent prices of gasoline and especially diesel soaring and thus increased the cost of everything that travels by train or truck, the blatant corruption that is lining the pockets of Trump and his cronies while ordinary Americans can’t make ends meet, and now Trump’s open embrace of Russian president Vladimir Putin—all wildly unpopular positions—mean that the districts that were firmly Republican by double digits just two years ago are now up for grabs.

That shift has revealed something interesting. Republicans running for office are refusing to hold town halls or to engage in debates with Democratic challengers. When they do show up, they tend to show how unserious they are about filling elected office, as Republican Dan Sullivan of Alaska illustrated when he asked the moderators at a debate with Democrat Mary Peltola if she had been given the questions beforehand because she seemed to be reading from notes while he didn't know how to answer the questions. As the moderators quashed his allegation, Peltola noted: “I’m prepared!”

In the past, Republicans in safe Republican districts did not have to appeal to constituents or campaign, apparently because the letter “R” was enough to get voters to make a mark next to their name. In this new environment in which constituents are furious with Republican policies, Republicans hoping to be elected continue to keep their heads down, apparently hoping that they can be elected, or reelected, if they simply keep their mouths shut.

Their invisibility raises the question of why these people, who evidently don’t care about representing their constituents, would want to hold national office. Perhaps they want to hobble the federal government to enable wealthy businessmen to gain even more control over the country. Perhaps they want to enable the rise of a theocracy. Perhaps they are hoping to make money off their offices. Perhaps they simply want the prestige of a federal office.

But the extreme gerrymandering of states at the hands of Republican lawmakers that made their candidates shoo-ins in the past also means those Republican candidates are weak. New scrutiny of those candidates as Democrats challenge them is revealing just how weak they are.

In Texas, for example, Republicans are running Trump’s hand-picked candidate for the U.S. Senate, state attorney general Ken Paxton, a stunningly corrupt man who has recently been revealed to have spent New Year’s Eve 2024 partying in Dubai with a mistress and two men who are fugitives from U.S. law. In Kansas the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate is incumbent senator Roger Marshall, a man who has been revealed as having sued more than 700 of his obstetrical patients for unpaid bills, resulting in 81 arrests.

In North Carolina, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Michael Whatley has little to recommend him other than Trump’s endorsement; the same could be said of the Republican candidate for Senate from South Carolina, Darline Graham, whose main qualification is that she is former South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham’s sister. The story is the same across the country as Republicans field subpar candidates. Even in Maine, where Senator Susan Collins should have been a strong candidate for the party, stories of apparent corruption are undermining her candidacy.

As Paul Waldman noted in Public Notice on October 15, these stories and others are “just the Senate candidates. Up and down the ballot, the [Republican Party] has nominated crackpots and nitwits, none more colorful than Victor Marx, their nominee for governor in Colorado. Marx refuses to say how many people he has killed (though he says his stepfather forced him to commit his first murder at age 7), hunts demons, claims he can call in US airstrikes, and boasts of being a seventh-degree black belt in a martial art he invented. Normal stuff!”

In contrast to the Republicans hoping to coast to election, the Democrats running for office are holding town halls, listening to the people of their districts, needling their opponents who refuse to debate, and using the word “mission.”

The contrast between the two is a snapshot of a dying party that is no longer bothering to compete, and a rising party whose candidates are eager for the job and willing to work for it. It reminds me of the 1850s, when the Democrats, who were so accustomed to holding office that they assumed they were entitled to their posts, met the rising Republicans, whom Democrats considered too uncouth to hold office, but who ended up dominating the political system for the next seventy years.

BruceAndNosh · 20/10/2026 08:31

Nothing sums up Trump more than the fact that 25 Trump dollars costs $61.

DuncinToffee · 20/10/2026 08:46

It doesn't look like Alberta will be joining the US any time soon

DuncinToffee · 20/10/2026 08:47

Trump Tries to Ban Jack Smith Testimony as BBC Lawsuit Implodes

The BBC has subpoenaed Jack Smith as part of Trump’s $10 billion defamation lawsuit against the media company.

https://newrepublic.com/post/216805/trump-jack-smith-testimony-bbc-defamation-lawsuit-implodes

Spandauer · 20/10/2026 09:01

DuncinToffee · 20/10/2026 08:47

Trump Tries to Ban Jack Smith Testimony as BBC Lawsuit Implodes

The BBC has subpoenaed Jack Smith as part of Trump’s $10 billion defamation lawsuit against the media company.

https://newrepublic.com/post/216805/trump-jack-smith-testimony-bbc-defamation-lawsuit-implodes

Now that's cheered me up a bit.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/10/2026 13:24

I'd probably find that more cheering if it were not that I (being British) am paying for some of the cost of Trump's vexatious litigation against the BBC.

walllaw · 20/10/2026 15:14

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/10/2026 13:24

I'd probably find that more cheering if it were not that I (being British) am paying for some of the cost of Trump's vexatious litigation against the BBC.

As a taxpayer in both countries, I will say, this is one of the things I'm happiest about underwriting 😂

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/10/2026 16:32

Well, yes, but there are so many other better things to spend money on than Trump's inflated sense of self-importance..

placemats · 20/10/2026 16:34

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/10/2026 16:32

Well, yes, but there are so many other better things to spend money on than Trump's inflated sense of self-importance..

Which seems to reside in his derriere.

walllaw · 20/10/2026 16:37

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/10/2026 16:32

Well, yes, but there are so many other better things to spend money on than Trump's inflated sense of self-importance..

True, but seeing him squirm under the self-own of having brought about Jack Smith actually testifying would be so delightful I'd be tempted to set up a gofundme to make it happen.

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