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Spandauer · 29/09/2026 19:01

Mid-terms looming, approval falling, prices rising, wars ongoing - Ping Ping and Fu Shuang must be wondering what heinous crime they committed to be banished chosen as envoys of friendship between China and USA. 🐼🐼

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Llttledrummergirl · 15/10/2026 14:36

logicisall · 15/10/2026 10:41

An hour after announcing his resignation, US Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Randy George reportedly said: "Donald Trump needs to be hospitalized immediately; I question his mental stability. He is leading the US military toward disaster."

https://x.com/GPC_Globall/status/2110407706301632649?s=20

Whats concerning is that he has only just realised this.

I stand corrected if this is a hoax. Although it could be said that it's even more worrying that he hasn't spoken out.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 15/10/2026 14:40

@Llttledrummergirl it's a hoax. See @walllaw above 14.15.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 15/10/2026 14:42

@Llttledrummergirl sorry, seen your edit now.
This is what happens when people spread mis and disinformation. Confusion. At best.

Interested in this thread?

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logicisall · 15/10/2026 14:56

walllaw · 15/10/2026 14:15

This is a hoax. Just a friendly reminder to double check anything that seems not credible.

*Although I realise with the current state of the world, credible is doing some heavy lifting

Edited

Thank you! And you are right to remind me to check.

logicisall · 15/10/2026 15:08

Anyone with a sub to the WP? I note that Trump himself hasn't donate a single cent.

Secret documents reveal donors behind $330 million for Trump’s ballroom
The records offer a panoramic view of a fundraising campaign that is extraordinary for its size and opacity.
“Tech giants Nvidia and Apple each committed $25 million, the top contribution amount, the list shows. The Adelson family, one of the GOP’s largest donor dynasties, committed that sum as well, as did billionaire Charles Ergen, co-founder and chairman of telecommunications company Dish Network.
Absent from the list is Trump himself, who has said that he is helping to pay for the project. “It’s being paid for a hundred percent by me and some friends of mine,” he said last year, days after demolition began on the old East Wing.
The White House publicly identified 37 people, companies and foundations as donors last October, without revealing the amount of their individual gifts.”

“Independent experts and scholars have expressed alarm at the potential the arrangement has for influence buying and coerced giving.
Some donors on the list obtained by The Post cut large checks, while others created installment plans that are still being paid off, the additional records show. The list does not include in-kind contributions.
The Post’s reporting does not establish a connection between the donation commitments and favorable actions by the Trump administration. But the documents show that the vast majority of the funds raised came from companies and wealthy individuals with interests before the federal government.
Companies or executives of firms that have had contracts with the federal government during Trump’s second term accounted for about half of the total, The Post found.”

“After reviewing the list obtained by The Post, White House spokesman Davis Ingle declined to discuss individual donations but described the ballroom donors as “a wide array of great American companies and generous individuals, all of whom are contributing to make the People’s House better for generations to come.”
“The same critics who are alleging fake conflicts of interests, would also complain if American taxpayers were footing the bill for these long-overdue renovations,” he said. He added that the administration will “relentlessly pursue those responsible for this cowardly leak while continuing to protect all those who give.”
The Post is publishing the names of the 57 donors listed as having committed to giving $100,000 or more. The additional records detailing donors’ preferences show at least nine wanted to remain anonymous.”

“CEO Jensen Huang told reporters at the time that the company was contributing to Trump’s ballroom “in a small way” but did not provide a dollar amount. Documents show Nvidia requested that its $25 million donation be kept anonymous.
“As an American company, our support for the United States is paramount, and independent of any business interests,” Nvidia spokesperson John Rizzo said in response to questions from The Post. “We were proud to be able to make a donation to a nonpartisan trust that serves all Americans and have said so publicly since the donation was made.”
Major GOP donor Joseph Popolo Jr., Trump’s ambassador to the Netherlands, and his wife contributed $1 million from their family fund to support the ballroom project in late 2025, the records show. Their donation — made two months after Popolo’s confirmation — has not been previously reported.”

“Trump Cabinet member Kelly Loeffler of the Small Business Administration and her husband Jeff Sprecher, former chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, promised $5 million for the project, the list shows. Brandon Lutnick, chairman of investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald and the son of Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, donated stock worth more than $2.5 million, the records show.
Popolo, Loeffler, Sprecher and the Lutnicks did not respond to requests for comment.”

More than three-quarters of the money for the ballroom came in commitments of $5 million or more. Among the top donors are some of America’s blue chip companies, including Amazon, Caterpillar, Comcast, Microsoft and T-Mobile. (Amazon Executive Chairman Jeff Bezos owns The Post.)

“Cryptocurrency companies, now under loosened regulations from the Trump administration, and their investors promised more than $18 million. The largest portion came from Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss, co-founders of the Gemini crypto exchange, who together donated bitcoin valued at $5,050,018, the records show.
The Winklevoss brothers did not respond to requests for comment.”

“The total fundraising amount falls short of the $400 million Trump has said he intends to raise for the work. The cost of building the new East Wing, which includes the ballroom, office space and an underground military facility, was projected in March to have increased to $600 million, an estimate previously reported by The Post. The White House has used taxpayer dollars to cover some of the construction cost, records show.
The ballroom donations are routed through the Trust for the National Mall, a D.C.-based nonprofit whose mission is to restore and preserve the National Mall and the White House grounds. Nonprofits are not generally required to disclose their donors.
Prospective donors were sent a “pledge agreement form,” a copy of which was obtained by The Post, for giving toward the “Donald J. Trump Ballroom.” The form lists Meredith O’Rourke, the top fundraiser for Trump’s 2024 campaign, as the main contact.
O’Rourke referred questions to the White House.
A 12-page agreement between the government and the Trust requires that the Trust “maintain the anonymity of Project donors to the extent provided by law and not publicly recognize any such donor unless explicitly authorized in writing” by staff ”

Democratic lawmakers have denounced the fundraising for the ballroom as secretive and potentially transactional. They have demanded that the administration and the Trust provide details about the donors and circumstances of the gifts. Those demands have been rebuffed.

Excerpt From
“WP Exclusive | Secret documents reveal donors behind $330 million for Trump’s ballroom”
Jonathan O'Connell, Sarah Blaskey, Aaron Schaffer
The Washington Post
https://apple.news/AblrTEVS5ROWp089jXUp2oQ
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logicisall · 15/10/2026 15:10

It was an extract from the Washington Post about secrecy and the ballroom donors...which included a list that had crapto bros.

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2026 15:33

Reports that they have cancelled the live streaming of the execution.

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2026 15:35

Confirmed by the 🍊

Trump: "I think streaming the execution might have been a strong deterrent for the World to witness how America deals with Terrorists & SCUM like Hasan but, many very good & well meaning people would rather not watch...He will die, as scheduled, by firing squad, but this event will not be streamed."

Efacsen · 15/10/2026 15:37

That's really good news @DuncinToffee

BruceAndNosh · 15/10/2026 16:01

Trump has finally been convinced that a public execution will make him look bad. That's all he cares about

AcrossthePond55 · 15/10/2026 16:02

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2026 15:33

Reports that they have cancelled the live streaming of the execution.

Yes, it's on CNN (TV) now, lead story.

RedTagAlan · 15/10/2026 16:04

Efacsen · 15/10/2026 15:37

That's really good news @DuncinToffee

GOOD NEWS ?

Actually, probably his plan. Come out with something really stupid, get a stooge to suggest it, then Trump to the rescue.

SerendipityJane · 15/10/2026 16:04

BruceAndNosh · 15/10/2026 16:01

Trump has finally been convinced that a public execution will make him look bad. That's all he cares about

...and he gets to blame it on the snowflakes too.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/10/2026 16:07

I have done my Patriotic Duty! 🥳 🇺🇸👏🏼

Panda-monium - Trump Thread #170
SerendipityJane · 15/10/2026 16:10

AcrossthePond55 · 15/10/2026 16:07

I have done my Patriotic Duty! 🥳 🇺🇸👏🏼

Edited

And how can you check ?

I have no idea how you can check in the UK either. There is a special court that can order the unsealing of ballots, but I have no idea how that works. All I know is that a vote in the UK is worthless.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/10/2026 16:20

SerendipityJane · 15/10/2026 16:10

And how can you check ?

I have no idea how you can check in the UK either. There is a special court that can order the unsealing of ballots, but I have no idea how that works. All I know is that a vote in the UK is worthless.

There is a ballot tracking website run by the St of Calif Secretary of State's office. You sign up and it tracks your vote from 'your ballot has been mailed to you' through 'your ballot has been counted'. It also tells you if your ballot has been rejected for some reason w/contact info to 'fix it'. Happened to my DS one year, a quick phone call and a trip to the county elections office took care of it. The computer felt the signatures on voter's reg & his ballot envelope 'didn't match up'.

All but 3 states & DC have ballot tracking. WY, MO, IL are the 3 states.

The tracking is done via coding on the return envelope. There is no ID coding on the ballot itself.

SerendipityJane · 15/10/2026 16:24

AcrossthePond55 · 15/10/2026 16:20

There is a ballot tracking website run by the St of Calif Secretary of State's office. You sign up and it tracks your vote from 'your ballot has been mailed to you' through 'your ballot has been counted'. It also tells you if your ballot has been rejected for some reason w/contact info to 'fix it'. Happened to my DS one year, a quick phone call and a trip to the county elections office took care of it. The computer felt the signatures on voter's reg & his ballot envelope 'didn't match up'.

All but 3 states & DC have ballot tracking. WY, MO, IL are the 3 states.

The tracking is done via coding on the return envelope. There is no ID coding on the ballot itself.

Fascinating and thanks.

Not sure if the UK needs - or could manage - something like that. Especially over something that has no value, like a vote.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/10/2026 16:37

Votes were what caused the departure from the EU. Votes are what get us Conservative, Labour or Coalition governments; voting against them may save us from Reform and whatever the other gang is. In America, votes are what alter the composition of the senate and congress, and what may make a difference between the destruction of the country and the world, or their survival.

Step by step the longest march
Can be won, can be won
Many stones can form an arch
Singly none, singly none
And together what we will
Can be accomplished still
Many drops can turn a mill
Singly none, singly none

Now, you may think, like an anarchist friend of mine, that it's a mistake to vote because "it only encourages them", but your vote does not have no value. In worst case, you can deliberately spoil it; those get counted too, and noted.

Discouraging people from using the franchise that was so hard-won does nobody any favours. Encouraging them to vote in less wanky ways may be a very good thing.

SerendipityJane · 15/10/2026 16:55

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/10/2026 16:37

Votes were what caused the departure from the EU. Votes are what get us Conservative, Labour or Coalition governments; voting against them may save us from Reform and whatever the other gang is. In America, votes are what alter the composition of the senate and congress, and what may make a difference between the destruction of the country and the world, or their survival.

Step by step the longest march
Can be won, can be won
Many stones can form an arch
Singly none, singly none
And together what we will
Can be accomplished still
Many drops can turn a mill
Singly none, singly none

Now, you may think, like an anarchist friend of mine, that it's a mistake to vote because "it only encourages them", but your vote does not have no value. In worst case, you can deliberately spoil it; those get counted too, and noted.

Discouraging people from using the franchise that was so hard-won does nobody any favours. Encouraging them to vote in less wanky ways may be a very good thing.

I am not saying don't use your vote, nor that votes don't matter.

What I am saying, is in the UK, if you - or a million - are unlawfully denied a vote, the value is £0.

Just ask the EU citizens who were illegally excluded from voting in the 2019 EU elections.

Maybe Trump saw that and got the idea to lose 1,000,000 votes in the US with no comeback.

CaveMum · 15/10/2026 16:57

Saw this on The Book of Face. It’s satire, but somehow not.

This is satire…but, like all great satire, it exposes the truth. I didn’t know who wrote it but I know now. 👏 Peter Girnus

“I am a member of the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

There are five of us. Five people, appointed by a parliament most of the planet could not find on a map, who decide, once a year, which human being the world has agreed to call good.

I know. I know. I think about it on the tram.

We meet in a building on Henrik Ibsens gate, a street named after a man who wrote almost exclusively about people discovering they are frauds, which nobody on the committee finds funny except me. There is a room with a long table and the portraits of the dead laureates looking down, Mandela, the Dalai Lama, a great many earnest men in spectacles, and one portrait we do not discuss, which is Kissinger, 1973, awarded while the bombs were still falling, after which two of our predecessors resigned and the satirist Tom Lehrer said political satire was now obsolete. We keep him on the wall. A reminder. Every family has the uncle.

It is October in Oslo, which means the sun gives up around four in the afternoon like a civil servant, and it rains the particular Norwegian rain that isn’t quite falling, just hanging there, judging you. I arrive with wet shoes. I always arrive with wet shoes. There is coffee, because this is Norway and there is always coffee, we drink more of it per person than almost anyone alive, and someone’s wife has sent kanelboller, the cinnamon buns, and we sit, five Norwegians, damp, caffeinated, sugared, and we decide the moral standing of the entire species.

Let me tell you how it actually works, because the world imagines a cathedral and it is, I promise you, a book club with a mandate.

287 nominations this year. 208 people, 79 organizations. Anyone can nominate, that’s the secret nobody understands: a professor, a parliamentarian, a former laureate, so the “nominee” list is meaningless, it’s a suggestion box, and every autumn some congressman nominates his own golden retriever and the press writes “SHORTLISTED.” Nobody is shortlisted. There is no short list the public ever sees. There is us, and the coffee, and the rain, and the portraits, and a Norwegian stubbornness that is older than the prize itself.

We read reports. The institute’s advisers write them, thick dull documents, and we argue. Our chairman told the BBC once that in the final meeting “there is a high temperature.” High temperature, for a Norwegian, means someone slightly raised an eyebrow and then apologized for it. We don’t do high temperature. We do a long silence, and then Kristin says “well,” and everyone knows exactly what “well” meant, and it’s settled. That’s our shouting. “Well.” You’d have to be raised here to hear the violence in it.

Now. This year. I will not say the name, because we never say the name, but you know the name.

A certain head of state wanted this prize the way a child wants a thing in a shop window, which is to say loudly, and in public, and with the full belief that wanting it was itself the argument. He said he deserved it. He said he’d ended eight wars, a number that grew most times he said it, like a fish. He had other heads of state phone us. Israel’s prime minister posted it on the internet, “Give him the Nobel.” The leaders of Cambodia and Pakistan announced they’d nominated him, as though announcing it were part of it, as though we tally mentions. A man flew around the globe collecting endorsements for a Norwegian committee the way you’d collect signatures for a petition to the council about a noisy dog.

And here, uff da, is the detail I treasure, the one that makes me smile into my coffee. The nomination deadline is the 31st of January. He took office on the 20th. So for all the phone calls, all the posts, all the gilded lobbying, the only nominations that could possibly count for this year’s prize were filed in the first eleven days of his term, before he had, by his own arithmetic, ended a single one of the eight wars. He campaigned all year for a prize whose window had shut while he was still hanging up his coat. We didn’t have to reject him. The calendar did. We just watched. Norwegians are very good at watching. We have long winters.

People think we sit there weighing his deeds. We don’t. That’s the thing I can’t make the world understand. We’re not grading his homework. We don’t owe anyone the prize for a ceasefire, however real, however loud the announcement. “He made peace” is not a sentence that ends in a medal, the way he believes it does, the way he believes every good thing ends in his name on it. The will of a dead Swede says the prize goes to whoever did the most for fraternity between nations. A dead Swede, I should add, who made his entire fortune inventing dynamite and selling arms, and spent his last years horrified at his own obituary, which called him a merchant of death, and so bought his way to immortality as a man of peace. The whole prize is one guilty arms dealer’s attempt to launder his name. We are, all of us, administering a dead man’s public relations. I find this clarifying. It keeps me humble. It should keep everyone humble, and it keeps, by my count, no one humble at all.

So who did we give it to?

An eighty-five-year-old woman. A judge. Born in Durban, under apartheid, granddaughter of a Tamil man who came to South Africa as indentured labor, a bus driver’s daughter from the poor Indian quarter, who became the first non-white woman to run a law practice in her province, who defended Mandela’s people when defending them was dangerous, who sat on the Rwanda tribunal and the court at the Hague, and who, at eighty-five, is right now a judge weighing whether a genocide is a genocide. When we told the world, our chairman said the rule of law “underpins the system we have set up to ensure peace,” and that “peace requires justice.” She wasn’t even in Oslo. She was in Nuremberg. In courtroom 600. The actual room where they tried the Nazis. You cannot stage that. God staged that, and God, it turns out, is a better satirist than any of us.

She did not phone us. She did not post. No prime minister demanded it for her on the internet. She had, as far as our deliberations are concerned, the one qualification the loud man could never manufacture, which is that she wanted the work and not the medal. The medal finds those people. It flees the ones who chase it. This is not a rule we wrote. It’s just the only pattern the hundred-odd years of our mistakes has ever shown.

The reaction from across the ocean was immediate. His spokesman posted that we “place politics over peace.” Ja. Perhaps. We’re five damp pensioners in a rainy city; of course it’s political, it was always political, it was political when we gave it to a sitting American president nine months into his first term for the promise of things he had not yet done, and we have been quietly embarrassed about that one for fifteen years, so believe me, we had a particular reason this year to prefer a woman with fifty years of verdicts behind her over a man with eight wars in front of him and a deadline already behind him.

Here is what he will never understand, the thing I’d tell him on the tram if he ever took one. We are the one prize he cannot buy, cannot post his way to, cannot have a friendly dictator phone in for him. Not because we’re incorruptible, nei, we’re as vain and wrong and human as the portraits on our wall. But because the entire point of the thing, the only power a small cold country’s book club has ever held, is that it goes to the person not performing the wanting. The moment you demand it, you’ve proven you don’t understand what it’s for, and proving that is itself the disqualification. He ran the most expensive campaign in the history of the prize and the campaign was the reason. He was never losing to Navi Pillay. He was losing to the concept.

It’s dark now. Four o’clock dark. The buns are gone. Kristin said “well” an hour ago and we all went home. I’m on the tram with my wet shoes, and somewhere across the water a very powerful man is explaining to a camera that the prize is rigged, that we’re corrupt, that he’ll win it next year, and he genuinely might, we’re only five idiots and we’ve been wrong before, Kissinger is still on the wall.

But not this year. This year an old woman in Nuremberg, in the room where the law once stared down the exact kind of man who thinks wanting a thing loudly enough should make it his, got a phone call she didn’t ask for.

That’s the job. We don’t reward the man who ends the war and announces it.

We reward the woman who spent fifty years deciding what a war was.

He’ll never see the difference. That’s rather the whole point of him.

Takk for i dag. I have to change trams.”

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/10/2026 17:55

I particularly liked

"Our chairman told the BBC once that in the final meeting “there is a high temperature.” High temperature, for a Norwegian, means someone slightly raised an eyebrow and then apologized for it. We don’t do high temperature. We do a long silence, and then Kristin says “well,” and everyone knows exactly what “well” meant, and it’s settled. That’s our shouting. “Well.” You’d have to be raised here to hear the violence in it."

placemats · 15/10/2026 17:58

Anyone else finding that posting is difficult today?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/10/2026 18:01

I can post but cannot "react" or place a bookmark. The box/line below posts just has a little spinning thingy in it and no text.

Or at least, if this goes up I can still post!

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 15/10/2026 18:02

@placemats something's not right. Pages are not loading properly and I don't think it's my phone or Internet connection or whatever.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 15/10/2026 18:03

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime same spinning thingy!

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