Is changing a dirty nappy in a café still considered unacceptable?

[Anon4688554]

I was having lunch killing time in an M&S cafe when a new mum with a 6mth old (baby was weaning on a fruit pouch) went to change her baby’s dirty nappy in the pram. I’m not blaming the baby for one minute as babies poo at the most inconvenient times! I understand that she was baffled on her own, messy baby nneeded outfit changing and had to redress the baby and then pack all her stuff away. The poor woman most likely sleep deprived and could have had PND so lots of reasons why she was stressed out as being out with a baby is stressful enough.

Is it the norm to change dirty nappies in front of others these days ? Or is this still lack of etiquette ? Personally I think it was unacceptable especially as the toilets are pretty much attached to this M&S cafe abd saw it was rather inconsiderate.

Thats what the loos are for. There’s often a baby-change facility, but if not, you do it behind the closed door.

They actually went to find the staff and said they were going to complain about me and get me thrown out. No idea what was said but they came back, packed up their stuff and left. The manager came over and we had a nice chat about how gross they were.

I think if I'd been in a poo nappy situation and the cafe toilets weren't available for whatever reason I'd at least take them outside of the cafe to change them. That's still gross and unpleasant but it's better than doing so around people that are eating.

I honestly can’t see what’s unhygienic about dogs that stay on the floor - which countless people’s feet have walked over.

It is not etiquette in a cafe to do that.

However, twice in a week I was out eating lunch with my son and took him to the toilet, I came back and my food that I was midway through eating had been cleared from the table. If you are a hungry and tired mum this can be a worry, so you would want to stay where you are.
It has really put me off going to cafes.

If you wanted to intervene, being helpful and offering to hold her table whilst she went to sort the child out may have been well received rather than passing judgement.

That's different, and anyone who has been in a similar position would understand completely, I am sure.

If she were that overwhelmed she wouldn’t have made it to an M&S cafe.
We’ve all been overwhelmed at some stage for whatever reason but it doesn’t excuse exposing diners to poo no matter how ‘precious and alert’ the infant is.

The self-entitlement of some people is staggering.
I don't care if your baby is gorgeous, if you are stressed, if you don't want to use the appropriate place to change your baby, it's not all about YOU.
Other people's feelings and wellbeing are just as important as yours are.