Anyone concerned about Meta Smart Glasses? Did you know there is an app that scans for them?

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I knew already but to be honest was too lazy to look into it. I came across this article today…(edited to add it’s not a Facebook link and it just takes you to an lbc interview on Google)

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and downloaded the app that he made. Here is a screenshot of it in the App Store…(wait for it to be approved obviously)….

and there seems to be more than one, so the one done by the man interviewed is the one with the yellow canary.

I’m not leaving the house this weekend though so won’t be able to see if it picks anything up.

Are you all much more on the ball than I am? Is this very old news? Anyway, I’m glad I read it today.

Your right to privacy in public?

Me and you living our lives aren’t content for someone else’s social media. No one is putting shop cctv up on TikTok as their main income stream. I don’t post my dc on socials because I respect their privacy and safety but apparently it’s fine for some stranger to film them covertly and share the footage with the whole world because it’s the same as Jeff who has got a dashcam picking them up when they cross the road. Ffs. And that’s before we get to perverts and antagonists engineering situations for their own benefit.

I’m sure there is a solution so people with impairments can benefit from this tech without the rest of the world risking going viral for picking their nose or becoming the victims of crime. Meta raybans are not that solution

I unfollowed this thread because some of the comments were just the same arguing for the sake of it but I’ll answer this.

My (everyone’s) right to privacy when choosing sanitary towels,
when looking at condoms,
when out with children who have legal wranglings with family members,
when in witness protection,
when crying in a shop because my husband died,
when escaping domestic abuse,
when on my period and there is a bit of blood on my skirt,
when doing any number of things that I don’t want to end up on social media,
when minding my own business.

Yes I have heard of CCTV and dash cams and cameras and mobile phones. These images are not routinely put up on the internet to earn money for whoever put it there, who deliberately engage people in conversation in order to have ‘content’.

To have to spell this out on a woman centric site is flabbergasting. Ever looked at the Legal board? The Relationships board?

And women defending and defending and defending?

Crack on then, until it happens to you.

They are linked to the phone so can film/take pics just by command. Look like regular glasses but obviously could have sinister uses

there IS a light ...

Because I have them - and I only use them for videoing when I am playing sport. The rest of the time I am listening to audio books (whilst being able to hear traffic etc), asking questions about landmarks that I am visiting, doing live translations when I am in different countries.

That's fair enough. So as @canklesmctacotitssuggests if a prescription bases system comes in, you'd have to do without. A licence based system then where you apply for them and state your purpose. Yes of course people can still talk bull and get around it but at least if nothing else they won't be handed out to registered sex offenders.

Why should VI people be further "othered"?!
my daughter is registered blind and often goes without her cane (which would help her) because she's aware that it makes her more of a target...
If someone wants to use this technology for nefarious purposes they are going to do so, branding won't stop that but it will single out vulnerable people who are trying to make the best of their situation and be as independent as possible.
Not everyone is a bad person or has bad intentions, not everyone who drives a car will randomly drive into a crowd, please think of the people that this technology will help to live a more normal life and not make it harder for them to access it?

FWIW, Dashcam vids have been a staple on Youtube for years, and yes, they are monetised, so people very much are posting dashcam footage on Social Media and making money out of it.

You do not have a right to privacy in any of those situations. You are in public and anyone can stand and watch you do it. If you really need privacy buying sanitary towels and condoms, buy them online.

I may sound really ignorant here but can someone explain what the problem
with them is?

do they do anything that your phone or other camera couldn’t do?

But your daughter is also vulnerable to being secretly filmed? Probably more so because she is sight impaired so it would be possible for someone to openly walk behind her (or in front) with their phone out etc. But surely you can imagine how creepy and violating it would feel if someone did post creepshots of her walking in public on the internet while completely unaware they qwrw doing so and with no one else stepping in because it was so well hidden. This has happened to women and teenage girls and is sometimes accompanied by very unpleasant, sexually violent comments and other users trying to dox the person filmed and reveal personal information about them. I don't think her being blind makes her any less vulnerable to this, if anything it makes her more so for several reasons.

Of course creepy people can film without glasses. But the glasses make it much easier to film surreptitiously including filming numbers etc. You would hope, for instance, that if someone was smirking and filming a sight impaired young woman up close with their phone while pretending to chat them up/ask them questions would get a response from other people. But if it's done with glasses no-one can intervene. It makes life easier for creeps.

I don't think it needs to be a big flashing sign about being sight impaired. But as I said, the glasses have a light that is meant to show when recording. I don't know why your daughter would need to record but if she did surely it isn't a huge stigma to have the light on? Or a small logo on the side. It wouldnt automatically mean sight impaired. Maybe it's being worn to do translations. But it is informing people its being used. And helps them to differentiate between the people being open about using the glasses and the creeps trying to secretly film. The same way a blue badge informs people the car is allowed to park in certain spots. It's not about "othering".

In Germany you do. Maybe the law needs to change to accommodate the fact that now photos of strangers can be posted on the internet etc. Whilst until recently the internet and phone cameras, secret cameras didn't exist so we enjoyed more privacy by default now it needs to be codified into law.

@Persephonia1966I understand your stance but my, and my daughter's, lived experience means that I stand by what I said.
Perverts will be perverts, the overwhelming majority of people who will use this technology are not going to be in an identified group who are perverts, they are going to be people living with sight loss who could benefit massively from this technology

Perverts are going to pervert regardless. I'm more concerned with the possibilities of things like hidden cameras that are easier to hide from view in places like public bathrooms.

I'm not ashamed when buying sanitary towels, which is just as well with three daughters and myself. Condoms - don't buy them but don't think anything when I see someone else doing so. I'm not ashamed of interactions with my kids when in public. People in witness protection and escaping domestic abuse must already have concerns about privacy with many existing ways they can already be filmed or photographed, so I don't see the difference. I've cried in public when a family member died. No shame in that. Why should I be ashamed because I'm a grieving person? Blood on my skirt? I aren't going to be ashamed of being a woman who bleeds.

I work in a profession where I don't necessarily want my photo around the place. It's really only been an issue in community groups when I have to decline to be in photos, which annoys the organisers, but too bad. I aren't any more worried about these glasses than I am about existing technology.

I think knowing that perverts are going to be perverts doesn't mean we need to make life any easier for them.
And people posting "funny" videos on TikTok of people who don't know they're being filmed aren't necessarily perverted just unkind.