Ds asking about sats dont want him upset.

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Ds just finished year 6 at the end of their leavers assembly. He spoke about the sats he told parents their had been some sort of error and parents would be able to collect tjem from the school in August on a certain day. He also said how fantastic they had done as a whole they got 90% which is one of the best the school has had.

Ds felt happy about that. But i didn't collect his results the reason being is because hes working at year 1 level and I didn't want him upset when he realised his score would have been very low. But hes asked me a few times about getting them. Maybe it wasn't the best idea not to get them. But i was trying to protect him.

I'm not sure if i should try and get them or not would I be able to even if I didn't go on the day? I think i probably can because it was after the children broke up from school and people could have already booked holidays etc

I don't think you are doing any favours by protecting him from this. Focus on hard work and progress made, aasuming he has really tried, and remind him of other strengths that you see and value in him. What is the plan for next term?

You need to get them , you can’t hide this it is not fair on him. He needs his results.

Does he not know he’s working at year 1 v 6?

Ah that's difficult.
I'm surprised he sat them at all if he is working at year 1 level. Surely they would have been inaccessible? Why wasn't he excluded from them?

Surely also he knows he's struggling, is he going on to mainstream or special school?

For DD2 we just said 'we were very proud', I'm not sure she ever found out she didn't get those magic 100s.

I think you should ask to get them when school re opens in September.

What is his plan for year 7? He must know he’s working on a different level from the work he’s doing?

I would get them and talk through his results, focusing on how well he did. I’m really surprised he even sat them if working at y1 level.

By hiding them from him, you’ll be subconsciously making him think they’re something to be ashamed of. Or that you’re embarrassed.

I would concentrate on being very proud of his hard work, but yes you need to collect his results.

Is he receiving support if he is so behind in his learning? And why on earth did his school put him forward for exams he was not ready for? I'm not a fan of testing in primary school and glad my DC weren't subjects to SATS!

I would concentrate on asking the school for appropriate support - will the results help pinpoint what areas he is particularly struggling with?

He's asked for them; stop being mean and go get them. He's going into year seven and deserves to know where he's working at your doing him no favours by hiding it. I say this as a child with a learning disability.

We gave our DS yr 6 SATs results after A levels. He worked incredibly hard for yr 6 SATs based on advice from school that proved wrong on SPAG and came out with a very low score. We framed it as they are about measuring school performance, as we didn't want him to be disheartened.

Progression isn't always linear, and he achieved ACC at A level

@Cantthinkofadifferentname How are sats purely about school performance? They measure how well dc are doing and no teacher can make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear! It’s just unfair to keep saying it’s all about schools and their failure to teach dc. Dc just have to accept it’s a snapshot at 11 and as dc change at secondary they find subjects they like.

im amazed dc here was doing the tests.

I’m really surprised that he wasn’t disapplied from KS 2 SATs if he’s working at Y1 level.
Does he have an EHCP and is he going to Mainstream Secondary?

I’ve never heard of results being delayed until August. There was a glitch with a marking provider this year but they were available before the end of term.
No point keeping things from him thought. Just need to focus on his strengths.

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He wouldn't have been able to answer a single question if he was working at year 1 level. He must know this?

I think its best to be honest with him, tell him they are mainly for the school, you're extremely proud of the effort hes put in, and move along.

But if he’s working at Yr 1 level in year 6 surely he has some kind of extra support, a support plan or EHCP and is likely going to a special school or school with ARP in September?

And if he isn’t doing any of things you NEED those result to be making an urgent appointment with the sendco at his new school about what support he needs.

By not addressing this you are risking his MH rather than protecting it. That’s not to say I don’t understand that you think you’re doing the right thing. But I’m speaking from a lot of experience here.

Some similar replies so will answer best i can. Ds just knows he needs extra help he doesn't know hes working at year 1 level. He has become a bit more awear in general he will call himself stupid and he can't do things the same as other's. I do tell him how fantastic he is. I tell Hes great at drawering knows lots about cars. But he says its not the same and gets upset and feels crap about himself. So i didn't want to show him something that will make him feel bad about himself.

With the sitting the SATS I don't know why really they just say do what you can.

Hes gong to a SEN school.

Yeah i can't remember exactly what was said. They would normally be in with the school reports.

Thats partly the issue I doubt he a answered any. I can't guarantee thats the case but its very likely

He has an EHCP and he's going to a SEN school in September.

I think it would be cruel to take him in that day, do something nice together instead

If he’s going to special school things will improve and SATs will fade into the past.

Well done for accessing specialist provision. A fresh start for both of you. His individual needs will be met and his self esteem should improve.

Several people have said he must know. He's doesn't know how far behinde he is. He just knows he needs extra help. Because he learns in a different way.

I would ask him why he wants the results. Is it because everyone at school was talking about them? Is it because he hopes he passed (and doesn't struggle as much as he fears he does)? Let him know you can get them but they don't matter anymore because noone will be interested in them at secondary school.

Talk to him about his next school and does he understand that this is a special school? Tell him he is really lucky to have got a place there because the facilities and the adult:student ratio are far better than at a bog standard comp and the curriculum is a lot more fun and creative. Let him know that not all schools are alike; there are some schools that you have to take exams to get into, and there are others, like his school, that only take those that don't get on with exams. Tell him you can get his SATS results if he wants them but you know his scores will be low because if he had done well, he wouldn't have got a place at the wonderful school he is going to start at next month. What I am trying to say is make a positive out of it.

A white lie could be 'after you sat the SATs they realised that you are going to a special school in September, so they decided not to mark them' as they are really only for kids going on to mainstream. (If he got NS)

Or just pick them up, see that he got 80+ (80 is the lowest possible) and tell him it is good considering his struggles and you are very proud?

But he sat the tests? He sat in the room and had the paper in front of him? Even a year 1 would know they hadn’t been able to answer or understand. I don’t get how this has come about, or why in earth he was made to sit them. Did you ask for him to be disapplied?

In this case I'd chat to him about how he feels the test went on the day, ask him if he could answer questions, talk to him about it, let him share his thoughts and fears openly. Tell him you are so proud of him for sitting them in the first place... and then arrange for something else good for him to do that day.
I don't think theres any need for him to know exactly how badly he did given that he'll be attending SEN next year.

If he is going to a sen school I wouldn't be worried about it. As long as he tried that's good enough. With a mainstream school it would only determine what set you will be in that's all.