Jason Arday dead

[ThisWiseRobin]

Just putting this out there, but just heared.A sad end to a whole sorry mess.

Yes, rather offensive take, what was the statistical analysis for such a take? IQ levels?

I read many years ago that Asians (mainly Chinese Korean) had higher IQs than white people, crudely put, more intelligent than white people.

He didn’t offer any statistical analysis for the claim.

He offered some stats for students at Harvard and then immediately extrapolated from ‘student at Harvard’ to any prominent position in society in a ‘meritocracy’ that he didn’t define.

Candace Owens didn’t even graduate college, she’s not where she is because of meritocracy. She tries hard to be offensive but imo she’s just a bit lonely, adapting herself to whatever she thinks will help her fit in. If she said it was raining I’d still look out the window.

Absolutely shocking, I do not mind if someone wants to make an offensive statement in academia if there was any statistical evidence for people to then firmly dispute but nothing more than a claim? He is a disgrace to his profession and Cambridge cleared him of any wrongdoing, I see Cambridge has a pattern…

I’ve twice asked you if you have evidence of the specific things you claimed. Your silly response suggests you don’t.

So yes, no point discussing with you further.

😀How do Mumsnetters think of them !
So quick witted.

He definitely wasn't mute. My cousin was in the same class at Primary school as Jason's older brother Joe. He personally heard Jason speak.

Thanks for the context.

Nor did Arday run 600 miles in six days.

Nor did he receive an advance of 1.4 million (GBP or USD) from Simon & Schuster.

An almost pathological level of lying.

Why didn’t anyone that loved and adore him, not notice he has pathological issues and the most loving thing to have done was go get him some professional health.

Not one family member read his outlandish claims and did not think there was an issue?

What a nasty way to speak about someone - ‘it’?

I’ve found some of your posts interesting and engaged with you on that basis, even when I didn’t agree. Clearly you find it difficult to manage people that disagree with you with even basic politeness. Desperate is right.

I’m not a race relations historian, and have never claimed to be. I’m a black female (former) academic who has witnessed both racism and clumsy attempts to rectify it in the academy. I’ve worked with some of the people you claimed earlier to admire. Ultimately I left academia because it was a fairly toxic environment, for several reasons. Your silly comments are water off a duck’s back. 😘

A valid question, which extends to his faculty.

The left will never realise they're the problem. Sadly. They don't have that capacity of thought.

When they’re obliterated in the ballot box they’ll soon learn or perhaps not, it will be all about far right…

When they actually realise a lot of us ethnic minorities refuse to be good pets and bribed with universal credit 2 child cap removals, it’ll be glorious.

Not even to mention the collision course they’ll eventually have to face when two opposing ideologies who currently are coming together on an issue will have a face off and they’ll learn, most people don’t want men in their daughters bathrooms.

At least I know where I stand with people on the right.

I just hope its not Reform but the Conservatives who win. I'd love KB to be our PM.

No, because they are too busy name calling and generally being arrogant. There's a check list you know they are going to satisfy every time they post on politics.

@CloverAndGrassactually I’m not sure that you are qualified to spot plagiarism in academic work. To do so means you are an expert in a narrow field and familiar with published research. Hence you can easily recognise where ideas and research findings are not properly accredited.

The ‘easiest’ way to plagiarise in terms of simply copying another person’s work is to select non published work such as PhD research that is unknown.

In the social sciences it is also acceptable to have small non-representative samples that provide in depth subjective accounts by interview rather than large random samples that collect data by use of say questionnaire and that are used for quantitative analysis at a population level. Interview data is credible but cannot be extrapolated to the population. It is not made up. This suggests that no interviews were conducted.

I will admit that I have not read much of the coverage. Perhaps you could sign post relevant scrutiny?

Could someone explain to me why his brothers, his other relatives, people who knew JA as a child, were in school with him etc didn’t speak up, say what he was really like ?
Was he deaf ?
Was he mute?
Was he Autistic ?
Was he brilliant at Snooker ?
Had people run with him in those Marathons ? Etc

I was reported to police over the Arday case. I was just doing my job
My investigation into alleged plagiarism was undertaken seriously – journalistic enquiries should not be a matter for Scotland Yard, writes THE reporter Jack Grove

Published on
August 5, 2026
Last updated
August 6, 2026

…However, I hadn’t emailed Arday in four months – my last direct email had been in September, offering formal right of reply to allegations that he had plagiarised his PhD.

That allegation was not made lightly: I had assembled a 63-page report which detailed how he had apparently used, without proper citation, huge chunks from a thesis written in 2009 by another student, Paula Zwozdiak-Myers, now a highly respected education academic at Brunel University of London. Further checks found passages that seemed to be lifted from the work of researchers based in the US, Australia, the United Arab Emirates and elsewhere in the UK. In total, I submitted 97 pages of evidence to both Cambridge and Arday’s awarding institution, Liverpool John Moores University, for their investigation...

Cambridge were weak on that, passing the buck back to LJM. The latter wanted to limit their damage. What an utter embarrassment for these institutions.

Absolutely.

The shame sits squarely with them.

We’re back to you have to be an expert in pottery to identify a teapot, are we? (Sorry can’t remember which pp came up with that analogy).

If a piece of work has numerous sentences identical or nearly identical to another earlier work, it is plagiarism. You don’t need to study in the specific field to be able to identify such work as plagiarism.

Also we’re not talking about the ability to “recognise where ideas and research findings are not properly accredited”. We’re talking about numerous identical and nearly identical chunks of text.

Similarly (but not in answer to your point) if quotes from interviews with research subjects are repeated across an academic’s papers identified as from different subjects (eg quote x in paper a is said to be from a 55 year old man and in paper b is said to be from a 20 year old woman) it is fraudulent data. Again, it’s not necessary to study in the specific field to be able to identify this.

The Times have covered this, and many other sources.

I suggest you read around the case further before you accuse anyone else of speaking outside their expertise. The information is easy to find for anyone interested, and you really don’t need a sociology doctorate to understand what has been going on.

Lack of proper citation is unfortunately very common in the student body at undergraduate and post graduate level and most ‘get away with it’ as non-deliberate plagiarism but learning to write to required standards. Largely because it is a relatively small editorial issue in relation to original research, analysis and conclusions. Were there accusations of plagiarism later once a paid academic?

Exactly this. He reported to the police two people questioning his claims. I’m sure he was devastated when he lost his career but I find it hard to have much sympathy for someone who was prepared to risk destroying other people’s legitimate careers to protect his illegitimate one. It’s also hard to marry these actions with his claims in media interviews to want to ‘weave the world with love’.

People with vulnerabilities or/and mental illness normally find this holds them back in life, not propels them forward. Yet Arday’s alleged vulnerabilities or mental illness served him with remarkable elite level success. I think there is enough to strongly suspect Arday acted with deliberate self-interested calculation rather than erratic vulnerability.

back to the teapot analogy?

your position seems to be that this is a simple matter of identifying copying/pasting and that anyone can do it. Some PP, myself included, (some academics, some??) have expressed views that do not per se disagree that there may have been plagiarism, but flag that this assessment is best left to experts in the discipline especially when the question extends to the validity and extend of the research to scholarship in the field.

In your last reply you imply that you may be speaking from expertise, contrary to PP s previous assertion.

i ve actually lost the thread of what is your main argument?