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Why are the council not tackling the growing camp in central London?

201 replies

Eesha · 08/08/2026 11:29

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16036293/Tents-endless-thefts-local-shopkeepers-bathing-street-Romanian-Bulgarian-beggar-encampment-blighting-heart-London.html

I know its the Daily Fail but ive been past this area and its become really shocking. Its a huge camp now. Why aren't the council doing anything?

The Romanian and Bulgarian beggar encampment blighting heart of London

Row upon row of tents, hurling dishwater onto the road, bathing on the central reservation, harassing passersby, and stealing booze and solvents from the local newsagent.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16036293/Tents-endless-thefts-local-shopkeepers-bathing-street-Romanian-Bulgarian-beggar-encampment-blighting-heart-London.html

OP posts:
KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:13

Is this a homeless crisis ie part of Andy Burnham new plan or is this a gang that comes in and sets up year in and out to steal from shops and rob people ?

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:14

chirrupybird · 08/08/2026 12:48

Aren't here bye laws that prevent people setting up tents in public areas? If I decided to have a family holiday in London and just put up a tent in a park I'm sure there would be some law against it.

You aren’t homeless though

KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:15

@EmeraldRoulette we saw it when doing a tour of UCL uni.

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:15

KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:13

Is this a homeless crisis ie part of Andy Burnham new plan or is this a gang that comes in and sets up year in and out to steal from shops and rob people ?

Harsh! As we’ve said the Park lane one has been there for literally years or maybe decades, I think the UCH one dates back to lockdown. We can’t blame Labour for starting it although I’m not convinced the current laws are helping.

In my local area, I found a lot of homeless people refusing to go to the accommodation they were given because they felt they were safer sleeping in the open air. Obviously others have reasons, different reasons for wanting to sleep in the open air.

KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:17

Well according to local shop keepers it's a gang who Set up to rob ?

KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:18

Yes I'm familiar with London and have seen them mySslf

placemats · 08/08/2026 13:19

@EmeraldRoulette the Euston road goes under the A400 road. Still it's an incredibly unsuitable place for an embankment, for both tent users and road users.

Edit The park lane one was there when I was living in London in the 90s. My daughter lives in Whitechapel and brother and Nephews in the same area.

surpriseWed · 08/08/2026 13:20

mugglewump · 08/08/2026 11:58

I live in London and have not seen this or seen anything about it in local news media, so I had a bit of a google as I do not trust the Daily Mail's 'journalism'. The only evidence I could see was this article, GB'News' and an article about Westminster Council applying for an injunction to remove a camp from Hyde Park in May 2025. In none of the articles was the camp described as huge (the maximum I saw from these defamatory sources was 40). It is not ideal, but I think London councils have bigger worries.

Haha, you’re probably the same poster who outright denied that there are issues with muggings and beggars in London living rough. “Safest city in the world bar Singapore” I think they said.

Elleherd · 08/08/2026 13:22

I volunteer with homeless communities in the area. It's a complicated problem.

Everyone can still be moved on or arrested under all sorts of acts, by both the council and police for antisocial behavior, obstruction, or causing local nuisance.
They can no longer be moved on or criminalized for simply being homeless people that society doesn't want to see.

This was never a solution because you are just moving the problems around and disrupting the work done to help get the genuinely homeless back into society and stop them dying on the streets during winter and heatwaves.

Decriminalizing homelessness has not lead to this. Giving people criminal records for having nowhere left to sleep or go, is just punishing need and poverty, and makes it harder for people to rejoin society when they've fallen out of it.

This group are professional beggars who come for the opportunities that
crowded city streets offer, which vary from from begging, recycling unwanted goods, to pick pocketing, shop lifting, and crime.

TBF the majority don't come to the street kitchens, day centers, or respite activities and opportunities for the homeless, because they're more than capable of looking after themselves. The majority will respond with volatility over anything they don't like happening, which is how they get through difficult lives.
The situations for them in their home countries is so bad, that living rough here works out better for them and can give them enough money to support their families at home.
Some are brought over with the promise of high earnings and that they may get 'a free house,' and are exploited and vulnerable, while others know exactly what they're about and bring themselves for the opportunities.

Everyone living out or working with the homeless knows who is who.

However around them are lots of others just 'fallen through the safety net homeless' also camped in order to have access to food and services. Many, especially women, don't want to go into the hostels because there are so many issues.
And, every night a small army of the non camped homeless, quietly appear in order to set up their tents or beds for the night, and are packed up and gone early in the morning.
Scarily some are working homeless, desperate for employers not to discover they're sleeping rough.

Two years ago the police issued a S35 dispersal order for the section outside UCHL, requiring people to leave the area for a maximum of 48 hours. They got three hours to be gone. Those who couldn't pack up their tents, or who where out at the time, where deemed to have abandoned their few possessions and tents, which were chucked into rubbish trucks by Veolia.

Needless to say it didn't affect the Eastern European group, just the more vulnerable homeless, and there was rightly an outcry at the tactics.

Councils can use Public Spaces Protection Orders to make it illegal to be camped in a specific area or obstruct a doorway by sleeping in it.
The problem comes that they are expected to then do out reach work with those displaced, to not just make them someone else's problem.

Digerydont · 08/08/2026 13:24

Surely, since Brexit, they are not entitled to be there. Why doesn't the government simply charter some planes and return them to Bulgaria/ Romania?

IlikethoseBalenciagas · 08/08/2026 13:24

I didn't see them on Hyde Park last month. I wonder if they weren't moved on for the gigs in the park.

JKRgreatestfan · 08/08/2026 13:24

Minasama · 08/08/2026 12:02

It’s ridiculous if the decriminalisation of homelessness results in camps like these. I’ve seen them in Paris and it’s really horrible. I wonder who they are/how they got here, and what the possibilities are to return them to home countries?

It's almost like our politicians want to turn the UK into the third world. It is in no one's interest to allow this. I bet they decriminalised vagrancy so they didn't have to provide facilities.

hesyourunderstudy · 08/08/2026 13:26

It’s hard enough to get a job when you’re homeless, let alone if you have a criminal record too

Digerydont · 08/08/2026 13:26

Presidente Marine Le Pen will remove them all from Paris.

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:29

KentnotClarke · 08/08/2026 13:17

Well according to local shop keepers it's a gang who Set up to rob ?

They will know better than I do for sure - I don't live in London anymore and I have to go occasionally, but I try not to.

@placemats thank you. You can tell I don't drive any more 😳 I totally forgot about that. I was just thinking in terms of what you see when you walk out of the station.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 08/08/2026 13:29

This group are professional beggars who come for the opportunities that
crowded city streets offer, which vary from from begging, recycling unwanted goods, to pick pocketing, shop lifting, and crime.

I wonder if they are linked to the Eastern European female Big Issue sellers who also seem to be part of some scam too. If they can't find work in the UK they should be deported.

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 13:30

Digerydont · 08/08/2026 13:24

Surely, since Brexit, they are not entitled to be there. Why doesn't the government simply charter some planes and return them to Bulgaria/ Romania?

They might already have settled status in which case they are entitled to be here. Do you understand that?

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:32

hesyourunderstudy · 08/08/2026 13:26

It’s hard enough to get a job when you’re homeless, let alone if you have a criminal record too

I've certainly never met anyone who got a criminal record because of being homeless

It just meant it was easier for police to move them on. This is going to look completely different in different places. In a zone five suburb the police were very helpful about pointing them to the services that I was volunteering for

I can also imagine that the types of groups we are discussing in central London are self-sufficient and have no interest in being pointed to local resources.

if the Park Lane one has been there since the 90s, I do wonder if we are on the next generation. It has been 30 years after all.

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:33

Digerydont · 08/08/2026 13:26

Presidente Marine Le Pen will remove them all from Paris.

Prime Minister Andy Burnham is promising to end homelessness.

Empty promises all round

Supersleepysheepy · 08/08/2026 13:33

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 12:47

You're quite naive if you think people dont actually choose to live like this

I think that's unfair. I imagine that this being your preferred choice, in cases where it is a choice, means that the choices were not exactly great to start with.

MadeInGrimsby · 08/08/2026 13:46

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:33

Prime Minister Andy Burnham is promising to end homelessness.

Empty promises all round

With the best will in the world, it's not going to happen in a couple of weeks is it?
Be reasonable.

Digerydont · 08/08/2026 13:54

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 13:30

They might already have settled status in which case they are entitled to be here. Do you understand that?

Then they would be entitled to being housed by the council as homeless?

EmeraldRoulette · 08/08/2026 13:56

MadeInGrimsby · 08/08/2026 13:46

With the best will in the world, it's not going to happen in a couple of weeks is it?
Be reasonable.

I never said it would happen in a couple of weeks (I don’t think it will happen in a couple of centuries)

I was just pointing out that Marine Le Pen said it, and Andy Burnham said it…. Politicians are all full of crap is basically what I’m saying. they’ve said immediately comparable things in pretty much the same timeframe. Just an observation.

zurigo · 08/08/2026 13:59

thank you for confirming that. The 90s sounds about right. But that's when I became an adult mid 90s - so they've probably been there longer.

Actually, I may be wrong by saying the 90s. Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU on Jan 1, 2007, so they are unlikely to have been there before that date. It's a long time, that's for sure, but I'm guessing it started in 2007.

MeganM3 · 08/08/2026 14:01

So where should they go? They clearly don’t want to go ‘home’ or don’t feel they have one.
Families with children are housed, working age adults without are not - and definitely not if they don’t have the right paperwork. So where should they go? What are the options?

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