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Friend brought her husband to long planned dinner with old friends 🙄

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Wofflewaffle · 03/07/2026 23:24

Went to have dinner out with three old friends tonight. It’s taken a year to find a date that we are all available, we’ve all got lots to talk about, really looking forward to it and… 30 minutes before we are due to meet one of them texts to say that her husband will be joining us!!!

she’s got form for this. I’ve often gone to meet with her and she’ll have brought some random acquaintance along with her. Or I go to her house for tea, and her neighbour will be there too. Or we’ll go en famille to her country house - and when we get there another family / some cousins / the neighbours will also have been invited.

i hate it. It changes the dynamic completely. Tonight it changed from the expected girly catch up to talking about very bland stuff, because we didn’t want to get into anything personal with her husband there. I didn’t make a fuss at the time, and he left after we’d eaten so we had about an hour of proper catching up, but I feel very cheated. I didn’t say anything at the time because her husband is also friends with us, as a family friend. He’s perfectly nice - just not tonight!

i just can’t understand why she thinks this is ok - nor why her husband would even want to join us!

OP posts:
DBSFstupid · 04/07/2026 11:40

Wofflewaffle · 03/07/2026 23:24

Went to have dinner out with three old friends tonight. It’s taken a year to find a date that we are all available, we’ve all got lots to talk about, really looking forward to it and… 30 minutes before we are due to meet one of them texts to say that her husband will be joining us!!!

she’s got form for this. I’ve often gone to meet with her and she’ll have brought some random acquaintance along with her. Or I go to her house for tea, and her neighbour will be there too. Or we’ll go en famille to her country house - and when we get there another family / some cousins / the neighbours will also have been invited.

i hate it. It changes the dynamic completely. Tonight it changed from the expected girly catch up to talking about very bland stuff, because we didn’t want to get into anything personal with her husband there. I didn’t make a fuss at the time, and he left after we’d eaten so we had about an hour of proper catching up, but I feel very cheated. I didn’t say anything at the time because her husband is also friends with us, as a family friend. He’s perfectly nice - just not tonight!

i just can’t understand why she thinks this is ok - nor why her husband would even want to join us!

If she's an 'old friend' then why have none of you told her?

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 04/07/2026 11:41

I have a friend who doesn’t go anywhere without her dh, I think it’s weird.

It’s definitely an anxiety issue, he’s like her emotional support dog!

MandarinCat · 04/07/2026 11:44

Gardenflowering · 04/07/2026 05:37

Gawd how annoying.

My friends “dh” suggested she bring her toddler along to our girls evening in a restaurant because…& she agreed with him, “ the girls hadn’t seen the toddler in ages so it would be great for us all to spend time with him”.

erm, no! It was a night out for us all to get away from our kids and enjoy peace adult company for once.
The lazy arsed “dh” just wanted to game all evening and cba to look after his child.

I needed to explicitly spell out that no one would come if she brought toddler along, plus it’s 7.30 till late when kid should be tucked up in bed!
She was flabbergasted and slightly offended!

Lazy bugger.

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longtompot · 04/07/2026 11:57

@Wofflewaffle I had a friend who would bring her now ex along to girls nights out. It turned out she was in an abusive & controlling relationship

faial · 04/07/2026 12:15

If he is a friend as you say (as opposed to just the spouse of a friend which is what it sounds like) then why can't you have an honest conversation with him? They both sound entitled and with people like that, hint dropping doesn't work.

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:20

Cherrytree86 · 04/07/2026 10:57

He sounds like a prick. Why can’t he leave his wife to it to enjoy her girls evening??

Ive experienced this phenomenon in differing forms and circumstances
over many years.
Younger women, girls really, had tag alongs, drippy hapless looking youths
or young men, sit amongst the girls looking at their own fingers,
end up hving drinks bought for them, conversation inhibited, the
evening ruined and shortened
grown men who join a group of women who are established friends,
meeting by arrngement, are excited by this prospect, the cockerel in
the hen house, one I recall making lewd remrks whilst his wife sniggered
as though he was being witty, ended the evening, we by looks decided
not to eat, reconvened elsewhere without them, wife left group soon after.

the cock of the walk type is the most regular, with a ready made, polite
well mannered audience, sounding forth, flirtatious, knee touching, excited,
who we would find out later ‘insisted on coming’

then the OH who insists on driving the friend to the venue so that she can
have a drink, sits at another part of the bar, never takes his eyes off her,
then when he believe its time to go home, comes over to reclaim her - a
variation of this is the OH who drops off the friend at venue, declares in front
of friend he will come to pick her up at 10 and to be ready to leave

As posters have enquired in a baffled voice, why would seemingly normal,
regular men want to sit with women

Or 3 close single ladies, expecting a fourth the next day, on a self catering
beach holiday in Abersoch with our children, 7 in all, for two weeks, a
long drive from where we all lived close together, no landline, no mobiles then.

one friend had been seeing a much younger single man we hadn’t yet met
6am one morning, hammering on the front door, we expecting 4th friend,
but not that early, one put the kttle on, one opened the door wearing short nightie,
yes you guessed, grinning from ear to ear, smooth estate agent type, reeking
of freshly applied aftershave, stepped in.
Our friend looked surprised but spent the next few days bonking and dining
out with him whilst we were stuck with her 3 kids whom we noted, he completely
disregarded. Friend was 38, young Lochinvar type male 27/28.
Even in a fast car it would have taken him 3 hours to do 140 miles from Marple
its a long drive but worth it to him for a dead cert.
What sort of man does this? Other friend used pub phone to advise incoming
friend of situation, rowed with hot friend, why would you give him this address?
incoming friend (it was her house) sends telegram, Get him Out! arrives next
day with wonderful food and wine, comics for kids, blow up beach stuff, like
the Cavalry or Uncle Monty ha ha

the rampant cuckoo who arrived empty handed was never mentioned
Of course he was never seen or heard from again once we were all home
but he stayed, unwelcome, hard faced, long enough to bewilder all our
single figure children, annoy other friends, share bathroom, puncture football.

another type is the brought along oddball, one very loud, opinionated,
collected train tickets, and timetables, had a room in the house dedicated
to this hobby, spent the weekend at Swindon or Derby with locomotives,
declared the only music he would (deign to) listen to was 1500 or
earlier, madrigals, as though we were reprobates by playing Springsteen
the wife was a friend to many, normal, happy, lovely daughters, sociable,
a complete revelation,
so, to be sure we were guaranteed never to suffer him
again, she wasn’t asked to anything again
this all becomes difficult and political and fraught when we were all young
mums and families on a new estate, with children at the same nursery then
the same school

we are too polite in dealing with assessing these situations, automtically
considering the long term effects of speaking out
now I’m older and experienced this many times I wouldn’t even consider
a spouse of ‘friend’ to be a viable component of my evening and would
say so and then most likely leave, as a couple they assumed, incorrectly,
that I would play nice in the face of their blatant disrespect

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:26

Beachtastic · 04/07/2026 09:35

If it happens again, simply turn the evening into a pagan ceremony in which you dance around him dressed in robes, binding him to a post like a May pole, whispering and chanting, and set him aflame.

too much Midsommer for you !

SinceYoureGayAndAddictedToHeroin · 04/07/2026 12:29

Wofflewaffle · 04/07/2026 05:08

I’ll definitely spell it out in advance next time. I told her previously how annoying it was but I could tell she didn’t really get it. She’s Malaysian - maybe it’s a cultural thing? She said that for her, she always has many invitations to reciprocate, and she likes to ’bring interesting people together’ 🙄. This was a few years ago and she hasn’t done it with me since - until last night.

By the time she told us, we were all en route, including him. It was hard to say anything on the spot with her husband there - he genuinely is a friend and in a couples / family situation I’m happy to see him, which I think is why she assumed it was ok to bring him 🤷‍♀️.

she likes to ’bring interesting people together'

Oh god she's one of those. No it's not cultural, I've known plenty of these tiresome people in this country.

Beachtastic · 04/07/2026 12:29

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:26

too much Midsommer for you !

I was thinking more Wicker Man 😁

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

ABitFab · 04/07/2026 12:30

I would have cancelled.

NotTheSuggestedUsername · 04/07/2026 12:32

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

My best friend is a man. If we were getting together and he randomly brought his boyfriend with no discussion, I would be annoyed. He would never do that either. It is basic social awareness.

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:39

Beachtastic · 04/07/2026 12:29

I was thinking more Wicker Man 😁

I was a bit slow there, ha ha

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:54

SinceYoureGayAndAddictedToHeroin · 04/07/2026 12:29

she likes to ’bring interesting people together'

Oh god she's one of those. No it's not cultural, I've known plenty of these tiresome people in this country.

this is why we have parties isn’t it, especially country house parties
where a disparate group can convene and have fun
OP this occasion shows a difference in expectations

joined-at-the-hip inseparable couples who share an email address
open each others hard mail, call ech other pet names in public,
forever touching, hold hands, share meaningful looks,
mouth things to each other across the room,
never go out without the other, he always drives,
wife constantly quotes husband - “ well Colin says- and I agree”
have niche interests and hobbies,
many signs there,
but a complete mystery to individuals who just happen to be married
and possibly an anathema

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 13:03

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

no one mentioned “only”

this situation described by the OP is specific

the range of topics you believe a women only group discuss is limited

however, when you are not with them, your female friends breathe a
sigh of relief and get right down to sex, stockings and thrush
without the Head Girl deciding the topics

Mumwithagreenhouse · 04/07/2026 13:09

Why didn’t you just get up and go elsewhere with the other friends before she got there? Or text back to say No! He’s not invited

Thecomedyclub · 04/07/2026 13:15

I know someone who brought her DP to an all girls school reunion. Sometimes there’s nothing you can say that isn’t already flipping obvious.

Lavenderandbrown · 04/07/2026 13:24

This has been an enlightening thread…
I really don’t enjoy other friends/ families husbands. I can visit/ be pleasant but all my real conversation takes place with women only. I’m close to my DH son brother and father but really only them. I love it when the male partner makes himself scarce

occasionally I have offered my DH to attend a dinner with female friends (honestly mostly becuse he will treat us all….i know that’s awful) but I’m going to stop that. He has never attended but sometimes it seems like he wants an invitation but once offered declines .
for years a group of us attended an annual
large scale event there were always unused tickets floating around mostly because one person always overbought I stopped feeling comfortable but continued attending not sure why the joy had gone out of it and then realized it was no longer about the core group getting together but who could
be added who was “fun enough” to be added and it was always a last minute full on discussion and I wasn’t part of it. Once I stopped going 2 other couples Dropped out the very next year. Even now it creates a feeling of I’m not enough so all these other people need added to make it fun I was the original attendee and original planner

Yetone · 04/07/2026 13:26

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

We have lots of mixed sex meetings but it is nice to have a women’s only evening. My husband also enjoys a men only catch up. You are not joined t the hip.

HaveYouFedTheFish · 04/07/2026 13:30

SinceYoureGayAndAddictedToHeroin · 04/07/2026 12:29

she likes to ’bring interesting people together'

Oh god she's one of those. No it's not cultural, I've known plenty of these tiresome people in this country.

I think this is true.

It's something a relative of mine does - white British.

Invites multiple families or couples to stay the same long weekend or school holidays week and doesn't tell any of them until a day or two before that x and y have also said they'd like to come up, and A with B and baby C will join us on Sunday and stay till Tuesday, you don't mind do you, we'll have to squeeze up but it'll be lovely to see everyone and the children can play together (despite massive age difference meaning that "play together" means "babysit and entertain much younger kids they don't know for free".

We (a recently married couple in our 30s at that time) were invited to stay there for my sister's wedding nearby - we did not ask to stay but were explicitly invited - and then casually told on arrival that a few other people had "also asked to stay" (looking back I highly doubt they'd asked and am sure the invitation had been made unsolicited) and we were sharing the dining room floor with another couple! Luckily we were able to find a hotel with availability but we paid over the odds for a not especially nice room further away when we could have booked a nicer hotel nearer the venue if we hadn't been looking on the actual day!

I don't accept invitations to stay any more and haven't for years after one very awkward triple booked stay when my children were early teens and pre teens and expected to take another family's toddlers into the garden and play with them daily so the adults could sit around making smalltalk because we all only knew the host (my relative, friend of the parents of the other couple, very convoluted!), and we stay in holiday rentals when we visit.

mondaytosunday · 04/07/2026 13:34

Im a widow and I know my friends enjoy women only dinners. We meet for coffee lunch but I would do dinner for us two or three times a year. It was always billed as women only - though I am the only single iersin in our group I am not going to double the numbers and change the whole point of it! After all no one invites me to couply dinners!
Inevitably one particular woman always asks if men are included and I always say ‘absolutely not’. They can take that whatever way they want.
I have another friend I meet up for lunch and her DH works for himself and in occasion she’s asked if he can join us. Not sure why as they always seem to be on the brink of divorce! I just say no. He’s an ass.
Not sure what to do about your friend if you’ve already laid it out for her. Maybe just reinforce the no men bit when arranging it: ‘Maisie this means you - no husbands allowed’!

FeelingALittleWoozyHere · 04/07/2026 13:36

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

I dont think anyone is 'only' doing that. But ultimately there is a different dynamic when you are with a bunch of women (especially if youve all known each other for years) vs if people have partners along. I think its nice to do both. My DH is on a weekend away just now with friends from school, they've known each other for over 30 years. I love the fact he is getting that time with them. Ill do something similar in November with my school friends. I wouldnt want my DH there changing the dynamic

HaveYouFedTheFish · 04/07/2026 13:41

gannett · 04/07/2026 12:29

Always blows my mind how many people on MN only socialise with their own gender. Social circles where the default is for the wives to group together and the husbands to group together are completely tedious.

I've become friends with most of my friends' partners over the years. DP has become friends with most of my friends. I would find it bizarre if he was horrified by the idea of socialising with my friends. Almost all of our social catchups, drinks, meals with friends end up being mixed-gender. I never feel limited as to what I can talk about if men are there? I'm not in the habit of talking about gynaecological issues or my sex life with female friends over cocktails either, and thankfully they're not the types to do that either.

What on earth are you talking about that men can't be present for?!

This just reveals a complete lack of Theory of Mind.

Are you really unable to imagine other women might not have exactly the same social preferences, backgrounds and lives as you and enjoy, prefer, want or need to have, different types of conversations?

LilacHam · 04/07/2026 13:44

Madamefroufrou · 04/07/2026 12:54

this is why we have parties isn’t it, especially country house parties
where a disparate group can convene and have fun
OP this occasion shows a difference in expectations

joined-at-the-hip inseparable couples who share an email address
open each others hard mail, call ech other pet names in public,
forever touching, hold hands, share meaningful looks,
mouth things to each other across the room,
never go out without the other, he always drives,
wife constantly quotes husband - “ well Colin says- and I agree”
have niche interests and hobbies,
many signs there,
but a complete mystery to individuals who just happen to be married
and possibly an anathema

I know a couple like that. Before they had DC they even shared a mobile 'phone as well as an email address. They work in the same school, have done for years and never did anything separately for years and years.

Since having DC they have out of necessity done some things separately but still prefer to always be together. And have a shared FB account 😀 but separate mobile phones now , but on the same contract so same bill.

They've been together about 30 years now. Always very happy. Not controlling or anxious. When we were younger people used to comment on it because girls/boys nights were much more of a thing and they'd always bring the other but they just said they were each others favourite person and wouldn't enjoy themselves as much on separate nights out so why do it?

It wouldn't be for me buf it is for them.

HaveYouFedTheFish · 04/07/2026 13:47

This too(editing to add that I meant to quote@FeelingALittleWoozyHere )

Women only meet ups have a totally different dynamic.

Close friend meet ups where a group of four or five have known each other well for years or decades also have their own very special dynamic which is changed if someone else joins, especially a partner of one person but even a same sex sibling or friend who tags along with one group member and who doesn't have the shared history changes the dynamic.

Pretending or believing this isn't true is either disingenuous or lacking in social awareness.