3 year old injured by crocodiles - man arrested

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So I assume the man deliberately placed the child into the crocodile enclosure. Psychopath? Sounds similar to the man who threw the boy off the Tate?

(And also, not connected but these places are shit for the animals and should be shut down)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czx50n2vj74o

(& apologies if thread already started?)

Your loads are beyond belief.

This post does not say all SN people should be locked up though.
Some severely mentally ill people shouldn’t be around the general public, that’s not a wild claim.

What the actual fuck.

Its OK that he got thrown into a crocodile pit cus he'll have cool stories.

Cannot believe what I just read.

This, @XenoBitch you think he’ll be thinking “yay how cool someone tried to violently kill me” ?

the sun says the boy has a broken arm and pelvis
the whole event is just awful

What do you mean? “What really happened” ? Do you think the witnesses are all making it up and that it wasn’t this man (who was seen) that did this horrendous act, and it’s all a conspiracy? Are you one of the posters blaming the parents?

I was in the Tate on the awful day a young child was thrown from a 10th floor balcony by a man with additional needs. My then 6 year old DD wanted to go up to that floor but the lifts were constantly full so we gave up. I saw an ambulance as we were leaving but didn’t think anything of it. When I heard the news later, together with the revelations that the attacker told his carers he planned to kill a child and smiled as he dropped the little boy head first off the balcony, my blood ran cold. He was given a 15 year sentence and will be about in a few short years, still very young and strong. In my opinion he should be kept under secure lock and key for the rest of his life. Why does the fact someone with murderous intent has additional needs or MH issues mean we need to be more lenient than we otherwise would be?

I am very wary when out in public and come across men and older boys with MH issues/additional needs who behave erratically and aggressively. I was on a bus with DS not long ago when a man got on and began pacing up and down, screaming and shouting. I got off immediately. I fully appreciate my attitude sounds awful to many and I’m genuinely sorry if parents of children with SEN find it offensive. However I’m at an age when personal safety is more important to me than someone else’s feelings or being ‘inclusive’.

This is so inappropriate. Any 3 year old in a critical condition is going to be incredibly high risk. His parents and probably the child will potentially face a degree of psychological trauma for the fear of their lives even if the physical injuries can be managed in the short-term. Scaring can also be disfiguring and life changing.

Same.

We should have a society where a 3 year old can be free to walk, play and exist near their parents in a public setting like a zoo without fear that a man will attempt to seriously injury or kill the child.
This man’s actions are incomprehensible, the question is why did he do it, not where the parents were.
It takes 2 seconds to lift and throw a 3 year old, right now there’s nothing to suggest the parents were not right with their child.

Are people not allowed to be afraid of things that are frightening?

I find big men with an obvious lack of both mental and physical control quite frightening.

I'm sure I'm not alone in that, and there are plenty of examples why that fear is rational.

Well you said Horrific! Am interested to know the full facts of what actually happened . How he got so close to the child where the parents were etc . That poor child
what do you mean by “the full facts? And of course the rest of your post is absolutely blaming the parents!

I agree!

This thread is crazy made so by a specific poster @XenoBitch who is more concerned about someone being imprisoned for an evil act than a 3 year old who has been thrown into a crocodile pit!

Then she is making light of it saying oh well he will have some great scars and stories wtf!

It is delusional and shameful, I’ve never heard such madness.

The BBC reporting is a disgrace he didn’t just end up in there he was thrown. Every other paper saying it like it is.
Let’s hope the person who did this is going to prison for a very long time.

It’s a miracle he’s still alive. It doesn’t bear thinking about crocodiles are incredibly powerful one snap and it would be all over. Well done to the zoo owner’s wife who jumped in to save him.

@BeardySchnauzer - thanks. I made the comment thinking along those lines. Cinemas, supermarkets etc have special sessions for people who may be triggered by normal noise/hustle and bustle. I was not suggesting that ALL people with special needs should be locked up away from society!

@Happytaytos - thanks, you understand entirely where I was coming from and I was clearly responding within the context of this case - apologies to @BertieBotts I thought that was obvious!!
Some posters love to exaggerate and misconstrue things!

I completely agree. I don’t understand why being fearful of a man up to twice my size who is impulsive, aggressive and lacking in cognitive reasoning is irrational or misguided. I keep hearing that people with MH problems are more of a risk to themselves than others and I’m sure that’s true. But why does that mean I can’t feel genuine fear when in the presence of someone who is mentally ill and behaving as if they might harm others?

Fortunately @Eastie77Returns he was given a minimum 15 year term and given his behaviour since then, including attacking and injuring prison officers, I doubt he will be released. He's a clear danger to others. And as I keep saying, those are the people who should be kept in secure locations - the posters bleating about how others want to lock up anyone with additional needs are wilfully misrepresenting those posts, and being apologists for dangerous violent men while they're at it.

So kids are resilient and the three year old will probably laugh about a terrifying attack on him, but we're all supposed to feel terribly sad about a violent mentally ill man not getting to go on trips to the zoo anymore because he needs our empathy? Astonishing that you can't see what a twisted view of the world this is.

As expected I read the update today and it’s VERY similar to the Tate Gallery story years ago. I’m absolutely furious. How on earth is anyone meant to keep their children safe? I am so thankful that mine are massive, heavy things now or else I think I’d be putting them on reins when out and about.

It seems to be similar posters who rant about how terrible all men are, who then in the next breath advocate for mentally ill men to be able to live freely in society however much of a danger they present. And it’s ableist to be afraid.

There is a secure mental home near me and occasionally I see a man going for a walk manacled wrist and ankle to two big male carers. Am I unkind for giving them the widest of berths?

Fuck kindness at this point. Just keep your kids safe at all cost.

I used to live near one of those facilities and Thatcher shut it down. Well done Maggie 👏🙄

I wish we had a women only island.

Absolutely!