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Labour isn't Working - Thread 35

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Nuthatch26 · 18/06/2026 14:38

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour* *government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 13:05

CaveMum · 23/06/2026 12:46

Kemi’s comments on BBC Breakfast this morning were good.

Brilliant 👏

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CaveMum · 23/06/2026 13:15

In the continuing tradition of me recommending podcasts, this week’s TRIM is good. Interview with Stephen Kelly, who was brought in by David Cameron to make savings in the Civil Service.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rest-is-money/id1703785141?i=1000773649991

Why we need fewer civil servants

Why we need fewer civil servants

Podcast Episode · The Rest Is Money · 21 June · 48min

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/why-we-need-fewer-civil-servants/id1703785141?i=1000773649991

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 13:30

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 13:03

Not just you at all.
I feel so much lighter. 😁
Just waiting for Reeves to slither off to complete the set.
Will definitely raise a glass with a smirk if Bridget gets the chop.

So, so good. A big weight off and much lighter indeed. It even made me run a bit faster I may have sung a bit and punched the air 😅

Those two to go too and fab.

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EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 13:32

CaveMum · 23/06/2026 12:46

Kemi’s comments on BBC Breakfast this morning were good.

Kemi was good on Times Radio. I didn’t hear all
of it but I was really pleased the interviewer brought up that her personal ratings are the highest of all leaders.

Usually they can be derisory and no, she commands respect thanks!

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 13:44

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 13:30

So, so good. A big weight off and much lighter indeed. It even made me run a bit faster I may have sung a bit and punched the air 😅

Those two to go too and fab.

Haha 😂

We had a little celebration lastnight. Happy days.

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Parsley4321 · 23/06/2026 14:08

I’m glad Starmer has gone but Burnham for the love of god is just dreadful how the hell is he going to be representing us just awful

justasking111 · 23/06/2026 14:09

Parsley4321 · 23/06/2026 14:08

I’m glad Starmer has gone but Burnham for the love of god is just dreadful how the hell is he going to be representing us just awful

Wait and see.

PaperTyger · 23/06/2026 14:59

redange · 23/06/2026 09:48

Gcse's are over for DD1 she has to go into a A level induction next week. After I finished my GCSE's I had little worry about the economy the government, my employment future whether I go to University, there were all just an inevitable pathway. The comparison with what DD1 DD2 and DS are going to have to progress though could not be distinct and they come from extremely privilege backgrounds !
They might be ok given their backgrounds. However, in a country where it is impossible to go out without fear, where poverty and decay is visible everywhere outside small bubbles !

Agree one of mine is going to get three years reprive in uni and hope the economy is better when she gets out. The other has a few years yet and I hope doesn't go to uni.

MPforTitipu · 23/06/2026 15:20

I can't do the link, but there is a good Matt cartoon in today's Telegraph commenting on the diversity of the possible next Labour leader.

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 15:40

@MPforTitipu 😁

Labour isn't Working - Thread 35
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Pacificwave · 23/06/2026 16:03

I just worry that Andy and his chancellor may think that it’s only fair that they get a few tax rises to redistribute as they wish.

MPforTitipu · 23/06/2026 16:13

Thank you @Nuthatch26.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/06/2026 16:30

🤣

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 17:15

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 15:40

@MPforTitipu 😁

Ha this is pretty true. It’s just the accent

SpaceRaccoon · 23/06/2026 17:50

How is Burnham already doing briefings? By what official mechanism does he have the right?

Middlerage · 23/06/2026 17:57

He’s the king of the north presumably!

InterestQ · 23/06/2026 18:04

I have become so sick of Labour in government that I haven’t taken enough notice of all this - I sort of thought gat since Starmer was who people voted for if they voted Labour then he should stay - mandate blah blah (I got very bored of the Tory revolving door for the same reasons but who knew! They’re all the same and I am unable to look at Starmer without envisioning him and Lord Alli choosing glasses together in specsavers) - BUT, as I survey the chaotic lovelight in the Lefty eyes…. I realise Reeves is on the way out and WOOHOO FOR THAT.

I think increase the personal Allowance to £15k, let everyone have a personal allowance even high earners (see later), make the free childcare salary threshold based on household, increase income tax by 1%- maybe 2% - for everyone, cancel the employers’ NI increase and reduce welfare without being an arsehole.

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:08

InterestQ · 23/06/2026 18:04

I have become so sick of Labour in government that I haven’t taken enough notice of all this - I sort of thought gat since Starmer was who people voted for if they voted Labour then he should stay - mandate blah blah (I got very bored of the Tory revolving door for the same reasons but who knew! They’re all the same and I am unable to look at Starmer without envisioning him and Lord Alli choosing glasses together in specsavers) - BUT, as I survey the chaotic lovelight in the Lefty eyes…. I realise Reeves is on the way out and WOOHOO FOR THAT.

I think increase the personal Allowance to £15k, let everyone have a personal allowance even high earners (see later), make the free childcare salary threshold based on household, increase income tax by 1%- maybe 2% - for everyone, cancel the employers’ NI increase and reduce welfare without being an arsehole.

Sounds good to me. There are rumours that Burnham wants to have another look at employer NI.🤞
Who he chooses as chancellor will be key. If he appoints Red Ed, he's doomed before he's even started.

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Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:10

SpaceRaccoon · 23/06/2026 17:50

How is Burnham already doing briefings? By what official mechanism does he have the right?

I suppose nobody cares what Starmer thinks or says anymore, so Burnham is defacto PM.
24 days of having 2 prime ministers.

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SpaceRaccoon · 23/06/2026 18:12

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:10

I suppose nobody cares what Starmer thinks or says anymore, so Burnham is defacto PM.
24 days of having 2 prime ministers.

Everyone just does what they want these days. It makes me feel old.

InterestQ · 23/06/2026 18:16

Red Ed looks like he expects the job with that star-y march but I feel like Burnham shouldn’t do that (obviously). I try very hard not to feel personal antipathy towards individual politicians I have never met but I struggled with Reeves! It seemed like she enjoyed destroying people who had the temerity to set up businesses and hire people. And her demands for “respect”. Gaaaah.

ANYWAY. Maybe Red Ed can do the impossible and I shall remember her fondly…

just shove Wes in as chancellor. I was fine with him as Health Secretary actually. He tried as hard as he could.

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 18:17

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:10

I suppose nobody cares what Starmer thinks or says anymore, so Burnham is defacto PM.
24 days of having 2 prime ministers.

It’s just a handover isn’t it. Like anyone has endured when leaving work. Here’s the latest file ‘final 2. final’ we’re over budget.

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:24

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 18:17

It’s just a handover isn’t it. Like anyone has endured when leaving work. Here’s the latest file ‘final 2. final’ we’re over budget.

I much prefer how the tories do it. Rn, there is no PM who can actually make a decision. Times reporting that they had a secret meeting today, but there's apparently an argument going on about the DIP. Starmer wants to announce, but Burnham wants to sort it himself. Then we'll have the ridiculous spectacle of Bollard going to Nato when he's actually in charge of fuck all. 🤷‍♂️

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NoWordForFluffy · 23/06/2026 18:29

I think increase the personal Allowance to £15k, let everyone have a personal allowance even high earners (see later), make the free childcare salary threshold based on household, increase income tax by 1%- maybe 2% - for everyone, cancel the employers’ NI increase and reduce welfare without being an arsehole.

I agree with this. Though it's probably too sensible!

EasternStandard · 23/06/2026 18:31

Nuthatch26 · 23/06/2026 18:24

I much prefer how the tories do it. Rn, there is no PM who can actually make a decision. Times reporting that they had a secret meeting today, but there's apparently an argument going on about the DIP. Starmer wants to announce, but Burnham wants to sort it himself. Then we'll have the ridiculous spectacle of Bollard going to Nato when he's actually in charge of fuck all. 🤷‍♂️

Yeh the NATO thing is nuts isn’t it with bollard going. At least the EU have said sort out your leader before we do a summit.