Flaming June - Will The Wheels Finally Fall Off Don Snoreleone's Bus? - Trump Thread #165

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Vance defo looks like the day after the night before here. (att).

There he was, sat with Kegsbreath, sipping a JD or two as he celebrated "getting out of it", when the phone rang.

On the Qatar bribe plane, just reading what Trump said at the ceremony. And this is a prime example of what would be headline news if any other POTUS came out with this crap. But Trump gets a total pass, because this is just normal for him.

DONALD TRUMP 00:00:00-00:00:29 (30 SEC)
Well, thank you very much. And, uh, before we begin on the plane, this is a brand new hangar because as you probably have learned, uh, these planes are much bigger. The other plane was about 35 years old and it was time and, uh, President of the United States, numerous of them would land and they'd be standing next to one of the new 747s and, uh, the biggest, uh, difference is a difference in size.

So there we have it. A new hanger because the newer 747 is a different size than the older ones. That's ok, new versions were slightly different. Esp between the 100 and 200. Size image attached. So back to Trump :

DONALD TRUMP 00:00:29-00:00:57 (28 SEC)
It's like virtually double the size and actually on a runway it looks even more so. And I said to myself, you know, these countries, they have a lot of respect for us a lot and yet they have a, a plane that's much better and much newer. It's a little ridiculous out there. And we have our signal and we have our beautiful American flag and we put the wave in it. As you know, we've always gone with a straight little noodle and I never loved that.

Ahh. Virtually double the size. Erm... nope. So lets hear what more he says about the plane size. Next line :

DONALD TRUMP 00:00:57-00:01:15 (18 SEC)
Now we have a wavy, beautiful flag. We're waving it proudly because our country is doing so well. Our country's doing so well. Those ships are flowing out of the Hormuz Strait like nobody's ever seen before, actually. There were a lot of them, about 700 of them and they're pouring out and the oil is all over the place.

Ahh. No more about the plane. It's the flag, and oil is all over the place. But we do eventually get back to the plane :

DONALD TRUMP 00:03:20-00:04:03 (43 SEC)
We have 19.2 trillion dollars coming into our country from other countries and people, but a lot of other countries they're coming in, including, uh, Qatar who was so nice and providing. You know, we were, we were, uh, at a little bit of a log jam. We're waiting for the, I call them the normal 747s and I asked the Amir if we could use the brand new 747 that he got with, had, when we first, uh, heard about 800 hours, 800 hours for an airplane is essentially, I think Troy, you could say that's a brand new plane.

What the actual fuck is he talking about ?

Remarks: Donald Trump Speaks to Servicemembers After New Air Force One Tour - June 19, 2026 — Trump Archive (trump-archive.com)

From that Qatar jet speech, this bit has to be mentioned :

DONALD TRUMP 00:19:58-00:20:15 (17 SEC)
But our pilots, designers, and engineers prepared an aircraft that is the largest Air Force One ever built. It flies further and faster than any Air Force One. Those are the giant engines, those are incredible engines.

DONALD TRUMP 00:20:15-00:20:40 (25 SEC)
Far- --it, it's the fastest, flies further. You don't have to stop for fuel every few hours. You, you maybe will never have to stop for fuel. It's got, they call it unlimited. Well, it's pretty close to unlimited, and which is among the most beautiful aircrafts the Air Force will ever see or operate. You'll never have this opportunity again and, I want to thank everybody involved including Tamim.

He starts off with it flies further. We can see his brain tick. The other planes need stop every few hours, embellish that.. right, it has unlimited range, that's better. No wait, too much, pull back a bit. Let's call it pretty close to unlimited. There, aced it. I just showed them I know more about planes than anyone.

I reckon we can see the battle that is going on in his head. What he wants to be true, verses actual reality. And the final version he gets out is closer to his make believe than reality. To him, it must feel as if he is conceding a bit to reality. It's the imaginary version in his head that he thinks is true. And he hates people that destroy his version. He has already conceded, and to him that should be enough.

He really is fundamentally detached from reality ?

Hang on, if we've got planes that never need to be refuelled, we don't need Iranian oil

Windmills and long wires. Works for me.

I think it shows the level of his thinking. It's as if he has a world model in his head, his model. And it's pure fantasy.

What's happening in the Strait? Open? Shut? Does anyone care,,? 😭

Thank you. I keep going back to Michelle Obama’s speech at the opening of the Center, and watching her interaction with her husband. Now that is how a real President and First Lady should behave. Trump and Melania look atrocious in comparison - they have absolutely no idea, and no couth at all.

No idea, but I suppose we will know when the stock markets open.

What I did notice though is that Vance just got a wee plane to fly him to Switzerland. We can talk about that while we wait for news ?

Is it because the wee plane is faster than the big plane ? I think this might be a Learjet 35A. That can do 597 mph. A 747 can cruise at 567mph.

Att

Our house is all applause for Robert de Niro at the moment, too.

I find his speech about this bloody plane absolutely disgusting. How can his MAGAts justify this incredible spending on something quite unnecessary plus they themselves scrimping to afford groceries.
Saying it probably won't need refuelling reminds me of him saying that the F35 stealth planes were totally invisible even if one was flying next to you
He is so incredibly thick it is untrue

Checking back in - I’ve been in the wilds with no internet for a week.

Glad to see he’s still incoherent as ever, the pool is disintegrating and the SOH is clamped firmly shut.

Photo att.

Vance really does look rough here. And ok, I can overlook the saluting without a hat thing. I get it, the US have different rules. Personally, I go with the no hat, no salute. But come on JD... GET YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR POCKET.

Imagine if Obama done that.

How interesting that Bloomberg is saying that re MOU, 'concerns over the economy' limited US negotiations.
tl;dr
US lost.

Iranian team: educated and highly experienced senior diplomats.

US team: a property developer and a man who says he doesn’t understand diplomatic protocols.

What can possibly go wrong

In spite of US claims that the SoH is open

https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/

That's because in Trump-land, planes fly using rubber bands.

"In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified army out of the revolutionary forces encamped around Boston and New York … The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown."

“Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.”

Remember when he said that ?

2019 he said it. He appears to have a problem with airplanes.

Donald Trump Claims 1775 Revolutionary Army 'Took Over Airports' | HuffPost UK News (huffingtonpost.co.uk)

From CNN, Rubio apparently has the job of negotiating with Israel to cease Lebanon attacks.
Vance's, given the order in which he mentioned the main tasks for Swiss meeting, are de-nuclearisation process and SoH.

I don't see success in either of their immediate futures.

Handy scapegoats. Maybe he'll anoint the one who does a slightly less worse job than the other?

I fear the jug of anointing is hidden in a place where the sun don't shine.

Ping. That's another coin into the brain bleach jar :-)

Why on earth would he salute ? Does he hold any rank ?

Well, that was a pre Trump discussion I recall. I am with you on civilians not saluting. But Trump likes it.

Att

‘Keir Starmer will resign as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. He failed badly on two very important subjects- IMMIGRATION AND ENERGY (OPEN NORTH SEA OIL!).
‘I wish him well! President DJT.’

The sage has spoken. So much for not interfering.

UK media is on a frenzy about Starmer here. First that he would announce a plan to leave. Today, that he will resign on Monday.
For his own good, and if he has a single brain cell himself, Starmer will resign tomorrow. He does not have the support of his own party.
His sin: getting tangled with Mandelson ( Epstein's friend and someone who will soon have to face court for disclosing sensitive information about UK assets to Epstein) and pushing contracts with Palantir for our Security and Health services (Palantir is financially related to Mandelson), in breach of the Parliamentary Ministerial code ( unrecorded, unofficial meetings).
There is thread after thread saying that the media hates Starmer. And many people do not like Starmer, as he is quite unpersonable. But I only see the above reasons for a full on sudden rebute, even by his own party.

Trump exchanges with Meloni are quite the thing to read.....
And the agreement, well the Iranians did make it to Switzerland. Bibi will try to interfere; we all knew that. But I think it is clear that Trump wants it sorted. I am a bit sorry for Rubio. He has a lot of work to do!

A DJT endorsement is enough to make even me, want to keep the current policy on drilling in the North Sea.😬