Does anyone believe Nicola Sturgeon?

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As per title, does anyone actually believe NS with her claims she had no idea her husband stole £400k, didn't notice the MANY luxury items just appearing around her home, and is a victim in his deceit?

Maybe. But her sexuality whether real or perceived is only one factor.
If you put up KD Lang up against Bradley Walsh in a singing competition, who do you think is going to win?

For goodness sake, she was his boss, she'd had warnings for SEVEN years it was not on, people resigned over the lack of transparency because they couldn't do their jobs.

She either knew, or didn't care because she thought she was untouchable.

Then she dumped him like a hot potato to try and save herself.

She's arrogant, vitriolic (look at how she treated Joanna Cherry, FFS) ruthless and so convinced of her own superiority she can't self-reflect.

She put rapists in with vulnerable women and actively worked to destroy women's rights.

Karma's a bitch, Nic

Nothing to do with separatists or unionists. That is something that you keep saying.

And it was @HumbleKatey who said: "because the truth of her same-sex relationship would cost her votes", so I am not the only one who thinks it at least may have cost her votes.

And my point is: I am just responding to other peoples' posts, that ok with you? @PhaedraTwo

I do to a point, and I can’t stand NS.

I don’t think she knew he was embezzling per se but as Joanna Cherry said she wasn’t curious enough. To some of the purchases and to the state of her party’s finances.

So many posters here who are completely missing the point. There are two separate things going on here.

1. Her husband was on the fiddle - yes it could be possible that she didn't know what he was spending. Separate bank accounts and all that.
2. She was ALSO the leader of the SNP and he was CEO. She was supposed to be over the accounts, signing them off. She refused to let others see the accounts when requested. She threatened those who asked. She didn't notice a motorhome on the balance sheet.

So you can believe that perhaps she didn't notice the fancy Montblanc pens and the 108 loo rolls. But she was hugely negligent and incompetent in the running of her party's finances.

Depends on your audience - but this is a sidetrack, so I'm going to leave our conversation here.

Exactly this

How did she fail to see the campervan?

Or the Jaguar?

Sure. For quality of voice I meant.
NS had significant skills as a politician. That's one of the reasons why she won so many votes. If she had come out she may have lost some, gained some or won the exact same amount. We will never know. But I suspect she would have lost some. She may have felt the same, but again, we'll never know.

Yes I can believe that she didn’t know. Because people do lie and hide things from their partners. My DM had no idea that my F was sexually abusing my DSis and me for years, and she’s a highly intelligent woman who ran a business for years.

I’m not saying that she definitely didn’t know. Because she could be lying too for all I know.

In terms of homophobia - Sturgeon relentlessly pushed an ideology that denies the existence of same sex attraction.

The motorhome was £140k. Also, how would you not notice four really expensive coffee machines, and shedloads of other top-of-the-range stuff coming into your house?

I do believe her when she says she didn't steal. But as someone else said, none of the possible scenarios look good for her.

. I would think a motorhome then was maybe £50-70k

He earned between £80 to £120k maximum - a sum she would have known, and probably had to approve.

And those are gross figures. After tax the motorhome, even on your figures was all or even more than his take home pay.

Apparently the police were furious that the COPFS didn’t charge Sturgeon in response to all the evidence they presented. The COPFS that was headed by a member of Sturgeon’s own Scottish Government’s cabinet.

And don't forget Murrell lent the SNP £100,000. Did she never wonder where that came from?

@LaliqueSaltGrinder ! Expecting more Murrell swag usernames now

It's amazing what people can fail to see when it suits them and their agenda. Remember, independence is like a cult - their leaders are beyond reproach, the faithful vote for them no matter what, and blind eyes are turned to all the failings.

Marvellous from John Crace this morning Nicola’s only crime was to love too much. And to not notice the Jaguar on the drive | John Crace | The Guardian

I don't believe her. If she was just his wife maybe, but not as his boss. I think she is going for plausible deniability and hoping people forget that she was responsible for signing off the accounts, preventing investigations into the missing money and vitriolically attacking people who had more morals than she did and resigned because the accounts didn't add up.

This is what I think - less sure about point 1 but think there are questions there.

But point 2 the party accounts bits and conflict of interest can't see how she's not reponsible there.

I’m not Scottish but I live in Scotland I sit on the fence re independence. IME Scots are very tolerant I don’t thst NS’s sexuality would be an issue.
The other thing I do know is that those who really support independence and those who really don’t support feel exceedingly strongly about and frankly they either group would vote in a Martian if they thought they would achieve their desire.
it is no coincidence that despite all that’s gone on and many are unhappy with how Scotland is being run the SNP after 19 years they still got significantly more seats than any other party by a long way and that pro independence MSPs are in the majority at Holyrood after the election in May. Independence is for many Scots a very important issue.

It certainly raises questions about how the list system works when it managed to allocate such a disproportionate number of seats to pro-independence parties who got considerably less votes than the pro-union parties.

I see that Wings is now suggesting that the money raised for a second referendum that was meant to be ring fenced for that cause - with Nicola Sturgeon responsible for
overseeing that ring fencing - was actually immediately used to repay a loan.

@NosnowontheScottishhills Scotland remains the only place in the UK where I have been told to go back to Poland by a man with a bad case of road rage. I'm not Polish and have never been to Poland but that is not the point. I'm just tired of hearing how tolerant the people of Scotland are when it wasn't always my experience.
It's the same with the Nordic countries. A myth has emerged about them that they are some kind of paradise when the truth is that like all countries, there's good aspects and not so good

And yes I get that independence is an important topic and that some people would vote for almost anyone promising independence. But it was the undecideds that those fighting for independence had to convince. They didn't want to damage the cause in any way and sadly having a lesbian as leader of the SNP might be enough to do that.

Poland is nice, I would’ve mind living there…

The undecideds would be much more put off by the SNPs mismanagement of Scotland than a lesbian leader.

She wasn't curious enough. Rubbish. She knew what was going on but decided to pretend she didnt have a clue. Which was nonsense as people asked and were bullied into silence.