How much do you people understand 25 get in benefits if they dont work?

[JacknDiane]

If they stay at home.?

Does anyone know?

I've no idea, but they certainly gave me the impression that I couldn't make a claim while I was living with my parents. Perhaps it was too soon after graduating or something, who knows? Anyway, at the time I signed up at a local recruitment agency and got temping work almost straight away as I already had some office experience.

A YP with no disabilities gets the approx £400 however many (not sure how many) are on PIP. That increases significantly what they get and if they’re on higher rate mobility they can swap that for a full expensed car. I appreciate that they’ll get PIP regardless if they are working or not.

So higher rate PIP and UC is worth £14.5k a year that’s 1200 a month. You’d have to earn just over £15k to get that. Why would you get a job if you’re living at home, gaming, getting your meals cooked,
no responsibilities? additionally if your claim predates April 2026 or if you have ‘severe conditions’ you get just shy of £19.5k, you’d need to earn £22k.

So potentially these YP can afford/choose not to work.

@measuretwicecutonce if someone is on a higher rate of PIP then they will have a disability that will probably make working hard/difficult.
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My daughter's boyfriend applied for over 1000 jobs while claiming UC. They were good applications because I proof read some of them and I recruit regularly so I know what I am doing. I also did mock interviews with him and he performed well. It took him 18 months to find a job and he only had three interviews in that time. He's currently doing two part time jobs and still hasn't found something in the field he is interested in. He volunteered in a food bank and did website work for free for local charities while looking.

The jobs are thin on he ground and the application numbers are overwhelming. This experience has battered his mental health and it hurts young people who are genuinely trying to get a foothold on a career ladder to be described as lazy and entitled by media outlets.

There are talented young people out there being treated really badly by the jobs market and it's horrible to watch.

Actually it wasn’t £140 a week. That was the job I got. I thought I was so well off!

@Needmorelegoi think that’s true for some but not all, higher rate is given for anxiety. The country annoy afford that level of benefits for someone who simply feels they cannot go to work. They need help/medication. I know it’s unpopular but it always amazes me how people are fine to go on holiday, to the pub etc but going to work is impossible.

Just to confirm, I do know someone like this, it’s not uncommon despite the denials on MN,

But that is my point, many people want to live an undemanding life. Whether that’s because they recognise the social contract is broken and working 40 hours a week for 40 years doesn’t pay off like it used to, or because they see social media influencers and the like making a living outside the rat race and want something similar, is neither here nor there. This is where we are now as a society. Grinding for decades in an unfulfilling career has fallen out of fashion.

Have you ever applied for PIP?
I have on behalf of my daughter.
It's not that easy to get it.
It really isn't.

Which is absolutely fair enough. If someone wants cheap, they will pay for cheap. If someone wants qualified they will pay for qualified

@Needmorelegowe keep being told that but I’m afraid I don’t believe it. I think it varies, difficult for some and not others. The whole system needs to be addressed, we cannot afford it.

The housing element isn't reduced until the "child" is 21. And the reduction is made regardless of the 21 year olds income.

Nearly half of NEETS don't claim any benefits.

What the fuck

The number of young people who medically retire themselves forever due to claiming ‘anxiety’ is a huge mess that Labour don’t have the balls to get a grip of. It’s utterly criminal.

Well clearly it isn’t as the figures are increasing and increasing .

This is such a naive post from someone who clearly hasn't a clue how the world works these days.

Nobody is paying teens /youngsters money who knock on the door offering to do jobs - nobody has spare cash for that!! I occasionally get lads knocking my door asking for this sort of work - mowing the lawn, pressure washing the drive etc - never once have I said yes, I can't afford to be paying kids to do jobs for me. I get a bit annoyed really with parents encouraging their kids to go knocking door asking to be paid to do these sorts of unskilled jobs, pay your kids yourself for these pocket money jobs!!

I think some foolish people imagine these youngsters will be seen as 'grafters' when in reality nobody wants to pay teens for this stuff.

And jobs done for cash for neighbours isn't helping them get decent work experience and references for their cv.

The issue is that these days retail and hospitality hire far fewer staff - self checkouts mean less staff in supermarkets and shops and these days loads of cafes have qr code apps to order - less need for waiting staff.

Don't understand the title/question. Also dont understand why some people post, then just dissappear! Annoying.

And so they should surely?

I think the OP just wanted to wind up and watch 'em go. So many threads on this, yet young people are desperate to work applying for hundreds of jobs, that's the issue - there is very little work for 18-25 year olds. Retail and hospitality jobs have declined, hard to even get work as a cleaner. Why can't people get their heads round it? The UC paid now is just the equivalent of dole. Its a much loved narrative here isn't it, that everyone who is looking for work is a scrounger.

It is very difficult to be turned down for job after job. It saps confidence. It did in the 1970s and it does now. I was once refused an application form on the day when the local paper, with the ad, came out, because 'we only had 50 and they've all been spoken for so you are too late'. If 50 or 100 people apply for one job it isn't possible for 49 or 99 to be completely unsuitable but it feels like it. Even untalented people are battered by unemployment if they are the sort who do indeed want work. I finished my working life not doing what I'd set out to do and with some messy temporary and casual years in between and my only advice to all these young people is to try not to let it get them down too much and to hold on in there.
What I actually intended to ask on this thread was whether UC is paid per month or per every four weeks. State pension is paid every 4 weeks but maybe UC is paid every month to fall in line with the way most jobs are paid.

@Twisterlolliesi would certainly rather spend my days watching Netflix than work 40 hours a week - and I’m not afraid to admit it! 😄

Life isn’t all about work.

Yes, that's why the title of the benefit was changed from Unemployment Benefit to Job Seekers' Allowance, or certainly one of the reasons. Presumably JSA has now metamorphosed into UC.

That’s a fascinating statistic. So they are not claiming disability (no PIP), and not looking for work (no UC). I suppose if their parents are happy to pay for them then fair enough. I suppose some of them will be volunteering, or writing the next hit novel or screenplay, or involved in the arts or sport. And some might just be stuck in their rooms playing video games.

Why do you think they aren't looking for work? You know you are allowed to look for work without claiming uc don't you?.