How much do you people understand 25 get in benefits if they dont work?

[JacknDiane]

If they stay at home.?

Does anyone know?

Are you encouraging cash in hand work from unqualified workers?
Hmmm 🤔

They are meant to job search for 35 hours a week and provide evidence of this. Some work coaches are stricter than others. They may be asked to go on courses to improve their chances of finding work etc.

My dd went on the dole after university. She got £75 a week I think. She used it to pay for bus fares mainly but she also got a pair of shoes and a shirt for interviews.

She had an appointment every week with targets and she had to add to her diary all of the jobs she applied for. They also encouraged her to start volunteering in a a field related to what she wants to do through some sort of scene.which she did. It’s not something that she would have just been able to apply for without the scheme.

She also had sessions with the National Career service where they helped her with changing her CV for every application and with her applications. She got a job at Next after about six weeks and then she got a job in her chosen field after four months. She could use her experience in the volunteering at from Next to apply for this job. Now she does both jobs. The amount of help and support she got really surprised me to be honest.

When she started at Next she no longer got the Money but she did still have the appointments and support. The appointments went to online.

It's good to hear she got help, as most think the help is insufficient.

I did my first degree as a mature student in the mid to late 1980s. I could have signed on but preferred to do call centre work as there were plenty to choose from in my university city. Most students signed on. Others did temping. There were plenty of student type jobs back in the 80s and 90s. Sadly this is no longer the case.

Those suggesting people are lazy are ignorant. (Or bots probably)

You could claim JSA or income support once you’ve finished uni. There may have been a buffer where your loan or grant was meant to cover summer.
I claimed in the 90s after graduating. £140 a week. Going to sign on and showing what id applied for. Joined a job club which was v well run.

So? There is nothing wrong with being paid cash. As long as it is declared as income. It is unlikely you’d exceed the starting rate for tax unless if all you did was pick up occasional work mowing lawns.

I agree that they need a job but the market is shit now. I work in a supermarket and we have hardly hired anyone permanently in the last few years. Our shop hours have been cut so much. Yes they should be trying to find work but you can apply for 100 jobs and have no luck. Its not easy atm.

So someone who did an apprenticeship or other training scheme to actually be a qualified gardener/garden maintenance person as their actual career will not be able to get a job because some cheapskate is paying cash in hand to someone not actually qualified.

Why were you laughed at? I used to claim JSA when living with my parents, would have been similar time as you?

I admit I used to be part of the “young people need to buckle down and get a job” rather than claiming benefits but I’ve come to realise that it is really, really hard for both grads and non higher educated young people these days. It’s easy to say they ‘just’ need to find work but even where I live (London) young people are struggling in what should be an abundant job market. I graduated 25 years ago and walked into a job as did most of my friends. It’s a different story now.

I was a student during that period and you could not claim dole
I know if only one person who was able to but she was transferring from a masters degree to a Diploma so not considered during that summer period, between the two courses, to be in long term education

I’m guessing they don’t actually have young adults trying to find work, any work. It’s utterly shit whether you have zero qualifications, a masters degree or something in between.

I was at Uni 1983-6. I was also able to claim housing benefit in my second year, but I think they stopped that in ‘85. It
makes me smile that the benefit office was recently converted to student accommodation!

My local Job Centre was like a school reunion without the booze when term finished.

NB I did do some really dreadful temp jobs in the summers too.

I can see how a 20 year-old may chose the £340 a month topped up with cash-in-hand work over a soul-destroying minimum wage job in a call centre.

There’s a very strong desire, particularly prevalent in Gen Z and Gen Alpha, to have autonomy over one’s time (fueled by social media influencer culture) which the benefits + odd jobs for cash scenario offers.

It’s wine time somewhere in the world.

The gap between leaving education and finding a full time job is why many under 25’s need it, not because they are lazy. They’d be lucky to walk into a full time job from the day they leave college.

For example, in my situation I work full time but my wage is quite low so I’ve had UC to top up while my children are under 18. Once they leave education any support ends at the end of August so unless they’ve found a full time job between July and August I can no longer afford to support them as my own wage is barely enough to cover my expenses, let alone that another adult.

Claiming UC means they can afford to get to interviews and any personal things such as clothing and food they might need which I can no longer afford to buy for them plus a bit towards the utilities they are using like electric and heating.

And why do you think there are so few entry level jobs?

Totally agree with you, but it’s universal so the 20 year-old living at home rent-free with relatively affluent parents can claim £340 a month and top it up with cash-in-hand work DJ’ing in local bars and festivals (for example).

I should add that I can understand young people taking advantage of this to avoid going into mind-numbing minimum wage jobs (not that there are many of these jobs available these days). It’s a completely different time than when I was 20. There are fewer opportunities and the social contract is completely broken.

You must have missed the headline item on the news yesterday. I will share it though I suspect the facts will be of little consequence to you. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/clypw8gyn18t?app-referrer=deep-link

Triangulating in to establish a correct date here … I was at uni 90 to 93 and my sibling 89-92. You were ineligible for benefits. You were liable for poll tax though for some of that period!

I do remember being asked on the street if I was final year and then being directed to a temporary office to sign on. I was surprised and delighted to get some cash - I was even more surprised and delighted last year when I checked my NI record, to see that I got an NI credit for that year. I’ve also never claimed a penny since.

Honestly most of them wouldn’t be able to say what the social contract is.

Many people would rather live an undemanding life of Netflix rather than work 40 hours a week for more money.

The number of posters on here with teens who never leave the house attest to this

This!!!!
Utterly scandalous

Or help towards transport fares to get to job interviews/training sessions.......