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If you plan on voting Reform/ Restore, what could Labour do to win your vote?

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SixtySevenLabubus · 27/05/2026 15:34

I am politically homeless but will vote Labour in the next election purely to keep Reform/ Restore out.

For those planning on voting Reform/ Restore, what would Labour have to do to win your vote? I ask as I will be campaigning for Labour and want to work on what the counter arguments will be.

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MrListerSir · 28/05/2026 08:47

Does it matter, OP? Labour will not do anything that's really needed in this country, which is why they are losing voters by the day. They have no hope at the next election, it wouldn't matter if it was in 10 years time. People voted Labour as a protest vote against Conservative and will vote Reform as a protest against Labour.

But, since you asked:

Prioritise women's safety (and stop calling men women)
Zero tolerance on crime
Crack down hard on illegal immigration
More funding for schools
Dramatically cut the welfare bill
Support British Farming
Tax cuts for businesses

You can scream these things at Starmer but it won't make any difference at all. Labour are done, OP.

Vivienne1000 · 28/05/2026 08:50

Help young people get into work
Reduce interest rate on student loans to a minimal amount.
Stop threatening to tax ISAs, land, just about everything
Make working hard pay
Reduce the benefit bill. We cannot afford it.
Stop threatening to means test the State Pension.
Really grow the economy so we can reduce the tax bill and increase personal tax allowances.
Put more money into education.
Help those going out to work. No taxing per mile on electric cars.
Abolish inheritance tax
No Benefits for anyone coming to the UK until you have worked for 5 years.

SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 13:41

Splooterer · 27/05/2026 17:20

There's absolutely nothing Labour could do to make me vote for them. They're finished as a party.

Out of interest, who will you be voting for?

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SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 13:41

MrListerSir · 28/05/2026 08:47

Does it matter, OP? Labour will not do anything that's really needed in this country, which is why they are losing voters by the day. They have no hope at the next election, it wouldn't matter if it was in 10 years time. People voted Labour as a protest vote against Conservative and will vote Reform as a protest against Labour.

But, since you asked:

Prioritise women's safety (and stop calling men women)
Zero tolerance on crime
Crack down hard on illegal immigration
More funding for schools
Dramatically cut the welfare bill
Support British Farming
Tax cuts for businesses

You can scream these things at Starmer but it won't make any difference at all. Labour are done, OP.

But do people really think that Reform/ Restore will fix the issue?

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jollygoose · 07/06/2026 13:45

There is simply nothing labour could do to make me vote for them ever again

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 07/06/2026 14:05

SixtySevenLabubus · 27/05/2026 15:45

Why?

How can that be a real question?

Just how?

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 07/06/2026 14:06

@SixtySevenLabubus also you're the one campaigning labour

Shouldn't you be able to tell us what the good things are?

Treetopssofee · 07/06/2026 14:08

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SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 14:22

jollygoose · 07/06/2026 13:45

There is simply nothing labour could do to make me vote for them ever again

Who will you vote for instead??

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SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 14:23

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 07/06/2026 14:06

@SixtySevenLabubus also you're the one campaigning labour

Shouldn't you be able to tell us what the good things are?

I am trying to first understand what people want from Labour.

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Treetopssofee · 07/06/2026 14:24

SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 14:23

I am trying to first understand what people want from Labour.

So ENGAGE with those people and answer their questions in return 🙄 if you want them to keep opening up to you!

It's a two way dialogue

TiredShadows · 07/06/2026 16:06

More likely to vote Independent than Reform/Restore - I already live in a Reform area where they do far less when in power than they did before that.

I do know quite a few very frustrated Labour voters who are looking elsewhere though and of the policies they already have, but haven't acting on, these are the ones that I hear most:

  • Increase stamp duty charges on non-UK residents, as a first step to dealing with the issue of non-UK residents and companies buying up housing, land, and other assets.
  • Strengthen rules on donation to political parties, Enforce restrictions on ministers lobbying for companies they used to regulate, End links between Minister access and inside track on public contracts as first steps towards dealing with lack of trust in political parties and politicians.
  • Introduce mandatory professional standards on vetting checks for police officers. This should already be there.
  • Improvements to justice in rape and sexual offences crimes. It's a disgrace we've parts of the country where people are waiting over 5 years for a trial for sex offences.
  • Upgrade the national transmission infrastructure
  • Energy Independence
  • Reintroduce the socio-economic duty in the Equality Act
  • Reform gambling regulations - the constant advertising of one of the most destructive, addictive non-substances is ridiculous.

Policies I'd like them to introduce:
Digital Independence. We've given so much of our digital infrastructure and work to non-UK, largely US, corporations, bringing our sensitive data under US laws and restricting our ability to challenge the US.

Rebuild our court systems back better, as others have already mentioned in different ways, which will be needed to bring improvements to justice in rape and sexual offences crimes. I don't get why they don't holler from the rooftops about the Tories having closed so many courts, cut the court service to the bone, and actively encouraged neglect of court buildings leading to losing court days to buildings issues. Instead they follow the Tory line that the backlog is about COVID - it increased it, but it was already terrible well before that. The Leveson Inquiry touched on the many ways to do this, but they and the media got so stuck on the jury situation (which is barely a blip in the delays courts have) that most of suggestions have been lost in the long grass.

Get rid of 'private partners' in immigration that lead to a financial incentive to increasing immigration. There are all these questions around why here are so many promises and changes to immigration law that seem to only lead to more immigration - that's where we're at.

Stop the surveillance state.

Cut the civil service numbers, all the extra people employed during Brexit are still there. Also cut the civil service pensions.

Reduce the number of civil servants and cut the amount paid into their pensions. Those on the lowest bands get paid far more than they would outside.

For some departments, this is very true and part of the lack of trust. In others, not so much - and it seems the areas people want most (court system, crime) are the ones that took the biggest cuts. There are parts of the civil service where the lowest band is paid at or barely above minimum wage, that were cut to the bone under the Tories that Labour has largely maintained and where the extra people during Brexit were agency staff that don't have access to civil service pensions and are expected to leave.

Friendlygingercat · 07/06/2026 16:16

Raise the single person c tax allowance to the 50% it should be
Get rid of all this bloody woke nonsense
Get rid of this green technology nonsense
Reserve social housing for British born
Reserve benefits for British born
Stop the bloody boats

IDoHaveACrystalBall · 07/06/2026 17:04

SixtySevenLabubus · 07/06/2026 14:23

I am trying to first understand what people want from Labour.

Any comments on our suggestions so far?

Also, what people want is what they want from any government

I'll add a couple of things already excellent suggestions - can I emphasise there about getting rid of net zero and sorting out our energy product production? We have so many resources that we're not using?

Why can we not have an NHS that functions a bit like a Taiwan healthcare? Pay a small amount every month minimum government meddling few steps to take - a more economic system without the gigantic cost there are loads of economic models that we can look at because we're the only people still dragging around the bloated bureaucracy nightmare that is the NHS and just pouring money into it

Maybe the NHS has to do less but at the moment the very basics are that if you break a bone, you could be waiting several hours to get attention

Also, we recognise that especially gifted or talented children need special attention in order to maximise their potential. That's why we put them under special

needs.

So can Labour finally admit that the decision to scrap grammar schools was a disaster and bring them back in?

Paravion011 · 07/06/2026 17:39

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Treetopssofee · 07/06/2026 17:51

Also would vote to keep Labour out.

Dbank · 07/06/2026 18:14

You pose an excellent question, and in short I would say they should have focused on growth and reduce public spending drastically.

Labour squandered their majority on policies driven by an unachievable socialist idealism, and are now borrowing billions a month to keep us a float.

Blaming the (fictional) 20 billion black hole, (i.e. money that we didn't spend) on the Tories is even more ridiculous now we're borrowing over 24 Billion a month.

The message sent by the local elections, couldn't be any clearer, and Labour's response is delusional.

I expect this to end as it did with Labour in '76 with brutal constraints forced on us by the IMF, a GE and a violent swing to the Right.

durdledoris · 07/06/2026 18:44

Raise the personal tax allowance

hattie43 · 07/06/2026 18:47

I would never vote Labour. They won’t stop until we’re all penniless . Tax payers are sick of working hard and having nothing left . The scandals never end . It feels like Labour know they’ll only have one term so are personally milking it for as many personal gains as they can . They were going to reform leasehold yet every meaningful issue remains unresolved.

NotNowSandra · 07/06/2026 19:04

Literally nothing. They’ve burnt that bridge. I think many former Labour voters feel like that too

MidnightMeltdown · 07/06/2026 19:26

Not planning to vote reform, but I’m willing to vote for any party that raises income tax thresholds. I want to see a party that actually supports working people and not just benefits claimants. Would like to see the 2 child benefit cap reinstated and significant welfare reforms to tackle the enormous number of people on disability.

ChangeyNameyforthis · 07/06/2026 19:27

I don’t care if I’m taxed more, and our services improve.

For me, Labour need to;

a) Shake up and invest in the police force. The events of the past week have made this a priority in my mind.

b) Urgently address illegal immigration

c) Sort out our young people who are NEET

d) Halt immigration for a period of time whilst we work out what we need, and only give visas for those jobs. I don’t care what anyone says, every other person my company has recruited lately is from India, and they are taking jobs away from young British who have applied. It’s not right.

TallSturdyGirls · 07/06/2026 19:29

Lahsania · 27/05/2026 17:22

I haven’t seen anyone in the Labour party that seems authentically to care about Britain as Rupert Lowe does. It’s the fact that he respects Britain that moves people, in this time where we are so maligned and used as doormats.

Rupert Lowe only cares about Rupert Lowe. He is vile.

DrCoconut · 07/06/2026 19:43

Friendlygingercat · 07/06/2026 16:16

Raise the single person c tax allowance to the 50% it should be
Get rid of all this bloody woke nonsense
Get rid of this green technology nonsense
Reserve social housing for British born
Reserve benefits for British born
Stop the bloody boats

My step dad has lived here for over 40 years. He worked and paid his dues and is now retired. Do you seriously think he doesn't deserve his pension (that he paid NI to qualify for) because he wasn't born here? And what about the fact that his wife is British? Are they a British or a foreign household for your proposed system?

JenniferBooth · 07/06/2026 20:10

Pickledonion1999 · 27/05/2026 15:58

I'm not going to be voting reform under any circumstances but labour seriously need to start prioritizing young people before it's too late. Few job opportunities, massive student debt and high housing costs. They throw everything at older people whilst neglecting the young. The amount that some older people are getting in benefits is crazy. I've been working in this area and have seen it. The media keeps talking about a lost generation but this is fast becoming the reality.

Surely its the other way around and older ppl having to stay in jobs because they keep putting the state pension age up means there are less jobs available for young people.