Labour isn't Working - Thread 33

[Nuthatch26]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Just listened to Ian King. He said the debt interest payment (over £10bn) was the highest ever.

Yes that makes sense. Usual Labour deflection and blame others by Peter Kyle. Had to turn it off too annoying.

Oh for heaven’s sake, what are you worrying about? This government clearly has everything under control, there’s no risk of financial crisis. It’s very obviously all the fault of the right-wing media and Chinese bot farms that we think borrowing is spiralling upwards and tax rises are killing any chance of employment and growth. 🙄

Come on, just get ready to jump on the bus with the kids and go to Alton Towers. The savings will be huge. It’ll be like Labour’s version of a free ticket to visit Willy Wonka’s factory. 🙄 🙄

There's a lot of that about. Lots of, what do you mean hospitality has been crippled, my coffee shop in a wealth enclave is jumping and my mate just bought a new car and I have seen a place be refurbished - so everything is fine right? - JUST BE OPTIMISTIC 😤

The labour lot are fantastic at gaslighting themselves and outraged that others won't follow suit. See also, twaw.

It really does feel this mental rn.

The govt have been pretending that everything is fine for months, even though other countries were mitigating for what's coming down the tracks.
Now we have a deranged looking Reeves offering a summer of fun? Wtf!

Grant Fitzner, the ONS’s chief economist, said: “ Borrowing this month was substantially higher than in April last year and although receipts increased compared with April 2025, this was more than offset by higher spending on benefits and other costs.”

https://www.thetimes.com/article/0b29793c-c6d6-4344-aa44-a831dc150716?shareToken=0b15bc3077a9862366816389cb056d4a

Kyle sounded rather annoyed someone asked him about the figures at all. Pesky economic facts getting in the way.

The labour lot are fantastic at gaslighting themselves and outraged that others won't follow suit. See also, twaw.

I’ve given up on Labour (and the Greens and the Libs) doing the right thing on trans. It’s so patently a simple issue of ‘no, you’re a man or a woman because that’s how you were born’ that at least 98.546% of the country agree on, that I think the left has been in the grip of a collective madness which can only be solved by common sense over time. Like believing in witchcraft or leprechauns.

What did Kyle think he was going to be asked? Did he want to just waffle on about attraction tickets and pretend all is well?

I think so. They probably feel it’s been a ‘good comms week’ going by the flooding of IG with various posts (I don’t follow).

Bit of a blow that debt servicing is the highest ever. That’s tax payer funding just lost to that.

The govt will change the system for electing mayors in England by 19th June. I wonder why🤔🙄
Changing from FPTP to supplementary vote, where voters rank preferred candidate.

I always nod along to your posts. Exactly what I think!

Oh, and @Nuthatch26, disappointingly few pappers on my dog runs Weds-Fri! 🤷‍♀️🤣

Damn.
You need to get some shorter shorts Fluffy 🤣🤣

Funny you should mention that...I've been too warm in leggings so I'm trading for shorts tomorrow. I'll update on the papps! 🤣🤣

The theory is that Labour will hold on to more mayoralties on second preferences. Of course that only works if they're in the top two...

More broadly there's a belief that this will disadvantage Reform - Labour are doing all sort of interesting things as part of Operation Stop Nigel - but if Reform get enough votes, it might not matter.

Someone should really tell them that we already had a referendum on the supplementary vote, we said no, and they can't just keep sneaking it into sub-national elections.

It may do the opposite if votes go to Restore and Reform second.

🤞

Interesting to see Badenoch gain in approval and not just popularity. I know that Burham has less negative voting on this metric but I think that's unsurprising really given he's insulated from the stink of recent national governance. And you can see that already in the volume of people who think 'neither better nor worse' and 'don't know'.
Room to be optimistic in the long run, I think.

Khan?

I listened to an MP in the house of commons. Norway have applied for a further seven licences in the north sea for oil and gas. They'll get this and Wallace Milliband will have to accept we'll buy it. When we could have done it ourselves.

Interesting that there's direct flights between Aberdeen and Norway daily of British oil and gas folks who now work for Norway.

It's a political joke.

Indeed, though I don't see the Great Yarmouth First Expanded Universe being a big factor in many areas.

Sadiq Khan is quite beatable, so I wonder if the supplementary vote move has him in mind.

If the Tories run Cleverly, which I think they will, he'd give Khan a run for his money and probably pick up Reform second preferences, but I don't know if Green voters would preference him.

Good news, thanks @Upstartled
Burnham's ratings won't last long if he does become PM.

The Makerfield by election is on the 18th June. If Burnham wins, there will need to be a mayoral election in GM soon after.