Would you say non-white people born & raised in England are English?

[rack909]

Just thought I should hear people’s perspective on this.

Some say it’s an ethnicity, some say it’s a nationality & others say it’s both of them.

I personally think it’s both a Nationality & ethnic group.

If someone says they are from England, they are denoting their nationality as English even if they don’t say it outright. It’s the same thing.

There's a difference to only being somewhere temporarily and spending your entire life somewhere.

As i said, straight out of the Tommy Robinson playbook.

Really? How many generations in England do we need to prove before we are allowed to be English?

Bloody Romans eh

🙄

I say again, the Anglo-Saxons were mass migrants into the British Isles, who changed the language and culture forever. Do you have a problem with that?

Indeed, do you identify as a Celt, Romano-British (some of whom were of African ethnicities) or are you of Anglo-Saxon immigrant descent? Or are you maybe of Viking immigrant descent?

Do you disagree with the British Empire, which changed the ethnicity, culture and language of countries it colonised?

Ah. The Great Replacement Theory rears its ugly head.

Which “ethnic group” are we? Viking, Norman, Celt, Saxon, Jute, Roman, Dutch, Jute, Angle, Briton, Pict???

Yes I would. For many their heritage will be important, for others it won't be.

Absolutely. And MN HQ apparently thinks this is ok. I’m appalled frankly that this is allowed.

The Great Replacement theory?

Amazing how many MNers know conflicted English-Japanese people.

As Elizabeth 1st would say - I have no desire to make a window in to men's souls.

Or just MYOB.

I'm Asian. Born and bred in the UK and I'm proud to call myself British. British Asian. English too.

The numbers in the username are a bit suspect

You've been totally brainwashed! Why I'm earth would you think that most people in those countries want to come here? They don't! They could have done by now if they wanted but they haven't! Most people in India are happy there! You do realise it's not a barren hell hole or anything!

There’s no such thing as an English passport.

If they're a British citizen from England, then... yes. Obviously. 🤔

Yes, its a far right bot. And MN HQ are seemingly ok with the nonsense and offence caused to non-white MN users.

Yes my sister is black. I am white. We both came out of the same vagina. We are both English.

What is so strange about that? Do you live in some ethnically pure backwater?

Without being too specific, I work at a large tecnology park in the Midlands with a very large Japanese workforce. It is not unusual at all to see or be friends with a Japanese national.

It’s reminiscent of the football troll’s work - should they support England or not. They have even used similar usernames. Seems that have evolved…..

DH was born in England to Scottish parents, was raised and schooled in Scotland, and has a distinct Scottish accent. Is he English?

Who in earth gave you that 8% stat? Guess again! Just checked Google and it's 85 to 90%!
And no, child free by choice people are accruing in numbers and we won't breed just because racists believe in daft fantasies.

Yes they are English. I know what you mean though. Would I see a white person born and bred in Japan as Japanese? Yet I have no mental stumbling block in seeing a black (or Asian origin) person as English (or British).

Yes

MN HQ seemingly ok with far right replacement theory rhetoric. But if more report then maybe they will realise just how deeply offensive this is to non-white MN users. Appalled to be affronted by this on a usually ‘safe’ space from overt racism.

Not legally, because England has no legal citizenship. Not culturally, because of mass multiculturalism. Not ethnically, because millions of people identify with other ethnic groups.

So only according to your feelings?

Ultimately, all of this hysteria derives from the racist inability to accept that Europeans (in this case the English) have distinct ethno-national identities that are very obviously threatened by mass immigration.

We have had Islamist terrorists born and bred here. We have ethnic enclaves comprised of tens of thousands of people that were born here. We have recently had a Prime Minister born here who claims India is “where I’m from.” In a world of mass immigration, place of birth is increasingly meaningless.