What a Circus - Keir Starmer

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Just turned on sky news. Press pack outside Downing Street yelling at Minister as they walk in. They're not answering. It's quite a spetacle. Bit like thumbs down in an ancient Rome arena. Apparently Streeting has launched a coup against PM. What a drama.

I’m sick of them all. 👎 to all of them.

Can't say I disagree. Latest is KS has said he's not resigning and he must be challenged. What a selfish pratt.

Starmer is right not to resign, its the last thing we bloody need. Ridiculous hysteria.

Starmer is crap but I hope he stays until the next elections. I pray to god for a miracle and some capable politician comes up before the next elections. Save the U.K. from its downfall and bring people together. This country deserves better and have the potential to go back to a much better place.

We don't need a revolving door of PMs. We need stability. What Starmer needs is an Alistair Campbell to make the messaging clearer, louder and consistent.

The current government is being blamed for macroeconomic issues caused by the current geopolitical situation: the wars in Ukraine and Iran and Trump's shift in policy towards supporting Europe and NATO in our defence.

If Starmer stays we will not have stability. He is making the Labour Party unelectable, as seen by the elections last week. He needs to go so that the Labour Party can get back in touch with it’s voters, or we will end up with more Reform MP’s.

Who would you like to see replace him?

Why do you think more instability is the way forward?

This!

What is all this nonsense.

The country voted right at the local election.

So Labour wants to oust their elected leader with a mandate and go more left against mandate? What the fuck are they on about.

It’s a guarantee to hand the country to reform. And Reform might actually be the only party in recent decades to actually finish a term without acting like little bitches. If that happens then Jesus Christ. They could absolutely ruin the country.

PLEASE BE COMPETENT! This is not a school playground. THIS IS FUCKING SERIOUS! PUT THE WHATSAPP DOWN and GO DO SOME ACTUAL WORK!

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The elections show us that Starmer being PM is what will hand the country to Reform. We can’t keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

This is simply Farage et al copying Trumpist style populist politics. The divisive messages themselves are amplified millions of times on social media by unhelpful Russian, Chinese and North Korean troll farms. That’s why Keir Starmer is facing a challenge now.

No. You are wrong

The local elections are a warning shot. People vote to express sentiment with less risk. There are people who would vote reform at locals but not at general level.

Its a sentiment to the right.

I am a swing voter. I have never voted against the majority. Never got an election result wrong.

I guarantee you if labour moves more left now then that’s a 100% win for reform in the next election.

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO DELUDED! Honestly it boils my brain. It is soo clear. So ducking clear!

I really hope they all grow the fuck up.

Let’s be honest, the only reason they are currently jockeying for position is because they see it as a personal opportunity. It’s got NOTHING to do with what’s good for the country.

I didn’t vote Labour at the GE (despite doing so previously) but still think they should just bloody well get on with it and see it through.

Bunch of bloody muppets, the lot of them.

The country didn't vote right at the local elections. There's a huge chunk of the electorate for whom there were no local elections as they weren't due this year. The Labour Party still has control of a majority of local councils. I don't actually know what the turnout out was last week, but let's not make things up.

Clearly those elections held last week show that a lot of those who voted chose not to vote Labour or Conservative and voted Reform, LibDem or Green instead.

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Whilst you’re right, he will be ousted by his own party. He ought to go now to save all this unnecessary drama.

Is it more hysterical because of the social media?
It used to be just tabloids causing problems but this is a new wave of absolutely ridiculous drama llamaring hysteria.

No, I don't vote Labour. But the talent pool of potential PMs is literally so shit.

Reform/Restore/the right wing media all want Starmer to resign.

I wonder if that's because they think it will make Labour stronger and more likely to win the next election. Or could it be something else?

I'm not sure what you mean. It's nearly always cock up rather than conspiracy.

Why would the far right, etc want the Labour Party to be stronger at the next general election?

Or do you mean they want to destabilise the Labour Party? Which is far more likely.

He's tone deaf.

Obviously he has different views on immigration to Reform (he was an immigrant rights lawyer ffs) but the people have voted for reform in local elections as a protest. They cannot voice their upset at the way labour are dealing with this situation in any other way. The amount of people switching from Labour to reform should be a wake up call to Labour but instead Starmer doubles down and makes a speech about 4 million Britons acting 'unbritish' for wanting to be put first by their own government.

I didn't vote but 99.9% of reform voters are not far right, in the same way you will have the odd far left nutter. Most are just normal, working, British people who feel forgotten about.

My next door neighbour is lovely. She really is but this is my own lived experience. I have 2 children and work 35 hours, I get a very small top up from UC and am struggling to the point I have had to stop using my car everyday and have used foodbanks.

My neighbour is from Somalia and came here 6 years ago with 2 children. She has had 3 more children since arriving here. She doesn't work. She gets full benefits, rent included. Her husband doesn't work either.
This is not hearsay, this is information she has given me.

It is upsetting and frustrating to work so hard and get no where. My rent has been raised. I have a private landlord. I could lose my home at any time. I have no security. No way to get ahead because the cost of everything has shot up.

Why can't I get some of the help she gets? Why doesn't she have to work? Or her husband?

I just don't understand the system and that doesn't make me racist.

So the country is sick of Labour under Starmer, but it’s only two years since it was sick of the tories under Sunak,maybe the reality is people are just sick of politics full stop. I’m no fan of Labour, but Starmer, dull though he might be, seems to have tried to do things that would make the country better, shame his back benches don’t agree with him

100% this. I wish they'd stop buggering about and grow up. They need to get to grips with sorting out the issues that are bothering and affecting people instead of this nonsense. We definitely do not need a new PM, we need a government who knows what they're doing and s change of leader isn't going to deliver that.

Anyone else getting a bit nervous about the economy?

Apparently the markets are tumbling - worse than they were under Liz Truss.

Is Starmer sacrificing the economy so he can stay in power for a few more days?!

Agreed - but the least stable thing right now is sticking with Starmer.

Wes Streeting is the stability candidate.

The problem with Andy Burnham is that he will only come in after too much damage has been done.