Anyone else uneasy about the unanswered questions after the shooting?

[Catpuss66]

Is it me but I find very odd that JD Vance was rescued first, but not Trump he ended up on his knees. Find these attempted assassinations very suspect. We never know much about the shooters. Well this one is from California presume he wants to stick that to Newsome. Political violence should never be encouraged or condoned.

Well, it’s a lot of unsuccessful assassination attempts for one person. 🙄 Security for these types of events is usually absolutely flawless as it has to be. Lot of mistakes being made for someone very concerned with security and militarism is all I’ll say about that.

"uneasy...odd... suspect"
Spell it out.
Say what you mean.

The whole thing was odd. I watched it live and thought it was part of the Mentalism act.🤣🤣🤣🙈

Another diversionary tactic by Trump.

Reminded me of one of the scenes from.Godfather 3. I wonder if that's where he got the idea?
And at the very venue where the Regan assasination attempt was, just to add a bit of extra drama.

It feels like made up theatre tbh

Like the time Trump got shot in the ear and his ear magically grew back? 😂.

They have a suspect caught red handed. He will go to trial and then to prison. Do you think they found someone stupid enough to agree to pretend to try to assassinate the POTUS and take the rap for it? How much money would someone want for that to be worth doing?

And the last bloke was shot dead. Do you think he knew that was going to be part of the deal when he agreed to be a fake assassin?

Wasn't Vance 'rescued first' because he's a fit flexible man of 40 and was quicker on his feet - Trump took a bit longer to get moving because he's 79 and a bit stiff and creaky?

These are honestly the only reasons I believe it.

I was thinking about it earlier and there are countries in which I could believe that someone might be threatened or blackmailed to play that role.

I don’t believe that’s the case here.

And the shooter was shot dead. Some amenable and accommodating stuntman he was.

Do you seriously think DS would stand still while some kid shot at him from a great distance, so long as the intention was just to graze his ear or something? Come on now.

Odd that the crowd didn’t really move (in the clip that I saw). They looked but I would imagine that I would be terrified.
Maybe the director didn’t shoot action loudly enough.

In the videos vance is the one immediately approached and removed, trump was not even approached by security until vance was already on his way out.

However, we don't know the background to this. Possibly those were vances own hired security and they acted faster than trumps security. Equally perhaps there had been previous threats sent to vance that meant he was red flagged as a high risk target?

I'd also imagine that given how pro gun the trump administration is it must be quite difficult to properly secure events.

In the video clips it does look as though a security guy runs straight to Vance and ushers him away quite a bit of time before anyone gets to Trump, which is a bit odd. You'd think Trump would be the top concern for the security team.

I don’t think I’d move much other than sliding under the table in the circumstances. Running for the door could increase your risk of being shot.

They each have specifically assigned agents. So Vance’s were either closer to him than Trumps were or just better/quicker. They have to protect their person, not run to another person. I assume there may be some exception, ie all Trumps agents have been killed.

Honestly, it's only just happened and reactions to a shooting threat event are not going to go in perfect order where everything happens like it's 'supposed to', so no, I'm not uneasy.

FWIW, I don't think any of the attempts are set-ups, it's because the man is a piece of shit and also a lot of his fans are gun nuts so any attempt is as likely to come from his own side as anyone else.

I think the one that got his ear (apparently probably a splinter from panel behind him, not a bullet graze) was actually genuine because if it were not, he'd never have shut up about it. But notice he never talks about it. And the reason I've seen reported is anecdotal but chimes with everything we know about the man - he doesn't like to talk about or other people to talk about it because it terrified him. We know he is a coward about physical danger, you can tell that he would be utterly horrified by the idea of a world without Donald J Trump in it. Had it been a set up he would 100% have been going 'They tried to kill me, you know that?' every 5 seconds ever since, he would have moved on to claiming that 'The Democrats tried to have me killed'. Had it all been a stunt, he would never had stopped talking about it. The reason everything is so quiet is far more likely that he doesn't want to hear about it because it scared the shit out of him so it's been minimised by people around him trying to keep on his good side.

I think sometimes people are drawn into conspiracy theories rather than look for logic. I suppose it's less exciting.

It's still very early to draw conclusions but from what I've been able to piece together from watching available footage and heard from reporting so far was that:

1. The shots were fired from a hallway or checkpoint area outside of the main ballroom, were somewhat muffled and the amount of background noise from clattering food service, talking and some truly awful jazzy music playing in the venue would disguise practically anything.

Presumably a lot of the diners were drinking and becoming quite merry during their annual get together and being that a large proportion of them were journalists, reporters and camera people they tend to have experience of hair raising situations and aren't the most panicky people.

So, all in all, a cramped ballroom of 2500 partying journos half deafened by jazz music and raucous conversation are quite likely just to slide reluctantly under their tables in a relaxed fashion at the sound of a rather tame bang.

Besides which, that carpet looked filthy.

1. Vance was certainly dragged from his chair first but they just appeared to grab the back of his collar and send him flying off backstage more or less uncovered by any security agents shielding him. So not the most attentive of rescues.

1. The suspect seems to have been staying in the hôtel and had his own room. He probably wasn't approaching the ballroom via an outside entrance and could even have been resident for several days, arousing no real suspicion as being a more or less ordinary looking man with no great irregulaties in his ID, dress or behaviour.

It's not even clear, at least to me, at this point, that he was the one that fired any shots. I've seen the usual grainy black and white footage from CCTV that shows a lot of commotion but I'll have to watch it again to work out what was going on.

It's a rum do alright but I'll suppose we'll have to wait to find out more.

Further to my filthy carpet observation, I have found out that the Hilton International Hotel has been hosting this event in the same ballroom since at least the 1970's. Looks like it hasn't been renovated since then either.

I would think that the numbers attending will have hugely increased by 2026 and the whole event was horribly cramped, overcrowded and in short, a security nightmare. If it had been a more serious threat, could all those people have been safely evacuated? What are the exits like in there? How many of them are there?

As much as it pains me to even slightly agree with Mr Trump and Ireally, really don't believe his ballroom plans are just to do with having a nicer venue for parties - the poor old Hilton ballroom, traditional venue notwithstanding, was looking really shabby last night and they were packed in like sardines even on the stage. Recipe for chaos.

*Sorry, I did number my post correctly in the preview but it seems to have got mucked up in posting

So, you didn't hear the clattering cutlery as people dropped it and got under the tables

Apart from that one chap who just sat there and said afterwards, he had back problems and can't get under the table

there's a few clips doing the rounds, but the clattering of cutlery is really loud

@Redheadedstepchild yes my mum expressed surprised that they didn't have that event at the White House. They probably don't have room for it. The ballroom enthusiasm does make a lot more sense now.

How come the whole administration was there?

Does US Security not have a thing where you shouldn't really have the POTUS, VP and and the rest of them all together in one place at one time?🤔

If not, they really should look into it.

They have looked into it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_survivor

So many conspiracy theories!!

Have you actually read anything about the security protocol involved?

Are you aware they have completely different security teams that act independently of each other?

There is a lot of information about the alleged shooter available less than a day after the event?

His name, occupation, where he lived, his family story, job, education status, political views, history of political donations, the route he used to travel from LA to DC, his ‘manifesto’ is online and published I. News media.
https://nypost.com/2026/04/26/us-news/read-whcd-gunman-cole-allens-full-anti-trump-manifesto/?
what more are you after?

Are you suggesting the media, who are largely anti Trump, and in the room, are in on this?

Are you suggesting that the idea of a shooting at the Washington Hilton, is so preposterous it couldn’t be true? (Reagan was shot at there in 1981).

Are you suggesting a shadowy ‘they’ has planned a false flag assasination attempt, using live ammunition, and by somehow persuading a man, with a well documented anti Trump history, likely to spend the next 30 years in jail, to be part of this?

Do you realise how truly insane and off the wall conspiratorial your suggestions read?

Nothing touched his ear, that’s the point. No injury, no scar, no assassination attempt. Just a lot of bluster, bullshit and insultingly bad theatre, like everything else about this ridiculous presidency.

Though if he were to suffer a non-fatal shooting, an ear wound would probably be the least traumatic for him, given that his ears are vestigial and serve no practical purpose.