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Wendy Duffy heart breaking but understandable

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youalright · 25/04/2026 11:02

What a brave lady i hope she's holding her son right now.

Wendy Duffy heart breaking but understandable
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Ididthistooanditwashell · 25/04/2026 14:38

I feel really strongly that each person should have the right to determine if and when their own life ends, obviously outside of circumstances beyond their control; a natural death due to illness, accident or old age.

If someone feels their existence is nothing but pain and torment, dragged out to increase their suffering and benefit no-one, then I don't think it's for anyone else to tell them they must stay alive.

I understand all the concerns and arguments about coersion, especially in the case of the elderly where care expenses and inheritance are issues, and obviously we should be mindful of that. But if an adult decides that living has become intolerable for them, whether for physical or psychological reasons, then as hard as it might be for the people they leave behind, it should be their choice and their choice only. Anyone who feels compelled to end their life is probably going to do it one way or another, so at least let it be a dignified, compassionate and medically managed end.

justletusrun · 25/04/2026 14:38

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:27

If we legalise assisted dying effectively for depression then we will have to let anyone die for any reason really. You might think that you understand this woman’s motivation and imagine that she’s now “with her son” (she’s not obviously with him at all as they are both dead) but what if it’s someone who is devastated because they have lost a pet or lost a family member who isn’t a child or because a relationship had ended? I think she was suffering from a deep depression and wasn’t motivated to get better. No she doesn’t owe anyone anything but I don’t want to live in a world where a state sanctions killing someone. I do agree with assisted dying where someone is terminally ill and in physical pain/loses dignity. But not for this. And no, it’s not brave.

Why should we force people to live if they really don’t want to?

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/04/2026 14:39

DorotheaShottery · 25/04/2026 11:35

Some parents use their grief to effect change; like the parents of Barney and Grace who have fought to bring the police and health authorities to account. Or Natasha's parents who campaigned for a change in the law regarding the labeling of food allergens and are now trying to eradicate food allergies.

Others run marathons or found charities in memory of their children. Many live quietly in dignity or quiet desperation or a mixture of both.

Sometimes grief makes life literally unbearable. Wendy should have been able to end her life with medical support in her own country rather than have to pay £10k to do it in Switzerland.

May she rest in peace.

Really? So given all the assurances surrounding the bill currently going through our Parliament, you'd support the widening of the criteria to include just about anyone who said they didn't want to live any more?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/04/2026 14:39

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:36

Yes, and that risk places a roadblock in the way and often dissuades people from killing themselves, forcing them to try to struggle on - and quite often, given time, they get better. Removing that obstacle by getting a company to do it, means that a lot more people are going to kill themselves, who would've gotten better otherwise.

It's not hard to find reliable suicide methods online (or at least it wasn't 25 years ago, ask me how I know) and as for a family member finding you...well, if you're willing to tell them that you're going to a clinic to be killed, or capable of arranging for them to be told, it wouldn't be that hard to make sure they didn't find you by scheduling a text to the authorities or a friend, to be sent after you're dead.

Really, it's not good enough to say "committing suicide is hard and scary, so we now need to pay companies to kill suicidal people."

That's so dystopian that it's wild.

Or they get worse. For some, the tiniest chance of things getting better is enough but not for others.

If people CHOOSE not to take the risk then that’s up to them. Why force someone to endure things if they feel they can’t?

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:40

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:38

'I don't think someone should have the right to pay a company to kill them because they're depressed and want to die, and yet don't want it badly enough to do it themselves, and are too afraid they'll botch the job.'

The company doesn't kill them, they kill themselves, that's always very clear. so you're fundamentally incorrect to keep going on about a company 'killing them'.

Why don't you think someone should 'have the right to' pay a company to help them kill themselves. What has it got to do with you?

Maybe not in Switzerland but in Belgium the doctor injects you so they do kill you.

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:40

placemats · 25/04/2026 14:37

It's totally different.

Why do you insist on making different scenarios?

Why is it different? Or, why is it different enough not to be relevant, in your mind?

A 24-year-old woman whose only child has died (being stillborn) - how is that so different?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/04/2026 14:40

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/04/2026 14:39

Really? So given all the assurances surrounding the bill currently going through our Parliament, you'd support the widening of the criteria to include just about anyone who said they didn't want to live any more?

I do. If there is no coercion involved it should be available to anyone

Clafoutie · 25/04/2026 14:41

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:25

Well, it is, I believe, a very successful method. Those are just three off the top of my head - there are many more, I can think of including several people that my DH and I have known (friends, or family members of friends).

I don't advocate for anyone to kill themselves, but I think it's a little silly to pretend that everyone is botching it unless they get a Swiss company to do it!

I feel it is a step too far down the line of ‘passing judgement’ to compare methods of suicide in this way. I understand that Wendy Duffy’s declared view of the method she chose was that it would avoid anyone else having to deal with the aftermath of her actual death. I don’t know how I feel about this being handed over to a corporate body either, but feel at least her reasoning in this specific aspect is valid and should be respected as such.

Lifeomars · 25/04/2026 14:41

Fraughtmum · 25/04/2026 11:37

Ds died 2 years ago. I have another adult child and that is the only thing stopping me doing what she did.

i am so sorry. The same things has happened to a very close relative of mine, two adult children and then one died in an appalling (is there any other way when a young person dies?) and it is only the fact that they have another child that keeps them here.

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:42

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 25/04/2026 14:40

I do. If there is no coercion involved it should be available to anyone

Agreed

Miranda65 · 25/04/2026 14:42

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:33

Underlying this “understanding” is also a misogynistic view that middle aged women’s lives aren’t worth living if they lose a child. I can guarantee if this was a 30 year old woman who said she couldn’t live anymore because her mum had died or because she’d been assaulted, people would say she needs to be stopped. Middle aged mum loses her son and people say they totally get it and that she will be reunited with him now.

I disagree. If anyone, male or female, over the age of 18, wishes to end their own life, then they should be allowed to do so. It might be considered "very sad" by some, but it really is nobody else's business. Death is not necessarily the worst thing that can happen to a person.
I think public reaction can sometimes be conditioned by growing up in a broadly Christian society (or having an actual faith, of course) but, fundamentally, all adults must absolutely have the right to self-determination.

bafta16 · 25/04/2026 14:43

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:26

'(Good lord, when did the world turn topsy-turvy? Was it around the time we all decided that apparently men can be women? And now suicide is good?? What's next, rape is beneficial? 😵‍💫)'

Seriously? You're conflating a persons' right to choose to live or die with

  • the male pattern violent gender woo scandal, and
  • Sexual violence?

That tells us all very clearly that you can't think critically or rationally.

I think the comments make perfect sense.

There have been times when I didn't want to be here.

Billsplitre · 25/04/2026 14:43

I don't agree with this. Why is suicide (assisted or not) suddenly 'brave' and acceptable?? My grandma has lost 3 of her children in her life, yet she is still here with us at aged 87. She could have given up like this and gone off to Switzerland too but she hasn't.

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:43

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:38

'I don't think someone should have the right to pay a company to kill them because they're depressed and want to die, and yet don't want it badly enough to do it themselves, and are too afraid they'll botch the job.'

The company doesn't kill them, they kill themselves, that's always very clear. so you're fundamentally incorrect to keep going on about a company 'killing them'.

Why don't you think someone should 'have the right to' pay a company to help them kill themselves. What has it got to do with you?

The company kills them. Let's not quibble over technicalities and loopholes. Regardless of who administers the medication, it's provided by the company, for the purpose of killing the person.

And personally, I think normalising depressed and mentally ill people committing suicide, and lauding it as brave and 'the right choice' is not good for society. That's what it has to do with me. Erm...What has it got to do with you?

DaisyDooley · 25/04/2026 14:44

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 13:48

Well, in this case she didn't even end her own life - she paid a Swiss company to kill her!

She -if it’s like Dignitas- will have been given a pre prepared concoction of drugs which she herself takes. She physically administers it.
Stop making it sound like they bludgeoned her with a machete.

bestcatlife · 25/04/2026 14:45

People saying it isn’t ‘brave’ have obviously been lucky enough to have never felt suicidal, because it’s an incredibly scary place.

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:45

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:40

Maybe not in Switzerland but in Belgium the doctor injects you so they do kill you.

But what has it got to do with you?

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:46

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:26

'(Good lord, when did the world turn topsy-turvy? Was it around the time we all decided that apparently men can be women? And now suicide is good?? What's next, rape is beneficial? 😵‍💫)'

Seriously? You're conflating a persons' right to choose to live or die with

  • the male pattern violent gender woo scandal, and
  • Sexual violence?

That tells us all very clearly that you can't think critically or rationally.

No, I'm not conflating things.

I'm saying that suddenly, all society's opinion on suicide and men-being-women has turned topsy-turvy, and then picked the wildest example for 'what's next??' that I could think of!

My point being that, "Hey, isn't suicide bad? When did suicide become a good thing??"

Happy to clear that up.

BellaVita · 25/04/2026 14:46

Fraughtmum · 25/04/2026 11:37

Ds died 2 years ago. I have another adult child and that is the only thing stopping me doing what she did.

I hear you ❤️ xx

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:47

Miranda65 · 25/04/2026 14:42

I disagree. If anyone, male or female, over the age of 18, wishes to end their own life, then they should be allowed to do so. It might be considered "very sad" by some, but it really is nobody else's business. Death is not necessarily the worst thing that can happen to a person.
I think public reaction can sometimes be conditioned by growing up in a broadly Christian society (or having an actual faith, of course) but, fundamentally, all adults must absolutely have the right to self-determination.

You think that if a young person or a man decided to kill themselves for whatever reason that people would call it brave and understandable?

Alicorn1707 · 25/04/2026 14:47

Glowingup · 25/04/2026 14:27

If we legalise assisted dying effectively for depression then we will have to let anyone die for any reason really. You might think that you understand this woman’s motivation and imagine that she’s now “with her son” (she’s not obviously with him at all as they are both dead) but what if it’s someone who is devastated because they have lost a pet or lost a family member who isn’t a child or because a relationship had ended? I think she was suffering from a deep depression and wasn’t motivated to get better. No she doesn’t owe anyone anything but I don’t want to live in a world where a state sanctions killing someone. I do agree with assisted dying where someone is terminally ill and in physical pain/loses dignity. But not for this. And no, it’s not brave.

Completely agree @Glowingup

I do wonder if Dame Esther Rantzen has commented on Wendy Duffy's situation.

I cannot believe that Dame Esther, nor Rebecca, her daughter, who is championing the cause for assisted dying would necessarily agree that Wendy Duffy, should fall under the remit for which they're advocating.

An assisted dying bill, for our terminally ill, in incredibly, unbearable pain, is a discussion that should be advanced, no doubt.

How do we build such a framework though?

We certainly cannot leave it to our current crop of politicians, across the house, who have time and again, proven, that their interests, not those of the individual UK citizen, are their uppermost concern.

Ididthistooanditwashell · 25/04/2026 14:48

Billsplitre · 25/04/2026 14:43

I don't agree with this. Why is suicide (assisted or not) suddenly 'brave' and acceptable?? My grandma has lost 3 of her children in her life, yet she is still here with us at aged 87. She could have given up like this and gone off to Switzerland too but she hasn't.

But if she'd taken her own life quietly in her bedroom one day and left a note that said the grief was too much, do you think anyone would have blamed her? Not everyone has the same emotional resilience.

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:48

DaisyDooley · 25/04/2026 14:44

She -if it’s like Dignitas- will have been given a pre prepared concoction of drugs which she herself takes. She physically administers it.
Stop making it sound like they bludgeoned her with a machete.

I'm not... What on earth do machetes have to do with it, and more importantly, why would you bludgeon someone with a machete when it has a blade to chop??

I'm just saying they provided her with a medication that would kill her, for the purpose of killing her. Without it, she would not be dead. Ego, they killed her, unless you want to quibble over legal loopholes.

Backawayfromthesausage · 25/04/2026 14:49

I also take issue at the word brave being used to describe suicide. I find it really objectionable.

Northermcharn · 25/04/2026 14:49

OtterlyAstounding · 25/04/2026 14:43

The company kills them. Let's not quibble over technicalities and loopholes. Regardless of who administers the medication, it's provided by the company, for the purpose of killing the person.

And personally, I think normalising depressed and mentally ill people committing suicide, and lauding it as brave and 'the right choice' is not good for society. That's what it has to do with me. Erm...What has it got to do with you?

Ha ha what? Facts are facts - they matter.

It's got fck all to do with me or you, what this lady chose to do with her life. I on the one hand say live and let live - or die.

You seem to want to control other people into doing exactly what you want them to do - or not to do. Bizarre.

Again who do you think you are?