Wendy Duffy heart breaking but understandable

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What a brave lady i hope she's holding her son right now.

How do you know that someone who kills themselves by their own hands hasn’t been coerced? And that’s a lot more risky and unpleasant than going to a nice clean clinic.

Cheap at the price. Although it seems harsh to reserve it for those who can afford that

To be fair if your dying you could sell everything you own so most people would be able to get 10k

Yeah fair one.

Although I don’t disagree with you about the potential for people to find new ways of living, I’m not sure that it is possible to extrapolate from one experience and apply it to another. Everyone is very individual in their grief.
In the reality of facing someone who is determined to end their life, it is also hard to imagine how it could be possible to say to them that they must hold on. Obviously loved ones would try this in desperate hope, but it just isn’t always possible to fully inhabit another individual’s reality, which is why suicide is so very painful for everyone involved.

All i have said all the way along is everyone should have the right to choose. People can kill themselves after the death of their goldfish if they really want to. Its not for me or anyone to judge why someone chooses to end their life

I'm wondering if the clinic she used accepts credit cards.

Totally agree with this. Some people posting here are lucky enough to have absolutely no idea.

Exactly this you don't have the whole why did they do it, is it something I did or didn't do. I have blamed myself for my bf suicide for well over a decade her family won't have this

Yes!

Exactly - having to not tell anyone and hold it all in is added torture

I’m all for this - planned and non violent - no traumatised train drivers

for those saying people will be coerced are niave - those relatives will be coercing
regardless - you can have safeguards

i heard of a family who moved into mums house locked her in a room and went on holiday with her money and left her in the house alone - coercion exists full atop

And you don’t think that someone wanting to kill themselves over the death of a goldfish would indicate any kind of mental health problem that they might need help with instead someone passing them a lethal injection?

I think it’s the opposite. These are people saying “I have felt like this, and I don’t anymore, so if I had ended my life when I wanted to, I never would have seen what happened after”.

Never said that!!! Read it again.

Most people kill themselves because of a mental health problem. Being mentally ill doesn't mean you don't have capacity

@NoisyHiker , I just wanted to pick up on a detail here:

"Something as transient as MH".

It isn't always transient.

With the best will in the world, and with professional help, some people don't get better or adjust to living with a mental health problem.

I'm glad things have improved for you.

Bottom line is it doesn’t matter what any of us think. It was her decision. She did what she felt she had to do. I’m not arrogant enough to presume that I know better.

There are worse things that can happen to a person, than death. We lose sight of that a lot.

She was deemed mentally competent and therefore able to decide that she’d had enough.
I’ve never been where she has so I won’t judge but I can certainly understand why she might feel that way.
And, having watched a few immediate relatives die horrible, barbaric deaths, I am absolutely an advocate of assisted dying. My life, my choice.

Can we try to refrain from that term (commit suicide) and use something like died by suicide.

you are purposely dramatising things and being obtuse

I don’t agree

that’s their journey and not this women’s

who are we to say people have to suffer through stuff - people can evaluate their own lives

This story is heartbreaking.

from what I can gather she was competent and had the capacity to make that decision.

she was in pain and suffering and couldn’t go on.

why would you want to prolong that pain for someone? I think we have to question who were thinking about in that case and actually it’s quite selfish to think to that “if so and so does then I will be sad/their family will be impacted”. But it’s not about others at this time.

it’s about that person, their feelings and their choice.

I’m so sorry to read the stories of some of you who have lost their babies. I just couldn’t imagine it. I think the pain would rip me apart and my other child would be the thing that stops me. But I don’t know.

desperately sad.

sending love to those in similar positions 🌹

Until you've experienced the death of a child and AN other loved one then you don't get to say.

Funny, as in bloody unfunny, how you say there is no hierarchy and then say there is.

@NoisyHiker

your experience is yours and not this women’s

and saying mental health is transient - it was for you but not for many

teh context of people’s lives that causes poor mental healths can be very fixed

@Eastereggschocolateisthebest I am not dramatising anything at all. I’m responding to the exact scenario posed by the OP in her comment to me.

And I am capable of seeing that people have personal responses to pain - it was you that was generalising all of the people that are advocating for trying to “wait it out” including a poster who has lost a child, who attends a support group for others who have also lost their children. Who are you to say their advice is from a perspective of never having experienced pain?