Wendy Duffy heart breaking but understandable

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What a brave lady i hope she's holding her son right now.

So what’s the alternative?in order to safeguard people you prevent others from having a medically control death and instead let them take their chances with the methods available, which inevitably result in an innocent person being involved, if only the one finding the body?

What should people who want to die do? There’s bugger all support, and even if there was, how do you stop someone feeling like that ?

Several psychiatric professionals were sure she wasn’t depressed and had capacity

but you know better eh?

Because they needed them as workers, a need which no longer holds sway over freedom of choice, or with unemployment.

Begs belief

I agree with OP

it is brave and a unique individual decision

And the church owed most of the land in England - that needed to be worked!

Pegasos clinic keeps coming up in the news. What a humane service they seem to provide to anyone who looks. They were just on the BBC. Gold star. Fck religious zealots and despots who want to control what people do, or don't do.

I don't think someone should have the right to pay a company to kill them because they're depressed and want to die, and yet don't want it badly enough to do it themselves, and are too afraid they'll botch the job.
It's not actually that hard to kill oneself 'successfully', if one is determined. Robin Williams, Chester Bennington, and Chris Cornell all managed perfectly well, for instance.
Having a company do it just removes the usual roadblocks that might prevent depressed people from killing themselves, and that's not a good thing.

Men are better at killing themselves. It’s a repellant idea that because women aren’t good at killing themselves generally, usually because the way men kill themselves is violent and women are notoriously less violent, that they should be forced to keep trying in the hope that they fail. It’s a twisted idea.

Equal opportunity suicide, that’s what we need

*sarcasm

I agree that it’s a religious construct that served the controlling interest. Frankly, life is cheap, and let me describe a higher value if I choose.

This. ^ I am shocked anyone is OK with it to be honest.

And I’m shocked that anyone isn’t ok with it, given the pain she was in.

I don't k ow anything about these health professionals: who they werre, their qualificatiins , how well they knew this woman, or whether they have given a disinterested opinion.

So, if someone says they are so sad at the death of a child that they don’t want to live any longer, they are allowed to ask someone else to kill them.

But if someone were to say they were so sad at the death of their parent(s) that they didn’t want to live any longer, this would not be allowed because more people experience this in general and so they would be expected to “suck it up”.

Is that it, OP?

Or whether they were being paid £10k to concede she had capacity

But surely you care about the pain suffered by loved ones after you choose assisted dying?

Which is why you made the post you did

But you’d have ample time to discuss it with them and help them understand

this women’s siblings understand

better than suicide wheee you can’t tell anyone what you are planning - that’s when the pain really jus gets past on

The person I quoted seems to think that women should be able to hang themselves at the same rate as men? I assume that’s what you mean.

"as for a family member finding you...well, if you're willing to tell them that you're going to a clinic to be killed, or capable of arranging for them to be told, it wouldn't be that hard to make sure they didn't find you by scheduling a text to the authorities or a friend, to be sent after you're dead."

Do you have any idea how much first responders hate hate hate finding dead bodies and how much trauma it causes them.

Exactly. The way people die is very much part of the grief process for those left behind. We all know there is peace to be had if you know the loved one didn’t suffer or the passing was swift and pain free. Just imagine being the loved one watching a sibling try and commit suicide over and over again. The worry every time you left them. I can’t see how anyone wouldn’t think a planned and peaceful ending wasn’t the preferred route. It’s baffling.

Yes, pain so excruciating that you can't bear another second. You just want the pain to stop and if death is your only option for release, then death it must be.

Exactly

“a scheduled text to authorities” ffs

nobody is killing them - an ethical body is giving them tools to do it without all the trauma in thought out way

self suicide is often in the spell of the moment

I’m saying you seem to think it’s a shame women aren’t as often successful at killing themselves as men and that society needs to rectify this situation.

I agree

that’s what thought

the suffer on brigade and then You’ll feel
better have obv never experienced that kind of mental pain

“It's not hard to find reliable suicide methods online”

absolute rubbish