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Schrödinger's Strait - Trump Thread #162A

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Spandauer · 19/04/2026 14:58

The Strait of Schrödinger remains open and closed, safe and dangerous, insurable and uninsurable, blockaded and free.

"You put your tanker in, you put your tanker out
In, out, in, out, you sail it all about
You do the Straits of Hormuz and you turn around
That’s what it’s all about!"

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

Got overwhelmed by the 🍊💩's idiot fuckery last time and missed out thread #161 so have designated this one as fake #162...A

Trump’s Final Term Ends in: - Countdown Timer
Thanks for link @CaveMum

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Old enough to remember whole years in which I barely thought about the American president. Previous thread: [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/<u&gt...

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BustingBaoBun · 27/04/2026 11:05

I just feel uneasy about all of this. I just don't think KC should be going over at this stage.

There are so many unanswered questions, just like there was at Butler and it was all shut down very quickly and no answers.

CaveMum · 27/04/2026 11:22

BustingBaoBun · 27/04/2026 11:05

I just feel uneasy about all of this. I just don't think KC should be going over at this stage.

There are so many unanswered questions, just like there was at Butler and it was all shut down very quickly and no answers.

Probably partly because TSSDNCOP 😜

Lalgarh · 27/04/2026 11:58

..... Nope. I can't even begin to guess what tat stands for

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

PerkingFaintly · 27/04/2026 12:04

Oh @Lalgarh !

The Secret Service Does Not Comment on Procedure.

It's from The West Wing originally but is a longstanding MN joke about how MHHQ doesn't reveal how it detects trolls.

PerkingFaintly · 27/04/2026 12:06

And in the most glorious intersection of three worlds, there came a time when Hillary Clinton did an interview for MN and at Justine's request – on behalf of us all – uttered those very words.

MN melted down!

Wipeywipey · 27/04/2026 12:21

So effectively they tackled a guy who had knives and guns on him but hadn't shot anyone or anything, even grabbed a weapon but when they asked something along the lines of "what are you doing?" he said "I want to shoot Trump" ?
I mean, lots of people want to...

RedTagAlan · 27/04/2026 12:29

Wipeywipey · 27/04/2026 12:21

So effectively they tackled a guy who had knives and guns on him but hadn't shot anyone or anything, even grabbed a weapon but when they asked something along the lines of "what are you doing?" he said "I want to shoot Trump" ?
I mean, lots of people want to...

Another one for the NRA to protest. Random fella going about his business, exercising his 2nd amendment right. The whole WH admin should be up in arms really.

RedTagAlan · 27/04/2026 12:43

Iran really just has to say it's open, no talks or anything. And it puts Trump on the spot. And if the US seize Iranian ships, they just have to say 2 weeks. If you don't stop that, then in 2 weeks we will close it again.

JoshLymanSwagger · 27/04/2026 13:04

@CaveMum Your TSSDNCOP reminded me...I'm rewatching again and in the Pilot, the Mary Marsh thing...say that to KKKaroline instead..."The God you pray to is to busy getting indicted for tax fraud."
Replace "God" with 🍊🌮...

JoshLymanSwagger · 27/04/2026 13:09

@PerkingFaintly Thank You 💐🍹🍫

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 27/04/2026 14:41

@PerkingFaintly lovely to listen to Hillary but OMG some of the comments on that thread are painfully optimistic. For instance, it's from 2014; A very impressive woman, if only she would run in 2016 I think could make a massive difference in US foreign and domestic policy. Feminist icon indeed.
I want to weep.

countrygirl99 · 27/04/2026 14:55

This seems a very useful word in the context of the current US government.

Schrödinger's Strait - Trump Thread #162A
logicisall · 27/04/2026 15:07

This was taken from an article in The Guardian about KC's visit to the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/27/king-charles-visits-trump-what-are-the-potential-pitfalls-for-the-monarch

The king’s most important speech yet
Charles’s address to a joint meeting of Congress will be televised internationally and is possibly his most important to date. According to Buckingham Palace, he will “recognise the challenges that our countries face”. But Trump notoriously easily takes offence.

When Queen Elizabeth II addressed Congress in 1991, she said power that grew “from the barrel of a gun” never grew well “nor for very long”, and spoke of the importance of Nato; of how Europe could become more open, liberal and aligned with the US; and of the importance and value “of the rich ethnic and cultural diversity” of both countries.

“That would be taken as a direct attack on Trump now,” Murphy said. “What Charles will, I’m sure, do is try and appeal almost over the head of Trump to the American public.” He could stress common values: belief in freedom, belief in democracy, a long history of friendship. “It’s almost saying, without saying it, that Trump is here, but Trump will go and there are longer cultural and political affinities there. He can do it in a way that a political leader can’t. He can make it appear that the strength of the relationship is beyond politics.”
Seldon said there was no need for Charles to even mention Trump, so leaving it up to individuals to see whether the “current chief executive of the US is aligning himself with those values”.

“I think [the address] could be so oblique, and done very deftly, gently, and in a polite and respectful way. The right speech, respectfully delivered, could help. And it can certainly help remind American people about the deep, profound bonds – intellectual, humane bonds – that unite both countries.”

I need to check our Bingo card again. King Charles must be frantically doing the same with his speech and trying to figure out how to deflect Trump's inevitable interminably, constant references to how he bravely dodged an assassin's bullet.

King Charles visits Trump: what are the potential pitfalls for the monarch?

The king faces possibly his most important ever speech and a thin-skinned president, in the shadow of the Sussexes and the Epstein scandal. What could go wrong?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/27/king-charles-visits-trump-what-are-the-potential-pitfalls-for-the-monarch

Spandauer · 27/04/2026 15:21

Something else for him to whine about when he's wittering on in Chuck's ear.

The Open will return to Royal Lytham & St Annes in 2028, with US President Donald Trump's Turnberry, and Muirfield, among the courses to miss out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/cx2dev3n241o

Janey Godley would have been pleased.

A view of a bunker in front of the 18th green at Royal Lytham & St Annes, with the clubhouse in the background

2028 Open: Royal Lytham & St Annes to host tournament ahead of Turnberry and Muirfield

Royal Lytham & St Annes in Lancashire will stage golf's oldest major for the 12th time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/cx2dev3n241o

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BruceAndNosh · 27/04/2026 15:59

I'd love to play Turnberry but I'm giving it a miss while it's got Trump's name splattered over it

JoshLymanSwagger · 27/04/2026 16:28

BruceAndNosh · 27/04/2026 15:59

I'd love to play Turnberry but I'm giving it a miss while it's got Trump's name splattered over it

If I did, they'd need to re-turf the lot!!

eta - including the bunkers 😉

AcrossthePond55 · 27/04/2026 16:50

Lalgarh · 26/04/2026 19:06

I'm majorly judging the Dinner Jacket game of the men in attendance last night.

Kash Patel looks like he's being strangled by a black butterfly

We should be so lucky

AcrossthePond55 · 27/04/2026 17:22

@RedTagAlan

One for our US friends really.
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I ain't a lawyer, but I am sure Trump and his MAGA pals are wrong about the WH ballroom. It is Federal property ( or will be), so the Hatch act will apply. And that says federal property and staff can't be used for partisan politics. And given that the WH correspondents are not part of Government, would they even be able to use Fed property for what is a private political function?
I am thinking "look ahead" here. What would the repubs say if the next Dem POTUS used the ballroom for such a private function ?

As a retired Fed I'm pretty familiar with the Hatch Act on a 'lower level' basis of course.

First, Hatch doesn't apply to POTUS or VP.

Hatch says that government facilities of any kind cannot be used for political purposes. And that federal employees cannot 'appear in or use their official capacity for partisan purposes'.

What the former means is pretty clear. We cannot use any government facility or equipment for partisan politics. No Xeroxing, not even a pen or a staple to be used.

What that last means is that if I appeared at or spoke at a partisan campaign rally and said "I work for XX agency and this candidate is the best one" or I wore my ID badge during a rally I would be in violation of Hatch. BUT, I could speak or endorse a candidate in a 'private' capacity wearing 'plain clothes'. We were also barred from discussing politics, disseminating partisan materials, and wearing political badges in the office during business hours.

I haven't seen the original comments re the ballroom, but I'm assuming that they're asserting that since the ballroom is (supposedly) paid for by 'private contributions' that Hatch doesn't apply. If that's their assertion it'll end up in court. Many federal facilities are housed in private buildings. Those facilities are subject to Hatch. So why shouldn't the reverse be true? That a so called 'private' facility lodged on govt property is subject to Hatch? Many of our National Parks have private businesses and foundation stores in them and they aren't allowed to hang posters or put flyers on the counter. So there is precedent for this.

Scrotus keeps saying that it's a 'gift to the Nation', which to me means that it will be a 'government facility' and therefore subject to Hatch. If so, it cannot be legally used for partisan occasions. And cannot be used definitely for 'campaign activities'. He's not going to be able to have it both ways. That it's 'public' when he wants to look good and it's 'private' when he wants to use it. And so, SCOTUS here we come!

Oh and PS; The WHCD isn't a partisan function. It's put on by the White House Correspondents Association. As far as WHCA using the ballroom, I would think that wouldn't be likely. The WHCA would be smart enough to know that 'conditions' would probably be put on their usage. Also, since you can't 'rent' the State Rooms in the WH for private functions, I'd assume the ballroom would be the same. Of course, Scrotus will want to wring any penny he can get for the use of 'his' ballroom, so who knows.

logicisall · 27/04/2026 17:24

I'm slightly bemused by this, coming from Merz. Is it a case of everyone now attacking a wounded dog? Is it recognition that Trump is in over his head in the war with Iran? Is it recognition that Iran does have some, possibly winning, cards? Is he just fed up with the economic price the world and Germany are paying and has now chosen a politically expedient side to criticise?

4 March 2026 Politico.
The conservative German chancellor sat deferentially and mostly silent as Trump threatened to “embargo” Spain for not spending more on defense and for condemning U.S. strikes on Iran. Nor did Merz respond when Trump attacked British Prime Minister Keir Starmer on an array of issues — “this is not Winston Churchill that we’re dealing with” — and threatened to escalate his trade war with Europe.
Merz’s silence was part of an obvious strategy: Never contradict Trump in front of the cameras, and try in private talks to cajole the president into seeing things Germany’s way.
Yet the image of the EU’s most powerful national leader sitting obsequiously beside Trump as he berated fellow European leaders will likely have jarred many Germans and left a sour taste in capitals across Europe, underscoring the political dangers of placating the U.S. president.

27 April 2026 Telegraph.
Friedrich Merz said the US had been “humiliated” by Iran in an overt attack on Donald Trump.
The German chancellor claimed that Washington “quite obviously went into this war without any strategy”.
Mr Merz said the Iranian leadership was “negotiating very skilfully”, adding that “you don’t just have to get in, you have to get out” of military interventions abroad.
“The Iranians are clearly stronger than expected and the Americans clearly have no truly convincing strategy in the negotiations either,” Mr Merz said.
“The problem with conflicts like this is always: you don’t just have to get in, you have to get out again. We saw that very painfully in Afghanistan for 20 years. We saw it in Iraq.”
“A whole nation is being humiliated by the Iranian leadership, especially by these so-called Revolutionary Guards,” he added.
Mr Merz also reiterated his offer to deploy German minesweepers to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz, but his attack will probably heighten tensions between the US and Europe.

AcrossthePond55 · 27/04/2026 17:55

@logicisall

Interesting article, but I think it's more than natural fear of being accused of being antisemitic. I think part of it is that the US has been 'pro-Israel' for so long and so 'completely' that it's going to take a massive change in the national psyche to see them as an aggressor. And that maybe, just maybe, the Palestinian population may have a point in wanting to be recognized.

Spandauer · 27/04/2026 18:07

King Charles will be spared the potential humiliation of being upbraided in public by Donald Trump this week after the White House agreed that any meeting between the two men should be held off camera.
British officials have pushed for the Oval Office meeting between the monarch and the US president to be held off camera for fear of a repeat of the scenes when Trump beratedthe Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in front of the world’s press.
Sources involved in planning the trip say Charles will pose for the cameras at the start of his centrepiece bilateral meeting on Tuesday, but will not be filmed talking about anything substantive.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/27/king-charles-awkwardness-meeting-donald-trump-off-camera?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

King Charles to meet Donald Trump off camera to avoid awkwardness

British officials pushed for White House meeting to be held privately fearing repeat of Zelenskyy scenes

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/27/king-charles-awkwardness-meeting-donald-trump-off-camera?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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logicisall · 27/04/2026 18:30

I'm still going to call a Trump loose mouth, along the lines of Prince Harry's.

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