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Schrödinger's Strait - Trump Thread #162A

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Spandauer · 19/04/2026 14:58

The Strait of Schrödinger remains open and closed, safe and dangerous, insurable and uninsurable, blockaded and free.

"You put your tanker in, you put your tanker out
In, out, in, out, you sail it all about
You do the Straits of Hormuz and you turn around
That’s what it’s all about!"

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

Got overwhelmed by the 🍊💩's idiot fuckery last time and missed out thread #161 so have designated this one as fake #162...A

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SerendipityJane · 26/04/2026 18:19

logicisall · 26/04/2026 17:58

And in local news only being reported lunchtime today ...

Major fire at British air base used by US to strike Iran
Emergency services deployed to tackle blaze at RAF Fairford
A fire has broken out at an air base currently used by the US air force in the war against Iran.
Several crews were deployed to the incident at RAF Fairford in the early hours of Sunday morning.
Footage taken overnight appears to show smoke billowing from what is claimed to be the base’s commissary, a shop that provides food and equipment.
Other pictures from the scene show that the building’s roof collapsed as firefighters brought the blaze under control.
No one was injured and no RAF aircraft was damaged.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/a408777dff00324d

Could this be the excuse for the US occupying the UK ?

SerendipityJane · 26/04/2026 18:35

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/04/2026 18:13

It does seem like a heck of a coincidence that Trump and his team should be "victims" of a "shooter" (who actually shot nobody) at an event Trump has been boycotting for several years until this one.

I also wonder, Did he turn up mob-handed in case everyone there mocked at him?

Edited

Thee is an Isaac Asimov short story "Galley Slave" which has a plot line around a professor who after a career of not trusting robots, suddenly decides to trust one to proofread his book, only it makes so many "mistakes" the professors reputation is ruined.

Turned out that the professor had told the robot to trash his career - but was undone in a wonderful plot twist thanks to the inspiration if fictional Dr. Susan Calvin.

Llttledrummergirl · 26/04/2026 18:44

Either the secret service is utterly shit, to the point our dignitaries (King Charles) will not be safe and so should not travel there, or this was a choreographed production- hence Trump and the entire cabinet breaking security protocols to all attend an event he had avoided iup until now. If so, Charles should not validate this with a visit.

I will be very disappointed with Starmer if this visit goes ahead.

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BustingBaoBun · 26/04/2026 18:49

Llttledrummergirl · 26/04/2026 18:44

Either the secret service is utterly shit, to the point our dignitaries (King Charles) will not be safe and so should not travel there, or this was a choreographed production- hence Trump and the entire cabinet breaking security protocols to all attend an event he had avoided iup until now. If so, Charles should not validate this with a visit.

I will be very disappointed with Starmer if this visit goes ahead.

I agree. He'll have a rant on his TruthS about it, but he does that anyway and he'll be doing that whether KC goes or not.

I know algorithms skew what I read, but I have not come across one post anywhere on anything that seems to think this wasn't staged. More is coming out about it.

logicisall · 26/04/2026 18:56

Llttledrummergirl · 26/04/2026 18:44

Either the secret service is utterly shit, to the point our dignitaries (King Charles) will not be safe and so should not travel there, or this was a choreographed production- hence Trump and the entire cabinet breaking security protocols to all attend an event he had avoided iup until now. If so, Charles should not validate this with a visit.

I will be very disappointed with Starmer if this visit goes ahead.

You're not the only one with concerns.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/233ff59fe8b195c9
Buckingham Palace and the White House will discuss whether plans for the King’s state visit to the United States should change after an apparent attempt to assassinate Donald Trump.
Current plans involve the King and Queen landing in Washington for the four-day visit barely 24 hours after a gunman opened fire at the annual White House correspondents’ dinner.
...
A spokesman for the Palace said “a number of discussions” would be taking place throughout Sunday over whether the incident had affected operational planning for the visit.
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Earlier on Sunday, it was revealed that “extensive discussions” were being held to ensure the King’s security throughout the visit.
Darren Jones, the Chief Secretary to the Prime Minister, told Sky News: “Our teams are working closely to ensure that security arrangements are put appropriately in place.”

Palace in talks over King’s US visit after Trump shooting

‘Number of discussions’ taking place over four-day state visit set to begin on Monday

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/233ff59fe8b195c9

Lalgarh · 26/04/2026 19:06

I'm majorly judging the Dinner Jacket game of the men in attendance last night.

Kash Patel looks like he's being strangled by a black butterfly

Efacsen · 26/04/2026 19:46

Buckingham Palace have confirmed that KC's visit to the US will be going ahead

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/04/2026 19:49

Food poisoning. It's the only answer now.

Evenstar · 26/04/2026 21:28

😂

Schrödinger's Strait - Trump Thread #162A
Wipeywipey · 26/04/2026 22:44

So glad everyone here thought the same as me; hopefulness swiftly followed by eye-rolling disbelief when they realised he didn't even get hit. As others have said, Trump is all about bearing guns but what is the point of that if people cleaning them are more likely to die by stupidity than a man who has most of the world wishing he would fall foul of any accident (be it lightning strikes, things falling from the sky, maybe even an errant golf ball...), as well as so many shooters apparently shooting at him in the proudest gun toting country. It is just too farcical given he actively called people back from the negotiating table to be at an event he hates, hadn't been to in years and had zero security. I don't think he realises he is looking like a poorly timed Monty Python sketch.

Starmer floundering around on Mandleson yet sending the King to brown nose another of Epstein's friends makes no sense at all. It appears Starmer wanted Mandleson so badly he could overlook his sketchy past, and somehow feels the same about Trump. I know diplomacy doesn't allow us to say sensible things to Trump, but Starmer can't honestly think Trump will stop attacking him because he likes our King? What is he hoping to get from this?

placemats · 26/04/2026 23:00

Wipeywipey · 26/04/2026 22:44

So glad everyone here thought the same as me; hopefulness swiftly followed by eye-rolling disbelief when they realised he didn't even get hit. As others have said, Trump is all about bearing guns but what is the point of that if people cleaning them are more likely to die by stupidity than a man who has most of the world wishing he would fall foul of any accident (be it lightning strikes, things falling from the sky, maybe even an errant golf ball...), as well as so many shooters apparently shooting at him in the proudest gun toting country. It is just too farcical given he actively called people back from the negotiating table to be at an event he hates, hadn't been to in years and had zero security. I don't think he realises he is looking like a poorly timed Monty Python sketch.

Starmer floundering around on Mandleson yet sending the King to brown nose another of Epstein's friends makes no sense at all. It appears Starmer wanted Mandleson so badly he could overlook his sketchy past, and somehow feels the same about Trump. I know diplomacy doesn't allow us to say sensible things to Trump, but Starmer can't honestly think Trump will stop attacking him because he likes our King? What is he hoping to get from this?

Could you please remind me of the Government in charge when Donald Trump visited the late Queen Elizabeth Ii? @Wipeywipey

PerkingFaintly · 27/04/2026 00:08

I don't think the King's trip is intended to do anything for Starmer, but for the UK.

Trump's noisy egotisim and "l'etat, c'est moi" makes it easy to forget that it is not, in fact, true that the premier is the country.

There's been a lot of quiet messaging from the British side recently reminding everyone that the relationship between countries is much deeper and broader than the relationship between a handful of individuals at the top.

Just look at posters on these threads!

Also, I think this is one of those occasions when it's useful for us to have a head of state who is separate from the politicians. Gives us two bites of the cherry: "You don't like this leader? Have this other one to talk to!" All perfectly constitutional.

Starmer seems the opposite of Trump: he doesn't seem to be driven by slights to his ego and doesn't need everything to centre him. So I can imagine he'd be perfectly happy for himself and the King to play Good Leader Bad Leader where required. (That's assuming he and Charles mesh well – I really don't know about this.)

Whether any of this will reduce Trump's attacks on the UK who knows. At the end of the day we can't solve Trump's issues for him, and Trump's always gotta have a scapegoat or twenty, so... <shrug>

MarmaladeorJam · 27/04/2026 03:44

CaveMum · 26/04/2026 16:02

Just seen on social media that Erika Kirk was there. The poster said:

”As we were being escorted out, I saw Erika Kirk (the late Charlie Kirk’s spouse) in a moment so raw and human that I won’t describe it here, as it isn’t mine to share. But I want to acknowledge her. I cannot begin to imagine how triggering last night was for her and for so many others in that room carrying their own histories of loss and fear around gun violence.”

"I cannot begin to imagine how triggering last night was for her and for so many others in that room carrying their own histories of loss and fear around gun violence.”
Why the hell don't they sort it out then? They have plenty of authority and power.

RedTagAlan · 27/04/2026 03:50

MarmaladeorJam · 27/04/2026 03:44

"I cannot begin to imagine how triggering last night was for her and for so many others in that room carrying their own histories of loss and fear around gun violence.”
Why the hell don't they sort it out then? They have plenty of authority and power.

"Arm the waiting staff" would be the usual Repug reaction.

RedTagAlan · 27/04/2026 03:53

This ballroom stuff is confusing me. I just commented about it on another thread, so cut and paste to here. One for our US friends really.
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I ain't a lawyer, but I am sure Trump and his MAGA pals are wrong about the WH ballroom. It is Federal property ( or will be), so the Hatch act will apply. And that says federal property and staff can't be used for partisan politics. And given that the WH correspondents are not part of Government, would they even be able to use Fed property for what is a private political function?
I am thinking "look ahead" here. What would the repubs say if the next Dem POTUS used the ballroom for such a private function ?
Article attached gives examples of when the Biden admin were said to have broken it.

What is the Hatch Act? | CNN Politics

What is the Hatch Act? | CNN Politics

A federal agency said Tuesday that White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre violated the Hatch Act when she used the term “mega MAGA” from the briefing podium.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/13/politics/what-is-the-hatch-act

MarmaladeorJam · 27/04/2026 04:14

RedTagAlan · 26/04/2026 17:21

I am a layperson in such things, but I just saw the news that the sub 2 hour marathon has been broken, and a thought popped in that reminded me of your post.

As we gain more knowledge of how things work with our bodies physically, we keep breaking records. Sure, the rate slows down and all that, but we do break them.

Our thinking power should really be the same. Better and better education, better diet to feed the brain, knowledge at our fingertips about anything. Ethics apart, we should, as a species be collectively roaring forward. In developing nations, education is right at the top and all that.

And then we get Trumpist Nazism. Where being dumb is celebrated. And we see it with the reformists too. The common theme is they want to drink "educated" libs tears. That somehow "smartness" = "smugness".

And that is really something from the communist dictator playbook of the 20th century. But the actual Nazis was about one race being superior in every way. But Trumpism is not. It's closer to Mao than the Austrian Corporal.

I have mentioned it a few times here how I compare Trump to Mao more than the Austrian. I think he is a Capitalist Mao.

I also think we keep forgetting of the advances we have made in very recent history. Universal suffrage democracy is only 100 years old, if that. Social media is really only 15 years old. AI a couple of years. And as the tech increases rapidly, it is also .......

... And I have ran out of steam. I have the idea in the noggin, but there is a couple of dots missing that were there, but gone now.

I will post anyway. I find many flat earthers and reformists to be really smart. They appear to choose to appear the opposite. That's where the dots are. It will come back to me.

I really think that the United States is now an oligarchy, the oligarchy being American corporates. And they have the best government a company can buy.

As such, the American citizen is kind of squashed. Their interests are the last to be factored - companies/politicians/lobbyists all carve it up and the leftovers are thrown. So, people are forced into this position or that, driven by media that is corporate owned and takes care of its own interests.

But US citizens, like most of us, sit somewhere in the middle and don't want too much of this or that.

It is fair to say that they are really struggling economically - always the case when a society has loads of billionaires.

For example, when PEW asked voters for their positions on abortion, health care, and so on, in the context of party (Dem/Rep), people answered along party lines.

When the same topics were polled as discussions outside of political affiliation, the polled were centrist in most of their answers.

So to your point, I think that we do "improve," like the sports people. It is just that sometimes, people get corralled and have nowhere to turn.

CaveMum · 27/04/2026 06:38

So apparently the gunman never discharged his weapon - the Secret Service (can’t bring myself to write SS with the other connotations) was hit by “friendly fire”.

Also hearing the the gunman was apprehended on an entirely different floor to the dinner? Anyone else seen that?

MsJinks · 27/04/2026 06:50

dapsnotplimsolls · 27/04/2026 06:23

Chump gets testy on 60 Minutes

Trump tells 60 Minutes in testy interview he ‘wasn’t worried’ during Washington shooting | White House correspondents' dinner shooting | The Guardian https://share.google/oQOV4sfDu7QNEWKbZ

Nothing to worry about had he - I thought when he ‘fell’ he’d mixed up the 2 dramas he had written- that’s a bit cynical- and I can’t believe sometimes I can think like this about a POTUS.

It all seems remarkably different to how the Reagan attempt was handled by the SS team - you’d think they’d be better not worse.

MsJinks · 27/04/2026 06:52

CaveMum · 27/04/2026 06:38

So apparently the gunman never discharged his weapon - the Secret Service (can’t bring myself to write SS with the other connotations) was hit by “friendly fire”.

Also hearing the the gunman was apprehended on an entirely different floor to the dinner? Anyone else seen that?

Edited

It’s all a real mystery - I wondered yesterday how much you get paid to be Trump’s ratings patsy - obviously it’s mainly going to be a ‘to the family’ fee - but he’s notorious too for not paying!

Anyway, I’m not applying for one of those jobs lol.

dapsnotplimsolls · 27/04/2026 06:55

The gunman was arrested on the floor above the basement where the Dinner was taking place.

Zonder · 27/04/2026 06:56

dapsnotplimsolls · 27/04/2026 06:55

The gunman was arrested on the floor above the basement where the Dinner was taking place.

How does that work?

dapsnotplimsolls · 27/04/2026 06:57

I usually avoid conspiracy theories but is it all getting a bit Guy Fawkes? Let the plot continue so X can be caught in the act?

notimagain · 27/04/2026 06:59

@CaveMum

Also hearing the the gunman was apprehended on an entirely different floor to the dinner? Anyone else seen that?

Makes sense of you look at the diagram in this BBC report - stairs led down from the level where the checkpoint was situated to the ballroom level. The gunman never made it as far as the stairs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxd1x2qw2go

dapsnotplimsolls · 27/04/2026 06:59

Zonder · 27/04/2026 06:56

How does that work?

He was never on the same floor.

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