Schrödinger's Strait - Trump Thread #162A

[Spandauer]

The Strait of Schrödinger remains open and closed, safe and dangerous, insurable and uninsurable, blockaded and free.

"You put your tanker in, you put your tanker out
In, out, in, out, you sail it all about
You do the Straits of Hormuz and you turn around
That’s what it’s all about!"

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Got overwhelmed by the 🍊💩's idiot fuckery last time and missed out thread #161 so have designated this one as fake #162...A

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Fair enough. There is an exceptional factor here though. Trump.

Fair enough.

Thatcher was a prototype for Trump, the Falklands War was all about her maintaining/saving her position as leader of the party and the government.

Trump loves dictators. He'd love to be one (probably already is). He admires them and is very jealous of them.

I think you'll find it was Argentina invading British Territory that caused the war. 🙄. Thatcher would have hated Trump and wiped the floor with him.

He's catching up fast on the old dictatorship.

Two men raised an Argentinian flag on an outpost in the Falkland Islands and all hell broke loose.

Trump started the war on Iran because Epstein files

Going off thread for a moment but when it comes to the Falklands conflict there was a bit/a lot of blame on both sides and amongst other things it certainly wasn't the UK FCOs finest hour..

That said it certainly wasn't a case of Thatcher starting something to save her own or the party's skin.

Now back to current events.

Here is a handy reference photo attached. Empty v full oil tanker. I am posting because I am noticing that the Iranian propaganda photos of their speedboats appear to be with empty tankers. But the news networks are not picking that up.

I have no idea why Iran are putting photos out of their speedboats buzzing empty tankers. My suspicion is that they are posing the photos out in the Arabian sea.

I don't think Trump can be in the room when half of these decisions are happening, especially considering he is up all night tweeting and calling radio stations. I think he is effectively locked in his room while the grown-ups talk and let out for chats about "the markets" and "personal business profit" knowing full well if he can see the $$$ signs going up in his bank he won't care so much for the whys or whether he is slowly nailing the coffin on Western Civilisation as we know it. Give him info to play his side quest and keep him out of the real loop.

A month after telling Fox News we don't need their help. US turns to Ukrainian counter-drone tech after Iran attacks - https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-turns-ukrainian-counter-drone-tech-after-iran-attacks-sources-say-2026-04-22/

I think it's a mistake to confuse the people in charge with the people in the armed forces. Not everywhere is as theocratic as the US with it's Jesus Army of Hegseth 😀

Not all the German army officers were Nazis.

One has to ask whether this is really Iran's line in the sand or yet more posturing.

I was introduced to a new Iranian today and she said that they needed regime change but this war is really between China and the US. I wondered whether this is the perpective of an Iranian who has settled overseas and what percentage of in country Iranians now have the same view. (I know it's not as simple as that).

The United States must end its blockade on Iran as a prerequisite for any further ceasefire talks in Islamabad, an Iranian diplomat said Wednesday.
Mojtaba Ferdousi Pour, the head of the Iranian mission in Egypt, told the Associated Press that communications with Pakistani mediators are underway “to implement Iran’s conditions.”
“We won’t negotiate under threat,” he said. “We won’t go to Islamabad before the lifting of the blockade.”
He accused the US of using the ceasefire to build up more forces for a possible resumption of military action against the Islamic Republic.
“Behind the scenes, they say something, but in public, they say and do something else,” he said

How much longer can the world take of this standoff?

How much longer can the political systems world take of this standoff ?

The world ain't going nowhere.

I have found myself idly wondering if the ability of modern political economics to deliver a handful of people to rival the richest man in history - a situation that is increasing is leading (ironically) to a future where money and it's possession has become meaningless ?

Mansur was so rich that as he progressed on pilgrimage entire economies collapsed under the weight of inflation

Former US Secretary of State John Kerry on Colbert: “Netanyahu presented the Iran War case to us too. The response was no. The prediction was regime change, that people would rise up. None of that happened.

“Obama said no. Bush said no. Biden said no. We were lied to about what that war was about.”

How can a man with the intellect and vocabulary skills of a block of cheese become the President of the United States and now totally fuck up the world?

Precisely the question the world is asking.

It's a strange one with theocracies for sure.

For example, that other theocratic state, the Vatican. I found out from something I was watching on RTE a year or 2 ago: that all bishops have a doctorate. That really surprised me, because with my way of thinking, I thought studying theology at that level would result in apostates.

I went hunting for some of their papers I recall. And while many, such as Leo, sort of play it safe and do theirs in some aspect of history, some do pure theology. I could not find any of those papers. I was disappointed I could not find any.

But it goes to show, these folk are clever. And I am pretty sure Iran must be similar.

Americans love cheese. Cheese with everything.

Someone should write his epitaph right now, give it to the moron and see if he likes what will be said about him when he croaks.

It's just a shame most of their cheese leaves a lot to be desired - pretty much like their current "leader".

If you want clever, look up the Jesuits. I was lucky to have one as my Parish priest decades ago and his sermons were so not en pointe. He was very much a 'What would Jesus do" person that the far right in the congregation did not like him.

Back in the 70s, as punk was raging, I recall an interview - possibly with Dave Gilmour of that Pink Floyd they have these days. He made a throwaway comment that it often seemed that musicians in bands had wider tastes in music than their fans.

By the same token, it's often the case that higher up religious leaders are much less rigid in their outlook than the people who follow them. Certainly a lot of scientists are quite happy to acknowledge they have a religious dimension, it not all Dawkins as far as the mind can think. (And Dawkins can really irritate me at times, I think I'd prefer tea with Pope Leo).

Yes, but American cheese is not cheese.

The Jesuits. The intellectual shock troops of the middle ages.