How does someone like Keir Starmer receive a knighthood?

[pusspuss9]

I can't help wondering how Keir Starmer ever got to be made a sir? I always thought sirs were people who had done something special?

The purpose of PMQs now is to get tv coverage - 30-40 seconds of whatever cheap “zinger” for GB news or whatever.

Serves little to no purpose otherwise.

Was far more useful before it was televised.

you believe that anybody that does not share your point of view is trolling?

Have you ever considered that we have all had individual lives and pasts, and that as adults we will be products of our pasts and lived experiences. This means we will all have differing points of view. This does not make
us stupid or trolls .
I hope this clarifies things a bit for you!

There was a great episode of When it hits the Fan on Radio 4 about how David Beckham got his knighthood and the amount of time and effort it took his PR firm
podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/sirs-dames-and-the-pr-game/id1705375359?i=1000712449618

Personally I don't think you are trolling. However, your complete failure to see or understand the wider political context because you want to score cheap points about Starmer undermines your own argument. You would get more engagement if you were more thoughtful, informed and nuanced in your approach.

It’s a bit odd by any standards not to have googled why Starmer was made a sir before posting.

And what do you know about him?

I don’t think you’re a troll.

I do think you should have googled before posting. Would have made for a better discussion (eg discussing should someone with an honour give that up before going into politics)

You really are showing yourself to be incredibly naive and rather foolish. Have you never watched or listened to PMQs before Keir Starmer became PM? He handles PMQs no differently to any prime minister I can remember over the last 50 years, including Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, John Major, Boris Johnson, and Theresa May. That is how PMQs work.

All PMs do this sort of thing at PMQs. I agree it is not a good thing, but it didn't start with Starmer.

Johnson was particularly stellar at not answering the question.

My main point was always about the criteria used for awarding these honours.
I'm no fan of KS - I think he's awful and certainly incompetent for the job of PM in my opinion.
I'm not looking to score cheap points - I don't need to, just look at his popularity ratings.
We are still allowed to criticise those we think deserve it. I also think the labour party is the one most likely to curb this freedom but I don't want to start a discussion on this. I thank God I can still say it though.

We are still allowed to criticise those we think deserve it. I also think the labour party is the one most likely to curb this freedom but I don't want to start a discussion on this. I thank God I can still say it though

Why don't you want to discuss something so important?

Do you now understand how Starmer got his knighthood?

How do you imagine the Labour party will silence you?

I would love to discuss it further but not on here as I think there are too many people on this thread who are unwilling to have a serious discussion (on both sides).
We all learn from listening to the opinions of others and understanding why they think as they do. This leads to greater understanding all round and is the start of being able to reach consensus and try to explain standpoints.

This was your main point ^^
And you didn't think to google before starting a thread?

"I thank God I can I still say it though" - hyperbole and a bit silly.

I hope you learned to put in some research before posting

OK. But as far as I know there is no legislation on the horizon that will silence anyone, but if you know of something it would be good if you could share?

It's literally nothing to do with your point of view. It's that you started a thread full of completely incoherent arguments only to display how incredibly ill-informed you are on those very arguments, which, by the way, are things that you could gain an understanding of in about 15 minutes on google.

You can't even seem to decide what you're against. His record as DPP? His honours? The whole honours system? His elevation to head of the Labour Party? His policies as PM? His performance at PMQ's? Because none of the last three relate in any way to your first posting, but you don't seem to be able to understand that.

Still waiting to find out who those 'masters' were? The ones he somehow pleased enough to receive a knighthood. Can you explain?

And you didn't think to google before starting a thread?

I didn't think google would answer the concerns I had about it.

I thank God I can I still say it though" - hyperbole and a bit silly.
not really when you consider the proposed blasphemy laws being debated in parliament . It's probably closer than we think.

You are pinging around trying to formulate an argument on the basis of what sounds like a lot of GB News talking points.

Google would have absolutely answered the question. But you didnt really have a question - you just wanted to moan about Starmer. At least own it.

Along with thousands of others, I don't like Starmer! I own it., so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

However silly the knighthood thing as a whole is, I don't think the criteria can be 'people pusspuss9 personally likes/agrees with' 😂

I never said it was. but I like your post😂

Starting a thread titled “I don’t like Keir Starmer” would be a better way to own it than faux inquiring about a perfectly googleable fact.