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Chersfrozenface · 31/03/2026 15:20

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:17

Imagine if Scott Mills is innocent of any wrongdoing and the BBC have acted in a panic.

I think a statement from SM is imminent.

Do you really think the BBC didn't consult lawyers before acting?

biwr · 31/03/2026 15:21

SM might not be in a fit state to release statements.
I think a statement is essential though at this point. Do you remember when John Leslie didn’t release a statement or talk to the press? Afterward he admitted he’d been given very bad advice and wishes he’d spoken up.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 31/03/2026 15:23

I think the BBC must be certain of their facts - and were maybe just waiting for a suitabke opportunity/evidence or similar.

There's no way they would have done it so decisively and publicly on just an allegation. They didn't even suspend him 'pending inquiries'; he was sacked instantly.

Fizbosshoes · 31/03/2026 15:23

In the age of social media and the fact that anyone can (and does) speculate....as is happening on this thread, im surprised they have been public that he has been sacked (rather than simply not on air/suspended) ...but then been vague about the reasoning.

The fact that Jeremy Vine has done 2 pieces on it today, without any definite facts, or reasoning, seems very weird, considering they were colleagues

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 31/03/2026 15:26

I agree this is very strange timing; the police investigation was completed years ago for an incident that dates to the last century. So why sack him now. I hope Scott Mills gets his side of the story out soon.

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:27

Chersfrozenface · 31/03/2026 15:20

Do you really think the BBC didn't consult lawyers before acting?

He could have been sacked on a technicality that made it through lawyers (not declaring it when he joined the BBC, perhaps)

But it still doesn't mean there has definitely been a crime

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:30

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 31/03/2026 15:26

I agree this is very strange timing; the police investigation was completed years ago for an incident that dates to the last century. So why sack him now. I hope Scott Mills gets his side of the story out soon.

Me too.

People are already thinking this is a Schofield situation, but it doesn't appear that way.

An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger.

*Pure speculation

ProudAmberTurtle · 31/03/2026 15:41

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:30

Me too.

People are already thinking this is a Schofield situation, but it doesn't appear that way.

An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger.

*Pure speculation

The 'early 20s Scott' was an adult.

The 'young lad' was under the age of 16 and was a child.

Avantiagain · 31/03/2026 15:43

"An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger."

If it was that I doubt the police would have done a long investigation about it.

Newsenmum · 31/03/2026 15:45

Avantiagain · 31/03/2026 15:43

"An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger."

If it was that I doubt the police would have done a long investigation about it.

Also under 16 is 🤢 have you seen a boy that young? They look YOUNG.

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:49

Avantiagain · 31/03/2026 15:43

"An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger."

If it was that I doubt the police would have done a long investigation about it.

Indeed, so I don't think we've got the whole picture yet.

Parsleyforme · 31/03/2026 15:51

Avantiagain · 31/03/2026 15:43

"An early-20s Scott could have had a relationship with a young lad who said* he was older, but later found out he was younger."

If it was that I doubt the police would have done a long investigation about it.

And people in genuine consenting relationships don’t usually go the police about it decades later

YourMagentaCat · 31/03/2026 15:52

I remember the John Leslie stuff vaguely but I was at school then. What exactly did he do?

LetterBetter · 31/03/2026 15:54

Parsleyforme · 31/03/2026 15:51

And people in genuine consenting relationships don’t usually go the police about it decades later

I can think of a few reasons why someone might do, but without more of a picture or hearing Scott's side, it doesn't look good does it.

biwr · 31/03/2026 15:56

YourMagentaCat · 31/03/2026 15:52

I remember the John Leslie stuff vaguely but I was at school then. What exactly did he do?

well it started with a tv presenter naming JL as someone who had allegedly assaulted another presenter. The name had been the subject of rumours but the TV presenter decided to out him in his daily talk show. The tv presenter has never confirmed that JL was the guy she talks about in her book. Then someone else accused him of assault and he was found not guilty after a trial.
So yes, he was cancelled with no guilty verdict.
(which we know doesn’t guarantee innocence, but seems unfair to end a career with no proof of
guilt etc)

LoyalMember · 31/03/2026 15:57

BeaRightThere · 31/03/2026 14:22

He was in his twenties when the alleged incident(s) occurred.

And the teenage boy was under 16. As I said, a dirty old man.

Supple · 31/03/2026 15:59

Passingthrough123 · 31/03/2026 12:20

Which bit of the CPS said there was no case to answer in 2019 are you not getting?

Honestly, I am so fed up of people being hanged by the public court of opinion. We may as well scrap the "not guilty until proven otherwise" as the fundamental principle our legal system is founded on. What's the point when the public knows better about their guilt, eh?

What if it was your brother or father who'd been wrongly accused of a serious sexual offence but thankfully for their sake it never made it to court because CPS believed the charges didn't stack up, but everyone thought they were guilty anyway and condemned them for it? How would you feel if people still called them paedos?

97% of rape cases don’t end up being prosecuted / successful prosecution. If it was my father I’d be asking lots of questions and giving the word of the accuser a lot of weight,

To get to that stage of briefing police takes incredible courage.

If reports are correct - and no statement from Scott Mills it’s likely he was a pedophile abuser and worse because it won’t just be once he groomed a child or breached sexual boundaries.

Franpie · 31/03/2026 15:59

biwr · 31/03/2026 15:21

SM might not be in a fit state to release statements.
I think a statement is essential though at this point. Do you remember when John Leslie didn’t release a statement or talk to the press? Afterward he admitted he’d been given very bad advice and wishes he’d spoken up.

He doesn’t need to be in a fit state. He has management. They should be drafting a statement and releasing it for him.

Pedallleur · 31/03/2026 16:01

YourMagentaCat · 31/03/2026 15:52

I remember the John Leslie stuff vaguely but I was at school then. What exactly did he do?

Serial sexual assault/poss rape. Anytime anyplace. Also dated a young actress Catherine Zeta Jones and taught her what she needed to know. The fact he even said that tells you what an utter shit he is/was

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 31/03/2026 16:02

YourMagentaCat · 31/03/2026 15:52

I remember the John Leslie stuff vaguely but I was at school then. What exactly did he do?

Ulrika Jonsson alleged someone had raped her, didn’t name anyone then John Leslie was investigated for the offences but subsequently found not guilty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Leslie_(TV_presenter)#:~:text=studio%2C%20in%201989.-,Personal%20life,with%20his%20girlfriend%20Kate%20Moore en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Leslie_(TV_presenter)#:~:text=studio%2C%20in%201989.-,Personal%20life,with%20his%20girlfriend%20Kate%20Moore.]]]]

I worked with someone who worked in PR at the time and she was the main source of the gossip, said it had been known for years.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 31/03/2026 16:04

Pedallleur · 31/03/2026 16:01

Serial sexual assault/poss rape. Anytime anyplace. Also dated a young actress Catherine Zeta Jones and taught her what she needed to know. The fact he even said that tells you what an utter shit he is/was

He wasn’t actually convicted though. Whether that’s the fault of the judicial services I don’t know though.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 31/03/2026 16:05

biwr · 31/03/2026 15:56

well it started with a tv presenter naming JL as someone who had allegedly assaulted another presenter. The name had been the subject of rumours but the TV presenter decided to out him in his daily talk show. The tv presenter has never confirmed that JL was the guy she talks about in her book. Then someone else accused him of assault and he was found not guilty after a trial.
So yes, he was cancelled with no guilty verdict.
(which we know doesn’t guarantee innocence, but seems unfair to end a career with no proof of
guilt etc)

Judging from what my PR friend told me John Leslie was very sleazy. As to what, when and where I have no idea. It ruined his career though.

Franpie · 31/03/2026 16:06

biwr · 31/03/2026 15:56

well it started with a tv presenter naming JL as someone who had allegedly assaulted another presenter. The name had been the subject of rumours but the TV presenter decided to out him in his daily talk show. The tv presenter has never confirmed that JL was the guy she talks about in her book. Then someone else accused him of assault and he was found not guilty after a trial.
So yes, he was cancelled with no guilty verdict.
(which we know doesn’t guarantee innocence, but seems unfair to end a career with no proof of
guilt etc)

But what is massively telling is that she never came out and defended him by saying that it wasn’t him.

If it wasn’t him and he was being cancelled unfairly, she would have spoken up.

likelysuspect · 31/03/2026 16:27

Fizbosshoes · 31/03/2026 15:23

In the age of social media and the fact that anyone can (and does) speculate....as is happening on this thread, im surprised they have been public that he has been sacked (rather than simply not on air/suspended) ...but then been vague about the reasoning.

The fact that Jeremy Vine has done 2 pieces on it today, without any definite facts, or reasoning, seems very weird, considering they were colleagues

I didnt see or hear that but thats dreadful

Does have a show on Channel 5 as well?

Additup · 31/03/2026 16:31

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 31/03/2026 15:23

I think the BBC must be certain of their facts - and were maybe just waiting for a suitabke opportunity/evidence or similar.

There's no way they would have done it so decisively and publicly on just an allegation. They didn't even suspend him 'pending inquiries'; he was sacked instantly.

I'm not sure. I wouldn't trust the BBC to organise a piss up in a brewery after the whole Huw Edwards thing. I think they actually defended him didn't they despite evidence of wrong doing?

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