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Thread 46 Starmer: Meloj kaj kastoroj sur monbiletoj, arbaro de kolero

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DuncinToffee · 24/03/2026 11:48

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Karistyleaftea · 26/03/2026 15:53

@LizzieW1969 I too don't understand how some people fall for his patter.
I think things are starting to turn "agin" Reform somewhat and we just need a few more intelligent journos to start asking questions he doesn't like to see how his demeanour changes.
IMO he is not professional , unlike our PM.

PandoraSocks · 26/03/2026 16:00

Reform nembers seem to be on Question Time every week now. This week it is Tom Skinner.

I know eff all about him except that I think Farage made a big thing of him joining?

Piggywaspushed · 26/03/2026 16:01

Apprentice contestant. Not the brightest. Plays the barrow boy but actaully privately educated. His businesses are unsuccessful.

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:18

PandoraSocks · 26/03/2026 16:00

Reform nembers seem to be on Question Time every week now. This week it is Tom Skinner.

I know eff all about him except that I think Farage made a big thing of him joining?

They are in Clacton this week so it makes sense. By all accounts they did have some issues trying to find someone from reform to appear.

PandoraSocks · 26/03/2026 16:33

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:18

They are in Clacton this week so it makes sense. By all accounts they did have some issues trying to find someone from reform to appear.

Oh, how strange the local MP wasn't available...

MsJinks · 26/03/2026 16:35

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:18

They are in Clacton this week so it makes sense. By all accounts they did have some issues trying to find someone from reform to appear.

Surely they should have Farage on in Clacton - probably realised he’d never be in that vicinity so didn’t ask.
Be interesting to see how the audience is feeling.

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:36

I know, amazing, isn’t it? Probably busy running a surgery for his constituents.

I did actually think when they announced it a few weeks ago that he might actually turn up for the. But alas it seems not even QT can get him to Clacton.

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2026 16:37

Piggywaspushed · 26/03/2026 16:01

Apprentice contestant. Not the brightest. Plays the barrow boy but actaully privately educated. His businesses are unsuccessful.

He’s on QT? That should be an entertaining episode. I’ll make sure to watch tonight.

MsJinks · 26/03/2026 16:41

Karistyleaftea · 26/03/2026 15:53

@LizzieW1969 I too don't understand how some people fall for his patter.
I think things are starting to turn "agin" Reform somewhat and we just need a few more intelligent journos to start asking questions he doesn't like to see how his demeanour changes.
IMO he is not professional , unlike our PM.

He’s appalling when questioned- it’s not his skill set - I know like what is? But he is good at agitating it seems but that’s just shouting and barracking and no steadiness or thoughtfulness needed.

Hopefully, he well be quizzed more and more and reveal his awfulness and his lack of proper knowledge on how to run stuff to everyone. Boris was a Billy Liar who blustered blatantly but I guess it came over as not quite as overtly angry and lost when challenged- comes to something when boris can get the better in a comparison.

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 16:48

Isn't part of the Reform schtick this narrative that they are somehow "fighting the elites" ? Which means they can use their adversaries competence against them ?

People need to remember having been to a school where people put their hands up to say "Miss, it's not fair so-and-so got higher marks just because they knew the answers".

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2026 16:49

Johnson had charm if you like that sort of thing. Farage has whatever the opposite is. I can see why people were taken in by Johnson.

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:49

Farage totally loses it when he’s actually held to account. Pretty much every time. If he get’s an easy ride and isn’t challenged he’s fine.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2037199012084711591

I wasn’t able to take part in #BBCQT from Clacton tonight, as we were told MPs are not allowed to appear on the show in their own constituencies. I’m sure I’ll be back on before too long!

The excuses are in. It won’t surprise you to know the BBC have no such rule and MPs have appeared when QT has been in their constituency.

Nigel Farage MP (@Nigel_Farage) on X

I wasn’t able to take part in #BBCQT from Clacton tonight, as we were told MPs are not allowed to appear on the show in their own constituencies. I’m sure I’ll be back on before too long!

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2037199012084711591

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 16:56

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:49

Farage totally loses it when he’s actually held to account. Pretty much every time. If he get’s an easy ride and isn’t challenged he’s fine.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2037199012084711591

I wasn’t able to take part in #BBCQT from Clacton tonight, as we were told MPs are not allowed to appear on the show in their own constituencies. I’m sure I’ll be back on before too long!

The excuses are in. It won’t surprise you to know the BBC have no such rule and MPs have appeared when QT has been in their constituency.

1 second with something smarter than NIgel:

It sounds like you’re pointing out a contradiction rather than anything genuinely procedural. There isn’t a formal BBC rule that automatically prevents MPs from appearing on Question Time when it’s in their own constituency—what usually exists is more of an editorial convention about balance, optics, and avoiding giving a local MP an unfair “home advantage.”

In practice, though, that convention gets applied inconsistently. MPs have appeared on the programme in or near their constituencies before, especially if they’re high-profile or central to the topic being discussed. So when someone claims it’s a strict rule, it often doesn’t hold up under scrutiny—it’s more of a flexible guideline than a hard restriction.
What you’re really seeing is likely a post-hoc justification rather than a genuine barrier. The decision is almost always editorial: who they want on the panel, what narrative they’re shaping, and how they think it will land with the audience.

PandoraSocks · 26/03/2026 16:56

He has one of his "rallies" tonight it seems.

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2026 17:00

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 16:49

Farage totally loses it when he’s actually held to account. Pretty much every time. If he get’s an easy ride and isn’t challenged he’s fine.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/2037199012084711591

I wasn’t able to take part in #BBCQT from Clacton tonight, as we were told MPs are not allowed to appear on the show in their own constituencies. I’m sure I’ll be back on before too long!

The excuses are in. It won’t surprise you to know the BBC have no such rule and MPs have appeared when QT has been in their constituency.

I thought the Beeb encouraged MPs to appear on QT and Any Questions when they’re recorded in their constituency.

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:02

BIossomtoes · 26/03/2026 17:00

I thought the Beeb encouraged MPs to appear on QT and Any Questions when they’re recorded in their constituency.

If they wanted Farage on, it would have to come from the US.

MsJinks · 26/03/2026 17:08

It is a shame these ‘rules’ never included - not having a non MP on as many times as he agrees, and also not disproportionately representing a party with few MPs.

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:14

I wonder if the same problem is behind the "surge" in Reform ?

FWIW I smelled dodgy data the moment I saw the headline - it was far too convenient for certain US-born agendas

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwjxx5eyn1o

The back view of a young woman looking down the aisle of a church with wooden pews either side of her. She has a dark blonde ponytail and is wearing grey-green trousers, an orange, black and red striped top and has a purple rucksack.

Church attendance report pulled after YouGov finds 'fraudulent' responses

The original report claimed a rise in young people attending church in England and Wales.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwjxx5eyn1o

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:25

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 16:56

1 second with something smarter than NIgel:

It sounds like you’re pointing out a contradiction rather than anything genuinely procedural. There isn’t a formal BBC rule that automatically prevents MPs from appearing on Question Time when it’s in their own constituency—what usually exists is more of an editorial convention about balance, optics, and avoiding giving a local MP an unfair “home advantage.”

In practice, though, that convention gets applied inconsistently. MPs have appeared on the programme in or near their constituencies before, especially if they’re high-profile or central to the topic being discussed. So when someone claims it’s a strict rule, it often doesn’t hold up under scrutiny—it’s more of a flexible guideline than a hard restriction.
What you’re really seeing is likely a post-hoc justification rather than a genuine barrier. The decision is almost always editorial: who they want on the panel, what narrative they’re shaping, and how they think it will land with the audience.

"Not that sort of AI"

You’re right to question it—there are clear, documented examples where MPs have appeared on Question Time in or very near their own constituencies, which shows it’s not a strict rule.
Here are a few solid examples:

  • Jacob Rees-Mogg
  • Appeared on Question Time when it was filmed in the South West, close to his North East Somerset constituency. At the time, he was a high-profile figure (especially around Brexit), and the BBC clearly prioritised his relevance over any “local” concern.
  • Nigel Farage
  • Has appeared multiple times in areas where he had strong political ties or had stood as a candidate (e.g., Thanet). Again, no rigid exclusion applied.
  • Boris Johnson
  • While London-based appearances are more diffuse, he has been featured in areas closely associated with his political base. Given London constituencies are tightly packed, the “local MP” issue becomes even blurrier—and yet appearances still happen.
  • Nicola Sturgeon
  • Regularly appeared on BBC panel shows, including in Scotland, often not far from her Glasgow Southside constituency. The BBC didn’t treat proximity as disqualifying.
  • Sadiq Khan
  • Has appeared in London-based editions of Question Time. Again, no strict avoidance despite obvious geographic relevance.
What this shows
  • There’s no consistently enforced rule.
  • The BBC uses editorial discretion, not a blanket ban.
  • High-profile or topical figures often override any “local appearance” concerns.
So when someone claims an MP can’t appear because it’s in their constituency, that’s almost certainly a justification rather than a rule. The real decision tends to be about balance, optics, or who producers want on that particular panel.
RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 17:39

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:14

I wonder if the same problem is behind the "surge" in Reform ?

FWIW I smelled dodgy data the moment I saw the headline - it was far too convenient for certain US-born agendas

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwjxx5eyn1o

Oops!

Llttledrummergirls · 26/03/2026 17:41

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:02

If they wanted Farage on, it would have to come from the US.

Or more accurately, the Kremlin via America.

Piggywaspushed · 26/03/2026 17:42

Janeand I may be the same person! Or it's that hive mind we all have...

SerendipityJane · 26/03/2026 17:47

Piggywaspushed · 26/03/2026 17:42

Janeand I may be the same person! Or it's that hive mind we all have...

That would be the less bright explanation.

Much more likely is that sharing this thread suggests certain common interests that in this day and age will trigger a lot of similar if not identical stories in whatever is feeding us our news.

Mathematics, science and statistics - real woo killers.

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/03/2026 18:08

Nah I prefer the you being the same person explanation.

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