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Why do people reject Islam?

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SplodgeWaddler · 21/03/2026 09:33

Just curious really. A lovely colleague of mine used to be a Muslim but was quite vocal in telling us she was no longer a Muslim. It was a clear, decisive rejection of the religion and not just a lapse of faith.

Has anyone done similar, I'd love to know your reasons.

There were many Muslim girls at my school, some of whom had massively restricted prospects in life. One girl (who was a bit wild) told us she was worried that she was going to be forced into an arranged marriage. She just didn't come back one day, she was under 16.

Things do seem to have moved on since then though but there still seems to be huge variation.

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Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:56

Friendlygingercat · 26/03/2026 11:51

I describe myself as religious but not Christian. I do believe in a supreme being but dont subscribe to any particular denomination. I am also fascinated by the faiths of other people. Ive visited many Islamic countries travelling solo. Some of these countries (for example Iran and Syria) it was best to avoid political discussion and keep to safe topics. I found local people happy to discuss their religious beliefs and to speak about Islam. We did not try to convert one another, simply to discuss our differing religious convictions with respect. I dont reject Islam any more than I would any other faith. As a retired academic I have a purely intellectual intrest in what sustains people.

And thats great to be respectful and learn and be more aware.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:57

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:55

Its not the country but the individual who represents the good teachings of islam.

Ive already expressed my views on Afghanistan several times. Not all may be bad apples but its sad the state it is in.

The religion is reflected in the laws of those countries.

If no one can say they’re good laws perhaps discussion should be had around the religion.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:59

pottylolly · 26/03/2026 09:30

For women it’s all or nothing. You have to do everything Islam says to get into ‘heaven’. For men provided you pray 5 x a day & don’t commit any major sins you’re golden.

But even then, as per Islamic teachings in the UK, women who convert aren’t treated as equals to women born in Islam. This is despite 70% of converts to Islam being women.

Most of the women who give up Islam fall into several camps:

  1. Daughters of female converts whose mothers were treated poorly by their muslim family.
  2. Daughters of females who were born muslim who were treated poorly by their fathers.
  3. Women who don’t or can’t fit into the cultural (as opposed to religious) norms. Eg in Arab countries women can and do and are encouraged hold extremely responsible jobs while marrying & kids. Eg in the military, stem etc. But Indian, Pakistani and Afghanistani families still expect women to centre marriage & kids to the exclusion of everything else.

Ehhhh? I feel equal as a revert to people who are born muslims. My born Muslim sisters treat me equal to them and are thrilled at me reverting to islam.

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Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 12:02

EvieBB · 25/03/2026 21:33

Not so much a choice as subliminal brainwashing imo. I could accept it more if men had that "choice" as well but to put the onus only on women to dress "modestly" reeks of control and misogyny

Hi.

Men are ordered to cover as well. Muslim men shouldn't show their thighs or knees or waist or stomachs. Muslim men are not permitted to wear short shorts or be topless. Men also are not allowed to wear silk or gold jewellery. Men are also commanded to lower their eyes and be respectful and courteous towards women, irrespective if the woman are Muslim or not. Muslim men must also be humble and not walk with pride and ego.

MaturingCheeseball · 26/03/2026 12:21

I find it all depressing. Whilst most people in this country have come to be ambivalent about religion - live and let live - we now have a growing number of people believing and actively participating in a creed which dictates many aspects of life. It also has aspects directly opposed to laws of the land.

Also the veneration of one particular religion is confusing to me. Particularly by people who would readily sneer at a churchgoer. eg in dd’s Yr5 class a girl started wearing a full covering including mask. She didn’t do Games/PE etc. Instead of being “respectful” the school should have taken a stand against this practice.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 12:24

MaturingCheeseball · 26/03/2026 12:21

I find it all depressing. Whilst most people in this country have come to be ambivalent about religion - live and let live - we now have a growing number of people believing and actively participating in a creed which dictates many aspects of life. It also has aspects directly opposed to laws of the land.

Also the veneration of one particular religion is confusing to me. Particularly by people who would readily sneer at a churchgoer. eg in dd’s Yr5 class a girl started wearing a full covering including mask. She didn’t do Games/PE etc. Instead of being “respectful” the school should have taken a stand against this practice.

It’s baffling. No one will say the laws other countries put in place due to a religion are good but here any discussion needs to be squashed.

suburburban · 26/03/2026 12:47

MaturingCheeseball · 26/03/2026 12:21

I find it all depressing. Whilst most people in this country have come to be ambivalent about religion - live and let live - we now have a growing number of people believing and actively participating in a creed which dictates many aspects of life. It also has aspects directly opposed to laws of the land.

Also the veneration of one particular religion is confusing to me. Particularly by people who would readily sneer at a churchgoer. eg in dd’s Yr5 class a girl started wearing a full covering including mask. She didn’t do Games/PE etc. Instead of being “respectful” the school should have taken a stand against this practice.

Yes i agree

i absolutely hate it when primary age dc are having to wear this

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 12:49

WhatNextImScared · 26/03/2026 09:40

Revert is the word that Muslims use because they believe every baby is born a Muslim but those who aren’t initially in the faith lose it, then ‘revert’ to their original faith.

Thanks for the explanation.
Sounds a bit like Mormons baptising our ancestors.

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 12:52

Mydogthewhippet · 26/03/2026 11:11

Has anyone here read the Quran or the Hadiths?

I read it and hated it. Can’t understand the appeal. Lots of violence and war and very boring

Have you read the Bible? When the earth opens up to swallow the sinners, for example. Plenty of violence in the Old Testament.

suburburban · 26/03/2026 12:53

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:21

So throw away OT and go with NT?
YOU CANT PICK AND CHOOSE!

No not at all, learn from OT and what went wrong

Jesus talks about this in the gospels and there is Peter’s dream

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 12:54

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 12:52

Have you read the Bible? When the earth opens up to swallow the sinners, for example. Plenty of violence in the Old Testament.

Including whack the babies head on a rock.

And if a woman rushes to defend her husband whose being assaulted , and if she intervene by trying to help her husband and grabs the other man (by his privates) she should have her hand cut off. Without pity

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 12:56

suburburban · 26/03/2026 12:53

No not at all, learn from OT and what went wrong

Jesus talks about this in the gospels and there is Peter’s dream

Do you believe jesus came to change and make the new Testament?

ThreadneedleRoad · 26/03/2026 12:56

suburburban · 26/03/2026 12:53

No not at all, learn from OT and what went wrong

Jesus talks about this in the gospels and there is Peter’s dream

You keep saying this. What is your evidence that the OT is supposed to show believers 'what went wrong'? What does that mean? Why wasn't God doing a better job of showing up for his creation? Why wait thousands of years, intervening only occasionally in favour of one particular people, and then send your child to earth in human form to spend a few years rambling around Galilee as an itinerant preacher making enemies and dying a horrible death, and say 'Ta-DAH! Look what I did for you!'?

angelos02 · 26/03/2026 12:57

The pp about a young girl not being able to do sport at school is absolutely outrageous. Hopefully it was a one off and isn't the norm.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 13:05

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 12:52

Have you read the Bible? When the earth opens up to swallow the sinners, for example. Plenty of violence in the Old Testament.

Old texts represent a time, the trick is to not bring forward the same punishments today.

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 13:07

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 13:05

Old texts represent a time, the trick is to not bring forward the same punishments today.

Well yes of course. I wasn't suggesting the earth should be swallowing anyone, nor do I know how to bring that about.

DonttouchthatLarry · 26/03/2026 13:10

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 21/03/2026 10:52

I was baptised as a baby, and I went to a catholic school, but I don’t follow the religion because I don’t believe in any of it.

Same here.

Tablesandchairs23 · 26/03/2026 13:11

Probably because all religion is bollocks.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 13:12

Gwenhwyfar · 26/03/2026 13:07

Well yes of course. I wasn't suggesting the earth should be swallowing anyone, nor do I know how to bring that about.

Some texts still do get used as a basis for punishment, especially against women. That’s a major problem.

The Taliban has reintroduced stoning. It’s thousands of years of children being indoctrinated by adults that gets us here.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 13:14

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 12:54

Including whack the babies head on a rock.

And if a woman rushes to defend her husband whose being assaulted , and if she intervene by trying to help her husband and grabs the other man (by his privates) she should have her hand cut off. Without pity

None of these violent Bible teachings happen by law now.

suburburban · 26/03/2026 13:16

ThreadneedleRoad · 26/03/2026 12:56

You keep saying this. What is your evidence that the OT is supposed to show believers 'what went wrong'? What does that mean? Why wasn't God doing a better job of showing up for his creation? Why wait thousands of years, intervening only occasionally in favour of one particular people, and then send your child to earth in human form to spend a few years rambling around Galilee as an itinerant preacher making enemies and dying a horrible death, and say 'Ta-DAH! Look what I did for you!'?

I’m at work on a phone so I may reply later

I’ve said it twice. Maybe have a google about OT?

Lookingdownthebarrell · 26/03/2026 13:16

Really, with a sample size of one you say “people” are rejecting Islam? I take it you also don’t know anyone who was born in any other religion that doesn’t practice it?

Oh and bored with your own question? Or reading with pop corn?

1415isgreat · 26/03/2026 15:50

inamarina · 25/03/2026 20:02

My point wasn’t why some Muslim women wear hijabs and some don’t.
It wasn’t even primarily about hijabs, but more about face coverings.
We’re being told the Quran isn’t mandating them and that’s it’s simply something some women choose to wear.
My question was why it was almost exclusively Muslim women who choose to cover their faces in public even though apparently they don’t have to.

Because. It. Is. An. Individual. Choice.

They may not have to but historically some women have done - so some ladies CHOOSE to do the same.

Seedlingsparrow · 26/03/2026 16:10

@1415isgreat but wearing a hijab is one of the reasons that Muslim women use for not cycling/using a bike.

From AI
Only about 10% of female cyclists in the UK are from ethnic backgrounds, the figure is significantly less for Muslim women again.

I cannot understand why a religion such as Islam which places such importance on being a Khalifah of the Earth, It is a core teaching, yet has followers that reject core teachings in favour of a non mandatory choice of clothing. Our Planet matters. Islam teaches that Planet Earth is sacred and Muslims have a fundamental duty to ensure its survival. Yet that is quietly ignored in favour of fashion.
I just don't understand how Muslim women place non mandatory cultural choices over actions that help save our sacred planet.

SugarPuffSandwiches · 26/03/2026 16:16

"From AI" 😭😂