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Why do people reject Islam?

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SplodgeWaddler · 21/03/2026 09:33

Just curious really. A lovely colleague of mine used to be a Muslim but was quite vocal in telling us she was no longer a Muslim. It was a clear, decisive rejection of the religion and not just a lapse of faith.

Has anyone done similar, I'd love to know your reasons.

There were many Muslim girls at my school, some of whom had massively restricted prospects in life. One girl (who was a bit wild) told us she was worried that she was going to be forced into an arranged marriage. She just didn't come back one day, she was under 16.

Things do seem to have moved on since then though but there still seems to be huge variation.

OP posts:
ThreadneedleRoad · 26/03/2026 11:14

Mydogthewhippet · 26/03/2026 11:11

Has anyone here read the Quran or the Hadiths?

I read it and hated it. Can’t understand the appeal. Lots of violence and war and very boring

I have, yes. I didn't find it at all appealing. It was like the duller bits of the Old Testament in a bad translation.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:16

inamarina · 21/03/2026 20:19

She did mention women being allowed to “enjoy” her hair, along with all the male family members. I know what you mean though.
Personally, I find the objectification of hair really odd. It would never occur to me to think that other women or my husband might be “enjoying” my hair or that other men might be wondering what colour it could possibly be.
I mean, it’s just hair.

To you, its just hair.

But it actually is your beauty, ask yourself why in hair adverts they use only women? And sometimes acting like theyre having an orgasm while washing the hair, swishing it around etc.
Muslim women choose to cover their hair, neck and chest because we beleive in covering and modesty, and keeping our beauty for ourselves and our husbands and our female friends/relatives.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:17

ThreadneedleRoad · 26/03/2026 11:14

I have, yes. I didn't find it at all appealing. It was like the duller bits of the Old Testament in a bad translation.

There are a lot of similarities between old testament and the quran. I dont find it dull at all. Its interesting to see what mirrors. But I dont beleive in the bible to be the absolute word of God. Only some

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Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:18

Fairyliz · 21/03/2026 20:32

Because they realise how stupid it is to live your life following rules ‘made up’ by a non existent sky fairy.
It’s absolutely bizarre when you think about it, you would think I was crazy if I believed in little green men talking to me but people follow religion without questioning it.

A non existent sky fairy is what you feel but others dont. Majority of the world is Muslim and Christian.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:20

EmpressaurusKitty · 22/03/2026 05:19

I dont wear hijab because men cant control their sexual urges. Muslim men aren't sex mad men who cant control themselves when they see a woman with her hair out. Hijab is simply there as well as modesty as an identity.

I was thinking of the likes of the Taliban & the men who support them with my castration comment. I really don’t think any fate would be too bad for men who treat women as they do.

Afghanistan do not represent islam. At all. I as a Muslim think theyre vile and strange. Not all obviously but its like saying the IDF represents Jews when they dont.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:21

suburburban · 22/03/2026 13:16

Yes I understand but the OT is there to show us what went wrong and I agree it was awful

are you referring to Genesis about the rape?

New testament is very different

So throw away OT and go with NT?
YOU CANT PICK AND CHOOSE!

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:24

1415isgreat · 22/03/2026 12:06

Yeah, that’s what you think as an outsider. You can’t speak for every single Muslim population around the world by meeting 5 people in your life - you just can’t.

Exactly. You cant just assume when you see Muslim women we are extremely unhappy and in pain wearing the headscarf.
Sure there are probably some women or girls that have been forced to wear it, but thats wrong and stupid. And in islam, we are reminded by God to use gentle speech and gentle reminders.

I love it. I can't imagine not wearing my hijab. Its my identity, its my life. I really love it and my 13 yr old does too.

ThreadneedleRoad · 26/03/2026 11:25

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:17

There are a lot of similarities between old testament and the quran. I dont find it dull at all. Its interesting to see what mirrors. But I dont beleive in the bible to be the absolute word of God. Only some

The Bible obviously isn't the 'absolute word of God' unless you're a fundamentalist with very little knowledge of the origins of the key text of your faith. It's a collection of texts written by different people at different times out of completely different circumstances, and includes bits of history, poetry, proverbs, folklore, genealogy, dietary rules, biographies, prophecies etc.

I suppose the difference I found with the Quran was that even the most 'bang your head on the wall' dull bits of the OT (who begat who, stipulations about what you can eat and wear etc) are often linguistically gorgeous in the King James version.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:26

Vivaea · 22/03/2026 14:01

It’s not really comparable with Christianity. Old Testament can be placed in historical context, it made sense with the thinking of the time and has been replaced with less barbaric practices. Christianity has evolved.

The Quran is believed to be the literal word of God and the final revelation, so incredibly hard to change any part of it. Although interpretations vary depending on whether certain passages are specific to that particular society at that time or can be used in modern society. The ones about Jihad for example; majority of Muslims see that as instructions to the people of Medina fighting their oppressors but you also have extremists reading those and killing innocents today.

The real true meaning of jihad is struggling and striving through difficult times. Saying that its holy war is wrong. There is no such thing as a holy war.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:29

angelos02 · 26/03/2026 10:38

If people should be allowed to 'choose their faith', why are there faith schools? How does anyone know which faith, if any, their children are going to be?

It’s not schools really it’s adults generally. If adults didn’t indoctrinate dc with beliefs religion would likely not survive.

The beliefs about the exposure of parts of bodies etc they’d just fall away.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:32

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:20

Afghanistan do not represent islam. At all. I as a Muslim think theyre vile and strange. Not all obviously but its like saying the IDF represents Jews when they dont.

Which country does represent Islam well in your view?

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:36

1415isgreat · 25/03/2026 06:20

Where does British come into this? Her point was about why do some Muslims choose to wear hijab and some don’t? My point was why do some (British or American or whatever) women choose to wear shorts and some choose to wear trousers. I will answer - because it is a CHOICE.

Hijab is not British clothes statement is silly. Look at our ancestors. A lot of British women would cover their hair. My great grandmother's both did. When going to chapel or going out for groceries

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:38

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:32

Which country does represent Islam well in your view?

There isnt a specific country. Muslims come from everywhere. You can have some very lovely Muslims from around the world. Even there are is a growing rate of white British muslims ☪️

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:42

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:38

There isnt a specific country. Muslims come from everywhere. You can have some very lovely Muslims from around the world. Even there are is a growing rate of white British muslims ☪️

Yes they do. You mentioned Afghanistan as not representing Islam, ‘it’s vile and strange’ - quote from your post, so the others that have the religion as dominant do it well in your view?

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:44

Seedlingsparrow · 25/03/2026 08:04

Qur'anic teachings on the environment emphasize that the Earth is a sacred trust (Amanah) created in perfect balance (Mizan), with humans appointed as stewards (Khalifah) responsible for its protection, preservation, and sustainable use.
it just seems to me that some Muslims quietly ignore this fundamental duty. I would love to hear from MN posters why Muslim women are not leading the way in using bikes, avoiding planes as a means of travel and adopting ‘Green ‘ practices and setting an example to others by taking care of the Earth and all life on earth.

Dear friend, I am sorry that I cannot speak for the entire Muslim population on why theyre not using bikes more and less carbon footprint I really am.
There is a duty yes , not to pollute and be wasteful etc. I agree with what you mean but I cannot answer for the ummah. I dont drive and a lot of people say with all my kids it would be good for me to drive, instead of relying on buses, the way I see it, we have 1 car, im using less carbon footprint, I recycle. I dont use bikes as I have 6 kids and it would be hard to manage myself and all kids on bikes on busy roads and pavements as I live in a busy city. I'd love the idea of cycling with a carriage for the younger two at the back but im happy with using public transport when I need to for work/shopping/appointments and whatever else and using only the one car with my husband. I too worry about global warming and wish for better too.

Anewerforest · 26/03/2026 11:44

JLou08 · 21/03/2026 11:23

Just say what you actually think OP instead of making a thread to get people to say it for you.
You're not curious about why people reject Islam, you think it's due to restrictions on women. It's in your post but fluffed up with false curiosity so you can play innocent if the thread doesn't go the way you want it to.

Looks like a bit of anti-Muslim propaganda. Faux naive question intended to provoke reactions, and very likely replied to by people and/or bots who are part of the same campaign.

FrizzyFrizbee · 26/03/2026 11:45

You might find interesting perspectives on the website “One Law For All”, OP.

onelawforall.org.uk/prominent-supporters/

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 26/03/2026 11:49

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:09

Examples please. And if so, then they have gone against islam as the quran clearly states there is no compulsion in islam. It is a sin to force people to convert. You only take the shahadah (statement of testimony of faith) when you beleive in your heart in One God and his prophets including Noah, Abraham, Jesus and Muhammed!

You what?

Try reading some history.

Of course history has always been the true enemy of religion and of ideology. Thats why the post war state was set up with freedom of information and with a public service built on a shared history. And why so much effort has been spent on overturning all of it.

It almost makes me wonder if there’s an invested interest in making me want to think that Britain is now an entirely authoritarian propaganda-based state. Of course, it is… but the inanity of your statement really is beyond a joke.

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:50

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:42

Yes they do. You mentioned Afghanistan as not representing Islam, ‘it’s vile and strange’ - quote from your post, so the others that have the religion as dominant do it well in your view?

I dont know what youre trying to get at.

I cant pinpoint a specific country. Muslims come from all over, Norway to Palestine, Sweden to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Poland. They can all be wonderful people if they follow the true teachings of islam .

https://www.islamicity.org/10984/44-self-improvement-lessons-from-quranic-guidance/

Islam/Quran tells us lots of good and positive messages to be peaceful, respectful, kind, honest, dont lie and gossip and spread malicious rumours, dont get drunk and dont do drugs, be kind and dutiful to your parents, help the poor and help the orphans, if you take in an orphan and they have money from their families who passed on or whatever, dont spend even one penny of it, be kind to animals, help elderly, dont waste, dont over spend, smile and be kind and patient, be good to children and women, dont hurt women and children in war, dont kill and dont harm others, the list goes on......

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:51

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 26/03/2026 11:49

You what?

Try reading some history.

Of course history has always been the true enemy of religion and of ideology. Thats why the post war state was set up with freedom of information and with a public service built on a shared history. And why so much effort has been spent on overturning all of it.

It almost makes me wonder if there’s an invested interest in making me want to think that Britain is now an entirely authoritarian propaganda-based state. Of course, it is… but the inanity of your statement really is beyond a joke.

Edited

Very good.

OrdinaryMagicOfAcorns · 26/03/2026 11:51

And it’s all lies.

Friendlygingercat · 26/03/2026 11:51

I describe myself as religious but not Christian. I do believe in a supreme being but dont subscribe to any particular denomination. I am also fascinated by the faiths of other people. Ive visited many Islamic countries travelling solo. Some of these countries (for example Iran and Syria) it was best to avoid political discussion and keep to safe topics. I found local people happy to discuss their religious beliefs and to speak about Islam. We did not try to convert one another, simply to discuss our differing religious convictions with respect. I dont reject Islam any more than I would any other faith. As a retired academic I have a purely intellectual intrest in what sustains people.

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:53

1dayatatime · 25/03/2026 08:08

The following countries still have the death penalty for apostasy (leaving Islam) : Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

In other countries such as Pakistan or North Africa there are extrajudicial killings for apostasy.

So on this basis if you are a Muslim then it's probably not a good idea to leave the faith.

@Judgejudysno1fanok do these countries represent Islam well?

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:53

Seedlingsparrow · 25/03/2026 10:02

@Judgejudysno1fan
Please can you respond to my question about so many Muslims following cultural Islamic practices such as dress code. Few Muslims seem as bothered about Qur'anic teaching and the environment. The UN says the Earth is at crisis point and I would expect Muslim followers to be out and about doing their best for the future of Planet Earth. You seem much more interested in cultural Islam than in the theological requirement in Islam to be Khalifahs taling care of the Earth.

I cannot speak for all followers of islam as to why theyre not doing more. Just as why I cant speak for the rest of great Britain as to why theyre not doing more for the environment

Judgejudysno1fan · 26/03/2026 11:55

EasternStandard · 26/03/2026 11:53

@Judgejudysno1fanok do these countries represent Islam well?

Its not the country but the individual who represents the good teachings of islam.

Ive already expressed my views on Afghanistan several times. Not all may be bad apples but its sad the state it is in.