"War, huh, good God, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!" - Trump Thread #157

[Spandauer]

It ain't nothing but a heart-breaker
(War) Friend only to The Undertaker
(Edwin Starr 1970, written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong)

Unless, of course, your name ends in Trump, when it ain't nothing but an opportunity to grift, deflect and destroy.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5496818-beware-the-ides-of-march-trump-thread-156

If Isabel Oakeshoot and Richard Tice want to devalue their own credibility, then I for one will not stop them.

This is what I was talking about upthread.

He's at the point where his lies have not even a grain of truth in them and are so easily disproven. He's absolutely 'jumped the shark'.

It will be interesting (well not 'interesting' but I can't think of the right word) to see how far off the rails he's going to go with bigger and bigger lies. I mean, does he believe his lies, does he think (as with his failing businesses) that if he keeps lying things will magically improve because that never worked, did it? Maybe he thinks he can 'file bankruptcy' on this war and the debacle will just go away. Does he think his word is the world's command so UK, Spain, etc will simply fall in line? Or is he just simply now insane and should be 25th'd.

Maybe the word I was searching for is 'frightening', because it doesn't seem as if anyone in DC has the balls (or ovaries) to actually do anything to stop him. The GOP majority in Congress could put strong curbs on him if not stop him altogether. The Cabinet could 25th him, but they're all arselickers. No, they all just sit there bleating like sheep in his defense. The Dems simply don't have the numbers.

Trump also says he's won the war, but is then sending ground troops. Why if the war is over does he need to do this?

Why are missiles and drones still flying from Iran if they are all destroyed? Why does America and Israel need to keep bombing if there are no targets left?

Who are the Americans talking to Iran so that they can take the surrender?

They were counting on Iran to collapse and have no fucking clue about geopolitics and the shit show they've unleashed.

Nah. If you just get enough 'points' your weapons will automatically increase in numbers. You know. Like in Call of Duty.

In the days of old when bad news was likely to be dealt with by stabby stabby, it's likely that by now there would have been a regime change.

However, I suspect an awful of of potential successors are keen for Trump to be in a position take a lot more blame in order to make them seem a reasonably replacement. In political circles it's called the "Theresa May" strategy.

I agree, he would have met his Brutus in the hallway by now.

I hadn't thought of the 'set myself up as successor' theory. Scary thing is that anyone who would put personal ambition above the deaths of US military personnel (and innocent civilians) would probably be just as bad as Scrotus.

Yes, JD is certainly sending his minions and leakers to try to seed the 'more rational alternative' narrative.

Well as long as he is veep, the US system makes him next in line. We've all seen "House of Cards".

Yes, next in line, but he still needs to garner support if he's hoping for a 25th amendment situation.

Trump begging other countries to send ships to open a strait his illegal war has closed, while he (checks notes) fucks about on his golf course.

He’s an incredibly large piece of shit. I don’t think there has ever been a person less suited to the presidency. Vance is thick-as-pigshit waste of flesh and Hegseth is a frothing, raving nutjob with a tenuous grip on reality.

History is not going to be kind to any of them.

I wish that history could start now.

Someone in America needs to grow some balls, it's beyond the pale now.

@TiredCatLady and @Llttledrummergirls Yep. Agreed.

You've been a chatty lot today!

Senator Chris Murphy (Dem CT) assessment:
It’s crystal clear now that Trump has lost control of this war. He badly misjudged Iran’s ability to retaliate. The region is on fire.

1/ I’m going to explain to you in this🧵what I’ve learned - in part from closed door briefings - about the four biggest current crises.
bsky.app/profile/chrismurphyct.bsky.social/post/3mh22exlc3c2o

Some interesting statistics:

There have been 50 VPs (including Vance).

Of the 15 VPs who later became POTUS, 7 gained or later gained office by election: John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Van Buren, Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush, and Joe Biden. 7 became POTUS due to death and 1 due to resignation (Ford). Truman was elected after 1st taking office due to the death of FDR so he both succeeded and was later elected so he's counted in both categories.

Since 1888 only ONE sitting VP has been elected POTUS (Geo HW Bush). That's 1 in 136 years.

So using 49 VPs (since Vance hasn't been subjected to an election) that's roughly 14% of VP become POTUS.

So hopefully, short of succession Vance doesn't have much of a chance.

But in the meantime, they are getting away with murder and no-one can stop them.

I love Chris Murphy. He explains things in such plain English that anyone with half a brain can understand him as clear as crystal. Whether MAGAts can or will is another question since it would entail actually opening their eyes and actually using their half-brains.

correction:

So using 49 VPs (since Vance hasn't been subjected to an election) that's roughly 14% of VP become are elected POTUS.

😂 the pictures of Rubio wearing shoes too big for him because he doesn’t want to offend the 🍊🤡 are hilarious

While Jared Kushner is negotiating on behalf of the United States with governments in the Middle East, he is also soliciting investments in his private business ventures from the same governments
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/13/business/jared-kushner-affinity-mideast-funds.html

So we all have to get involved and put ourselves at risk because of something YOU started?

FOTTFSOFATFOSM

Haha, love it! Clown shoes! 🤡

That post is completely in character with everything he's ever done.

He crashes in, breaks the chinaware, takes a dump on the table, and yells, "Look at ME! I'm the GREATEST! Uh, maybe someone else wants to clean up this mess."

He's had other people cleaning up his mess his whole life, business or personal.

[ETA meant to quote @Spandauer quoting Trump's post.]

I love my EV as well - not a tesla, and have driven by the gas stations watching the gas price increase by the day. We unfortunately have a huge tesla loving population here (west coast Canada) and more and more of those abominations are appearing. And new versions of the sedan, so they are actively choosing to buy. One truck parked beside me in a lot the other day and extended halfway out into the lane. Grrr.

Vance can also eventually say the the Cult of Personality that surrounded Trump was a Bad Thing which is why it IS A GOOD THING that Vance has no personality at all

This is what I just can't get my head around. Trump is quite clearly mad as a box of frogs and I also think he's evil through and through. But are the rest of his team really as bonkers and as evil as he is? All of them? None of them seem to want to even try to stop him. I just don't get it.