"War, huh, good God, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!" - Trump Thread #157

[Spandauer]

It ain't nothing but a heart-breaker
(War) Friend only to The Undertaker
(Edwin Starr 1970, written by Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong)

Unless, of course, your name ends in Trump, when it ain't nothing but an opportunity to grift, deflect and destroy.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5496818-beware-the-ides-of-march-trump-thread-156

It seems he is talking out of his big american dream arse

He can swivel. 🖕

The whole world is suffering because a few media moguls either haven't the balls to report honestly, or are so up to their necks in the Epstein files they have no agency.

But not from the bastion of free press that is Dubai.

Trump to the UK, 6 March: "We don't need them any longer... We don't need people to join wars after we've already won!"

Trump six days later: Publicly begs for the UK to send warships.

And that’s exactly how you’re going to get bigly burned, you Orange Buffoon. The cheap drones.

Same principle when the US helped South Vietnam…the North Vietnamese were a bunch of rural fishermen who were no match for the US Army. Apparently.

Those who fail to learn from history…

According to The Lincoln Project, the US manufactures approx 200 Patriot Missiles each year, and have used about 100 in the past two weeks. Who knows how many stocks there are vs how many have been sold to other countries, but the current Burn Rate will quickly eliminate what reserves they do have.

They really did bomb North Vietnam back to the stone age.

And lost.

Yes. Now people are finding out why there are not many Gulf based youtubers who are critical of said States.

I would say that the press in the UAE is currently about as free as the press in the US under Trump today.

He can hope that South Korea sends ships but the US has just taken most of their high altitude missile systems out of SK, leaving the Koreans twitchy about gaps in their defences against North Korea. Do you think the penny’s dropped yet for Trump that pissing off and denigrating your key allies has consequences?

I'll see if I can find them somewhere

https://www.404media.co/the-removed-doge-deposition-videos-have-already-been-backed-up-across-the-internet/

Over the course of a six hour long or so deposition, Justin Fox, a former investment banker turned DOGE bro, refused to define what he believes counts as DEI; admitted he used ChatGPT to scan government contracts for terms such as “Black” and “homosexual” but not “white” or “caucasian;” and said that one of the grants he helped slash was “not for the benefit of humankind” before walking that claim back.

Fairly amusing considering Hegseth spent his first nine months turfing, or attempting to turf, everyone who wasn't a classically macho 'warfighter' out of the military.

And making EVs seem sensible isn't really on brand for MAGA.

Who do you think is going to buy those dozen cybertrucks they managed to bang together?

Sadly, I watched about an hour of this the other day. He was quite a piece of work. As a society, we've given far too much power to people with personality disorders.

I don't know. But remember EV owners are second only to vegans about their virtues.

I'm trying to imagine the incisive discussion that will take place when a MAGAnaut whines about the cost of gas, and an EV owner casually comments how it doesn't really worry them as they don't need gas.

Speaking of useless vehicles ... seems ICE agents have gone all shy

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-cars-kristi-noem-spending-b2935104.html

Who is (or possibly are) "them"? The destroyed military? Little old ladies with green umbrellas? The Evil Camel Conspiracy?

I actually do love my EV (embarrassingly it's a Tesla, but bought while the real Elon was still in the closet), but don't talk to MAGAs, so hopefully am safe from that.

I can see it now. Trump branded mead in goldy coloured bottles.

When in University there was a US Vietnam war veteran who was poisoned by Agent Orange on some of my tutorials. He was never properly compensated.

US officers (the ones that didn't get fragged) used to drink a (presumably US) pint of Agent Orange to show how safe it was.

Worth a watch as basic facts shred Bill Mahers smug look. Also intertesting suggestion from "The Mooch" that Iran can tell Chinese ships where the mines are ....

"Iranian ships are getting through ?!!!"

Indeed. My nephew was out there, he's escaped, he was on a temporary work placement covering someone's illness. He was sheltering in an underground carpark, yet the vile Isabel Oakeshott says everything is fine out there and she's never felt safer. Stupid woman.