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What do you consider posh?

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Fearlesssloth · 05/03/2026 20:14

Is posh subjective/relative do you think or is there a universally agreed upon definition? I mean I guess everyone would say the royal family is posh right?! A work acquaintance called me posh today when I told her the street I live on and it made me think god if she thinks I’m posh where does she live?! Quite amusing as I’ve never been called posh before and the street I live on is mainly small 3-bed semis, mix of council and privately owned but not what I’d call posh, just not a council estate

OP posts:
Miranda65 · 10/03/2026 23:07

Norwegianwooded · 08/03/2026 07:20

It’s just basic hygiene surely?

An obsession with "hygiene" is very lower middle class too, so.......

SchnizelVonKrumm · 11/03/2026 07:56

Miranda65 · 10/03/2026 23:07

An obsession with "hygiene" is very lower middle class too, so.......

Yes - Hyacinth Bucket would have been in the "tipping bleach down the loo afyrr every use, washing towels after every use and changing the bedsheets every week" camp on MN!

EvieBB · 11/03/2026 08:14

Greysnuggle · 10/03/2026 22:55

Which Ireland, southern or northern? They’re both countries. One happens to be inside a larger country, one is not.

@Fearlesssloth
Actually there is NO country called southern Ireland and the number of times this has to be explained on MN is, quite frankly, staggering.

The island of Ireland contains Ireland (the state/country) and Northern Ireland. The former is sometimes referred to as the Republic of Ireland but the official name is simply Ireland. Please, please, please no southern in front!!! It’s just wrong!

Whether Northern Ireland is a country or not is debated. Its history is quite unlike that of England, Scotland and Wales and it has never been a sovereign country in the past. So though some say country now, others do not. Province is also used for example. Legally it doesn’t have an official designation afaik?

Edited

This thread has become about the countries of the UK rather than "what do you consider posh" 😜🤪
Perhaps you guys need to start a new thread about this issue? Lol x

PheasantandAstronomers · 11/03/2026 08:30

SchnizelVonKrumm · 11/03/2026 07:56

Yes - Hyacinth Bucket would have been in the "tipping bleach down the loo afyrr every use, washing towels after every use and changing the bedsheets every week" camp on MN!

And in the camp that like to set up ‘for show’ ‘washing up stations’! (I wish I could find the thread from a few years back in which amiably mad posters traded ideas about what looked nice in your ‘washing up station’, eg expensive washing up liquid and wooden-handled dish brushes, which were not for use.)

Also the people who like to ‘stage’ spare rooms for overnight visitors and start threads asking for ideas for what they can do on top of fresh flowers, towels twisted into swans, a pillow menu tissues, a carafe of fresh water, a tea and coffee station, and a guest basket with wipes, a sewing kit, earplugs, tampons etc.

Greysnuggle · 11/03/2026 08:32

@EvieBB OK then. It’s not posh, in fact it’s very bad manners, to keep getting a neighbouring country’s name wrong. Will that do?😁

Thecows · 11/03/2026 09:07

mjf981 · 07/03/2026 23:16

I don't think posh means super rich, but you definitely need some money to be proper posh.

Posh is more - owning a the 5 bed detached in the 'good' part of town, 2 cars which are a Mercedes/BMW, private school, prawn cocktails at Christmas using the 'good' china, looking down on people who live in council estates - that sort of thing.

Edited

That's not posh just fairly well off

Vintageblueribbon · 11/03/2026 09:26

Doggymummar · 05/03/2026 21:17

I was bullied because we were posh. Two working parents and didn't live in a council property.

I was bullied because my parents owned their own house-my mother stayed at home,my father worked full time and neither lived in the pub like their parents

A 3 bed (they turned it into a 4 bed) council house that they where able to buy thanks to Thatcher

Plus we went on holiday every year-only down the road but it was a holiday

Believe me,we where not bloody posh but i was bullied thanks to my parents choices

Differentforgirls · 11/03/2026 17:57

EvieBB · 10/03/2026 22:19

your poor grasp....

Typo.

EvieBB · 11/03/2026 19:25

Greysnuggle · 11/03/2026 08:32

@EvieBB OK then. It’s not posh, in fact it’s very bad manners, to keep getting a neighbouring country’s name wrong. Will that do?😁

Edited

😂

Differentforgirls · 14/03/2026 14:29

Fearlesssloth · 10/03/2026 17:59

Which Ireland, southern or northern? They’re both countries. One happens to be inside a larger country, one is not. I actually can’t believe you’re still arguing this when I’ve explained multiple times that Scotland, Wales, England & N. Ireland are countries within another COUNTRY, the UK, AND I’ve posted the actual words “The United Kingdom is a COUNTRY” copied & pasted from the official Commonwealth website. Do you have a Scottish passport that says you’re a Scottish citizen on it? No, you have a British passport that says you’re a British citizen on it. You cannot be a citizen of somewhere that is not a country. I am Scottish AND British. So are you, like it or not. I get that the UK/devolved nations thing can be confusing for foreigners but for a native UK citizen..really?! I actually think you must be winding me up now, so I’m gonna stop replying. If you got in trouble abroad which country’s embassy would you go to for help? Cos you wouldn’t be getting home to Scotland any time in the next century if you spent your days wandering around looking for the Scottish embassy 🤣

Just realised reading a thread about teaching.

There’s a problem on here when people post about Education, NHS, Law etc.

You have people from England (the country) posting complete nonsense to OPs who either live in Scotland (the country), Wales (the country) or NI (part of the country of Ireland geographically.)

The reason for this is because the UK is not a COUNTRY.

It’s a union of three countries, and a tiny bit of another country where each part of the union has their own unique laws and practices.

A union with one massive country and three smaller ones, one that the three smaller ones all have people who want to stay in the union and people who want to leave.

Catullus5 · 14/03/2026 17:31

Differentforgirls · 14/03/2026 14:29

Just realised reading a thread about teaching.

There’s a problem on here when people post about Education, NHS, Law etc.

You have people from England (the country) posting complete nonsense to OPs who either live in Scotland (the country), Wales (the country) or NI (part of the country of Ireland geographically.)

The reason for this is because the UK is not a COUNTRY.

It’s a union of three countries, and a tiny bit of another country where each part of the union has their own unique laws and practices.

A union with one massive country and three smaller ones, one that the three smaller ones all have people who want to stay in the union and people who want to leave.

I think you're splitting hairs about this (as much a UK phenomenon as class) but no, as I explained above, the UK was created by two unions and some prefer events. It's not 4 countries in a union. There is not one union. The 1707 Union isn't what created the UK now. VI expect Wikipedia or even Google AI would probably be accurate on the specifics. I'm not posting from England btw.

Differentforgirls · 14/03/2026 19:55

Catullus5 · 14/03/2026 17:31

I think you're splitting hairs about this (as much a UK phenomenon as class) but no, as I explained above, the UK was created by two unions and some prefer events. It's not 4 countries in a union. There is not one union. The 1707 Union isn't what created the UK now. VI expect Wikipedia or even Google AI would probably be accurate on the specifics. I'm not posting from England btw.

So it’s like the USA? The fact is that Scotland has its own law system, education system and health system. The treaty didn’t change that. These three things were always unique to Scotland. Calling them “devolved” is a misnomer as they were separate systems before devolution.

Catullus5 · 15/03/2026 03:53

Differentforgirls · 14/03/2026 19:55

So it’s like the USA? The fact is that Scotland has its own law system, education system and health system. The treaty didn’t change that. These three things were always unique to Scotland. Calling them “devolved” is a misnomer as they were separate systems before devolution.

You left out the most significant part of the 1707 Union which is that Scotland retained its own national church. The Church of Scotland and Presbyterianism has been very important in Scotland's national identity, for a long time absolutely central. Most of the great and good in Scotland today ignore that as it doesn't suit their values. That makes them dishonest, but hey.

Also, sorry about the spelling mistakes in my previous post. It was early morning and I wasn't wearing my reading glasses

I also apologise in advance for a long post, because I can waffle about this topic for ages, but I have genuinely tried to keep this short (my occupation gives me some familiarity with it, also I did learn Scottish history - from an institution, not out of a book).

First, think of a state, say, France. There is an entity we would call the French state, which includes its government. Then there is the territory it controls, which is what we think of as France. Then there is its lawmaking body, whose laws the French state enforces through its territory.

Now, to the UK. In 1707, the Scottish Parliament passed one law dissolving itself, and dissolving the Scottish Crown (ie, the Scottish monarchy / state / government). The English Parliament did the same regarding the English Parliament and Crown. Together they formed a new parliament and Crown of Great Britain (if you want justification for this it says so in the text of the treaty itself and each Act of Parliament). Its territory was the territory of the two previous crowns, ie island and offshore islands of Great Britain and some colonies that had previously been ruled by the crown of England. The point is this - all sovereignty passed from the two abolished Parliaments and Crowns to the new one.

In 1801, the parliament of Great Britain and the parliament of Ireland did the same.

In 1922 the UK lost a portion of its territory to the Irish independence movement who formed their own state, resulting in the current UK borders. That was not a cessation of any union. It was just that the UK lost most of its territory in the island of Ireland to a new state (at the time known as the Irish Free State) which administered laws made by its own parliament. The distinction matters. It meant that the new Irish state wasn't a party to any international treaties, and didn't take on any of the UK's national debt. That's the starting point of any new state, and would be the situation if Scotland became independent and such things hadn't been dealt with in advance.

Back to 1707. Scots law wasn't abolished, and Scotland retained its own national church (states didn't do health and education back then). But that's by the by - the point is that the Parliament of Great Britain had the right to make laws in respect of each and has been doing so ever since, and the king of Great Britain had the right to administer those laws. What "devolution" means is the legal delegation of the right to make laws by the UK Parliament to the Scottish Parliament, and the right to administer those laws in Scotland from the UK Government to the Scottish Government. When the devolved Parliament in Scotland was created, some politician (I think it was Rosanna Cunningham) misled a lot of people by saying that the old Scottish Parliament had "resumed". But in law that's just not what happened, for the reasons I gave above. Legally speaking, the UK Parliament could pass a law abolishing the Scottish Government and Parliament though for obvious reasons it would a crazy thing to try. I am liable to be corrected by any lurking Irish people, but when in 1919 the Irish Dáil was created, it wasn't a resumption of the pre-1801 Irish Parliament and no one said it was. It was an entirely new thing.

You mentioned the United States. That was a bit different - the original 13 Colonies were separate and essentially clubbed together and devolved (if you like) some functions upwards into a federal government but retained a lot of their own administration. Something similar happened in Australia, Canada and South Africa (which is why those places also have state / provincial governments) but without any rebellions. Not the same as the UK though.

I'll make one more point. The UK is FAR from being the only place that includes former independent states in its territory. There is some real Scottish exceptionalism at play here. Italy contains what used to be Piedmont, Venice and Naples. Germany contains Westphalia, some of Prussia, Bavaria and other places. Spain is basically made up of what was Aragon, Castile and Granada. I could go on. Now, you might say that's not the same as they're all Italian, German or Spanish, but in 1926, when the UK was still (just about) the world's pre-eminent power, Scots said they were British. Now the UK is reduced and that identity has changed, but the identity of Scots in 1926 is every bit as valid as the identity of Scots now. It's perfectly reasonable to call the UK a country, and that's how just about everyone outside it (except maybe some expatriate Scots) would regard it.

Sorry, I realise I've gone on for ages but I hope I've made sense.

Differentforgirls · 15/03/2026 06:36

Catullus5 · 15/03/2026 03:53

You left out the most significant part of the 1707 Union which is that Scotland retained its own national church. The Church of Scotland and Presbyterianism has been very important in Scotland's national identity, for a long time absolutely central. Most of the great and good in Scotland today ignore that as it doesn't suit their values. That makes them dishonest, but hey.

Also, sorry about the spelling mistakes in my previous post. It was early morning and I wasn't wearing my reading glasses

I also apologise in advance for a long post, because I can waffle about this topic for ages, but I have genuinely tried to keep this short (my occupation gives me some familiarity with it, also I did learn Scottish history - from an institution, not out of a book).

First, think of a state, say, France. There is an entity we would call the French state, which includes its government. Then there is the territory it controls, which is what we think of as France. Then there is its lawmaking body, whose laws the French state enforces through its territory.

Now, to the UK. In 1707, the Scottish Parliament passed one law dissolving itself, and dissolving the Scottish Crown (ie, the Scottish monarchy / state / government). The English Parliament did the same regarding the English Parliament and Crown. Together they formed a new parliament and Crown of Great Britain (if you want justification for this it says so in the text of the treaty itself and each Act of Parliament). Its territory was the territory of the two previous crowns, ie island and offshore islands of Great Britain and some colonies that had previously been ruled by the crown of England. The point is this - all sovereignty passed from the two abolished Parliaments and Crowns to the new one.

In 1801, the parliament of Great Britain and the parliament of Ireland did the same.

In 1922 the UK lost a portion of its territory to the Irish independence movement who formed their own state, resulting in the current UK borders. That was not a cessation of any union. It was just that the UK lost most of its territory in the island of Ireland to a new state (at the time known as the Irish Free State) which administered laws made by its own parliament. The distinction matters. It meant that the new Irish state wasn't a party to any international treaties, and didn't take on any of the UK's national debt. That's the starting point of any new state, and would be the situation if Scotland became independent and such things hadn't been dealt with in advance.

Back to 1707. Scots law wasn't abolished, and Scotland retained its own national church (states didn't do health and education back then). But that's by the by - the point is that the Parliament of Great Britain had the right to make laws in respect of each and has been doing so ever since, and the king of Great Britain had the right to administer those laws. What "devolution" means is the legal delegation of the right to make laws by the UK Parliament to the Scottish Parliament, and the right to administer those laws in Scotland from the UK Government to the Scottish Government. When the devolved Parliament in Scotland was created, some politician (I think it was Rosanna Cunningham) misled a lot of people by saying that the old Scottish Parliament had "resumed". But in law that's just not what happened, for the reasons I gave above. Legally speaking, the UK Parliament could pass a law abolishing the Scottish Government and Parliament though for obvious reasons it would a crazy thing to try. I am liable to be corrected by any lurking Irish people, but when in 1919 the Irish Dáil was created, it wasn't a resumption of the pre-1801 Irish Parliament and no one said it was. It was an entirely new thing.

You mentioned the United States. That was a bit different - the original 13 Colonies were separate and essentially clubbed together and devolved (if you like) some functions upwards into a federal government but retained a lot of their own administration. Something similar happened in Australia, Canada and South Africa (which is why those places also have state / provincial governments) but without any rebellions. Not the same as the UK though.

I'll make one more point. The UK is FAR from being the only place that includes former independent states in its territory. There is some real Scottish exceptionalism at play here. Italy contains what used to be Piedmont, Venice and Naples. Germany contains Westphalia, some of Prussia, Bavaria and other places. Spain is basically made up of what was Aragon, Castile and Granada. I could go on. Now, you might say that's not the same as they're all Italian, German or Spanish, but in 1926, when the UK was still (just about) the world's pre-eminent power, Scots said they were British. Now the UK is reduced and that identity has changed, but the identity of Scots in 1926 is every bit as valid as the identity of Scots now. It's perfectly reasonable to call the UK a country, and that's how just about everyone outside it (except maybe some expatriate Scots) would regard it.

Sorry, I realise I've gone on for ages but I hope I've made sense.

You have. Thank you. It was Winnie Ewing btw, not Rosanna. 😊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Catullus5 · 15/03/2026 07:02

Quite so - thanks for reminding me @Differentforgirls ❤️🇳🇿

JacknDiane · 15/03/2026 07:51

Why do some aristocratics see the royal family as Johnny come latelies?

Greysnuggle · 15/03/2026 08:06

Differentforgirls · 14/03/2026 14:29

Just realised reading a thread about teaching.

There’s a problem on here when people post about Education, NHS, Law etc.

You have people from England (the country) posting complete nonsense to OPs who either live in Scotland (the country), Wales (the country) or NI (part of the country of Ireland geographically.)

The reason for this is because the UK is not a COUNTRY.

It’s a union of three countries, and a tiny bit of another country where each part of the union has their own unique laws and practices.

A union with one massive country and three smaller ones, one that the three smaller ones all have people who want to stay in the union and people who want to leave.

…NI (part of the country of Ireland geographically)

Just need to point out again that Northern Ireland is part of the island of Ireland, but not part of the country of Ireland, as there does seem to be some confusion on this thread.

The island of Ireland contains Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK, and the country of Ireland. The latter is sometimes known as the Republic of Ireland but its official name is Ireland.

Differentforgirls · 15/03/2026 08:30

Greysnuggle · 15/03/2026 08:06

…NI (part of the country of Ireland geographically)

Just need to point out again that Northern Ireland is part of the island of Ireland, but not part of the country of Ireland, as there does seem to be some confusion on this thread.

The island of Ireland contains Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK, and the country of Ireland. The latter is sometimes known as the Republic of Ireland but its official name is Ireland.

Sorry!

stopthemud · 15/03/2026 09:25

I think wealth is very different to posh. Posh people try, they work on their accents, image, connections. Wealth whispers, many wealthy people I have known I have not realized the full extent of their wealth until circumstance revealed it. I believe this is due to a dear of being an target due to their weath. I have been called posh many times, I actually find it a little insulting, to me it sort of means a bit airs and graces, dont you know who I am. While the wealthy will not cause a fuss or draw attention unnecessarily. This is all a big generalisation though.

stopthemud · 15/03/2026 09:29

mjf981 · 07/03/2026 23:16

I don't think posh means super rich, but you definitely need some money to be proper posh.

Posh is more - owning a the 5 bed detached in the 'good' part of town, 2 cars which are a Mercedes/BMW, private school, prawn cocktails at Christmas using the 'good' china, looking down on people who live in council estates - that sort of thing.

Edited

I think prawn cocktails are definately in the NQOCD category when it comes to the posh

LulusMiniEgg · 15/03/2026 09:35

We have just spent a wonderful holiday with some friends who I would consider posh (parents both privately educated & have professions rather than jobs, kids at private school, live abroad in a country where it’s the norm to have staff etc), when I said in passing ‘ooh that’s posh’ to describe something their DD7 said, ‘Daddy, what does posh mean?’! So now I consider a person to be posh when they don’t know what posh means as it’s not even a concept to them! 😂

CarrierbagsAndPJs · 15/03/2026 09:41

I live within the area of an expensive, old boarding school. I see those sixth-form boarder students regularly out and about. I can tell them a mile off from their walk, how they carry themselves, their general dress, and then their speech. They are posh.

I also see the local day pupils from the same school fairly often but they often don’t have the same presence or manner about them.

RipplePlease · 16/03/2026 09:24

@stopthemud
What the bejeebers is NQOCD?

PistachioTiramisu · 16/03/2026 11:44

RipplePlease · 16/03/2026 09:24

@stopthemud
What the bejeebers is NQOCD?

Not quite our class darling!

LaMarschallin · 16/03/2026 12:01

The opposite of PLU.

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