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Why aren't people vaccinating against measles?

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TableTurners · 15/02/2026 14:23

Just read about the measles outbreak in Enfield and Haringey at the moment - just wondering why a lot of people aren't vaccinating again measles these days?

Apparently the UK has lost it's measles free status or something, just seems weird to me that we're letting something old fashioned like this go rife again.

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OhDear111 · 16/02/2026 16:42

The point about peanuts on a plane is different though. The person with a peanut allergy doesn’t have to get on the plane. With measles, ordinary healthy dc are doing what is legally required - going to school. There they can catch measles and it’s possible to get it even after being vaccinated.

We need to get tough on this. Vaccinated or no child benefit. Vaccinated or no school.

xanthomelana · 16/02/2026 17:58

JenniferBooth · 16/02/2026 15:38

It erodes trust. The news about Depo Provera wont have helped either Yes i know its not a vaccine. But its been around for decades and now linked to brain tumors I took this for five years. Ditto the mini pill also carries this risk which i have taken for four and a half years.

Zantac Ranitidine which i took for many years was taken off the market after nearly forty years, because of cancer causing carcinogens

I was shocked when they actually reported this on the evening news. I didn’t realise how many lawsuits Pfizer had against them in America for the depo jab. So terrible for the women affected by it but not surprising when it comes to women’s health.

jetlag92 · 16/02/2026 18:26

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 15:11

All my children are vaccinated but I do feel that I just went along with the vaccination programme as I didn’t really know that there was the opportunity not to, I wasn’t educated about the diseases or the vaccines. I’m pro choice on everything so long as it’s an educated decision being made. My middle daughter is ANA to peanuts and whilst it’s not a direct link, having researched it there’s far more children in the vaccinated western world with food allergies since the national immunisation programme was rolled out than in other third world counties. That said, I’ve continued in her later life to make sure she is vaccinated for HPv and others etc as I’ve been sensible enough to do my own research into the fors and against of both vaccinating and not. I think the anti vaxxers may have a point with some of their ideologies but not all. The COVID saga really proved their point in a lot of ways and did nothing for the opinion of the general population.

Did you give her peanuts as a child? (Not judgemental - just asking as with one of my children - it was suggested that we didn't. And it's now known that that was a bad idea).
My children were born in 2006, 2008 and 2011.
My eldest contracted a milder form of measles when he was about 3. He'd had his first jab, but clearly he wasn't covered. He was okay, but it delayed emmetropization in one of his eyes - so he has weaker eye. He was also very poorly. Thankfully, his chosen job allows that - it would limit some careers.

NomTook · 16/02/2026 18:33

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 15:11

All my children are vaccinated but I do feel that I just went along with the vaccination programme as I didn’t really know that there was the opportunity not to, I wasn’t educated about the diseases or the vaccines. I’m pro choice on everything so long as it’s an educated decision being made. My middle daughter is ANA to peanuts and whilst it’s not a direct link, having researched it there’s far more children in the vaccinated western world with food allergies since the national immunisation programme was rolled out than in other third world counties. That said, I’ve continued in her later life to make sure she is vaccinated for HPv and others etc as I’ve been sensible enough to do my own research into the fors and against of both vaccinating and not. I think the anti vaxxers may have a point with some of their ideologies but not all. The COVID saga really proved their point in a lot of ways and did nothing for the opinion of the general population.

Why have you focussed on vaccination programmes as being the key factor here?

We also use a lot more cleaning products than developing countries, we eat more UPFs, we have more sedentary lifestyles, we have our children later in life…the list goes on.

Superhansrantowindsor · 16/02/2026 18:36

It’s just so sad. Our Great great grandmothers and their friends would be aghast that a vaccine for measles is available and people don’t take it. Walk around any old graveyard and you’ll see what an unvaccinated society looked like.

Sometimeswinning · 16/02/2026 18:52

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 16:10

They can eat nuts around my daughter all they like I never said that they couldnt. Person below asked would Ibe ok on a plane with it answer is no. If you’re asked politely by a parent or an airline to refrain from eating nuts because you’ll cause the death of a child that you’re sitting in close proximity to and you choose to eat those nuts rather than taking note of the polite warning it’s tantamount to murder. But I guess you have experience and are well educated on this.

It’s almost like you are missing the point on purpose!

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 19:24

jetlag92 · 16/02/2026 18:26

Did you give her peanuts as a child? (Not judgemental - just asking as with one of my children - it was suggested that we didn't. And it's now known that that was a bad idea).
My children were born in 2006, 2008 and 2011.
My eldest contracted a milder form of measles when he was about 3. He'd had his first jab, but clearly he wasn't covered. He was okay, but it delayed emmetropization in one of his eyes - so he has weaker eye. He was also very poorly. Thankfully, his chosen job allows that - it would limit some careers.

Yes she had peanut butter and the usual snacks containing nuts from time to time. She’s the middle child all 3 exclusively breastfed I ate nuts when pregnant too. The first episode happened during a Chinese meal she came out in hives all over. It’s when you’re going through the guilt of why my child what could it have been? Was it me? Etc that we researched I’m not saying that immunisation programmes are a cause merely that statistically more children are diagnosed with food allergies after the immunisation programme but yes it could have been a number of things that triggered the reaction and subsequent pattern of allergic reactions. With peanuts your body reacts worse each time they are ingested.

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 19:24

Sometimeswinning · 16/02/2026 18:52

It’s almost like you are missing the point on purpose!

Yes just for you.

Sometimeswinning · 16/02/2026 19:32

BeMellowAquaSquid · 16/02/2026 19:24

Yes just for you.

You looked stupid just for me!? I don’t think that’s true now is it?

OhDear111 · 16/02/2026 20:37

Peanuts have nothing whatsoever to do with measles jabs. Back in London where dc are in hospital with a disease caught from unvaccinated people, we whistle while Rome burns. I don’t really want to hear any more about unrelated drugs in the states either. We need the government (Wes) to get on with ensuring dc are vaccinated. Choice needs to be suspended when it potentially kills dc.

I agree that anyone alive even 100 years ago would be mortified by our cavalier approach to life saving vaccinations now.

BlackeyedSusan · 17/02/2026 12:34

MightyDandelionEsq · 15/02/2026 15:13

As someone with vaccinated children, I think it’s sinister how many people on here want to take parental responsibility away and force vaccinations. I believe that to be an incredibly slippery slope. I asked some questions around my child’s schedule innocently (I like to know what’s going on) and was greeted by a very hostile and rude nurse who implied I was an anti vaxxer. That sort of behaviour turns people off (not me, but I can see how it would). One of the changes I was asking about, was my child’s second dose of MMR has been brought forward by a year to counter the rise in measles.

You can bleat on about forcing herd immunity but there are better ways in a democratic society, it starts by education and not shaming parents for having questions.

Covid did a lot of damage with its bullying and hysterical nature around vaccines. It will take some time to reverse it.

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People will turn to other sources if the professionals don't explain kindly. The other sources are more likely to be less accurate.

BlackeyedSusan · 17/02/2026 14:41

user8539762897 · 16/02/2026 09:27

One of my baby class friends 25yrs ago, her baby couldn't be vaccinated because the vaccine was built from something the baby had an anaphylactic reaction to. I want to say egg white, but not entirely sure, it was a long time ago! They did have the vaccine when they were older I think as it was differently made, or maybe they’d become less allergic. But they would have been one of the little kids that needed herd immunity, like numerous other children poorly with cancer and other serious illnesses.

I’d make a school place dependant on being vaccinated. People as a crowd really are pretty thick!

Mine was allergic to egg but not anaphylactic. Took a while to get her second appointment as I had to take her to the GP first and they had to research to see if it was safe for her. I think she was able to have it because she was not anaphylactic and it was low risk anyway. It's all a bit dim and distant past now.

NHSVaccineNurses · 19/03/2026 10:11

In partnership with NHS

From experience giving childhood immunisations, most parents who delay or decline the MMR vaccine aren’t “anti-vaccine” at all. They’re usually thoughtful, cautious parents trying to do the right thing. The most common concerns tend to fall into a few themes:

Worries about safety and side effects
This is by far the most common reason. Parents often worry about:

  • Autism (because of outdated, incorrect information)
  • Long-term or unknown side effects
  • Giving “too many vaccines at once”
Our advice: We explain that the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine has been used for over 30 years and studied in millions of children worldwide. Large, high-quality studies have found no link with autism or developmental problems. Most side effects are mild and short-lived and can be managed at home with over-the-counter medicines like Calpol. Serious reactions can occur, but these are extremely rare. I also explain that children’s immune systems cope with far more challenges every day than what’s in a vaccine.

Feeling the diseases aren’t a real risk anymore
Some parents haven’t seen measles, mumps or rubella and assume they’re mild or “gone”.
Our advice:
We explain that diseases like measles are now rare because vaccination works so well. When vaccination rates are high, the virus struggles to spread. However, when uptake drops, even by a relatively small amount, outbreaks return very quickly, which is exactly what we’re seeing again right now in parts of the UK and Europe. Measles is not a mild illness. It is one of the most contagious viruses we know, and even healthy children can become very unwell. Complications include pneumonia, which is a common reason for hospital admission, inflammation of the brain (encephalitis), which can cause long-term neurological problems, and, in rare cases, death. Many children also require hospital care for dehydration, breathing difficulties, or severe fever.
Vaccination doesn’t just protect the individual child, it helps prevent outbreaks altogether, protecting babies who are too young to be vaccinated and people with weakened immune systems.

Preference for “natural immunity”
Some parents feel it’s better for children to catch illnesses naturally.
Our advice:
We acknowledge that many parents want to support their child’s immune system in the most natural way possible and this usually comes from a place of wanting to protect their child, not avoiding care. We explain that while natural infection can lead to immunity, it also exposes a child to the full risks of the disease itself. With measles, those risks include high fever, severe illness, pneumonia, brain inflammation, hospitalisation, and in rare cases long-term harm or death.
Vaccines work by safely training the immune system to recognise and fight an infection without the child having to become seriously ill. They stimulate immunity in a controlled way, avoiding the unpredictable and sometimes severe complications that can occur with natural infection.
In the case of measles, there is no added health benefit to catching the illness naturally, but there is a clear and well-established risk. For that reason, the balance of evidence shows that vaccination offers the safest way to gain protection, while natural infection carries far greater and unnecessary risk.

Wanting to delay until the child is “older or stronger”
This often comes from a place of protectiveness rather than opposition.
Our advice:
We explain that the timing of the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine isn’t random, it’s carefully chosen to protect children when they are most at risk. Measles is most dangerous in young children, particularly under-fives, where the risk of complications such as pneumonia, severe dehydration, and hospitalisation is highest. Delaying vaccination leaves children unprotected during this vulnerable period, especially at a time when measles outbreaks are increasing.
We also reassure parents that the vaccination schedule is based on extensive research into both safety and effectiveness. The vaccine is offered at the age when a child’s immune system responds well to it, while also ensuring protection as early as possible. The schedule has been designed and reviewed by experts using large-scale evidence, and it continues to be monitored to make sure it remains safe and effective.
Parents often find reassurance in knowing that the schedule is there to offer the best balance of early protection and safety, rather than being about convenience or rushing vaccinations.

Mistrust or feeling pressured
Some parents feel they weren’t listened to or were rushed previously.
Our advice:
We take the time to listen properly, acknowledge concerns, and answer questions calmly makes a huge difference. Many parents aren’t looking to be persuaded; they’re looking to be heard and understood. We find that when concerns are met with patience rather than pressure, parents are more able to absorb information and feel confident in their decisions.
Parents are far more likely to feel reassured when they don’t feel judged, dismissed, or rushed. We aim to creating a space where questions are welcomed, including difficult or repeated ones, helps build trust. That trust often becomes the foundation for informed decision-making, whether that leads to vaccination immediately or after further reflection.

Ultimately, most parents are simply seeking reassurance rather than persuasion. When their concerns are listened to, taken seriously, and answered honestly, including discussing both benefits and risks, many families feel able to move forward with confidence. For some, that decision is made straight away; for others, it comes after time to think and ask more questions. Both are valid. What matters most is that parents feel informed, supported, and respected as they make decisions for their child.

For further information, you could have a look at some of the following:

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