Why aren't people vaccinating against measles?

[TableTurners]

Just read about the measles outbreak in Enfield and Haringey at the moment - just wondering why a lot of people aren't vaccinating again measles these days?

Apparently the UK has lost it's measles free status or something, just seems weird to me that we're letting something old fashioned like this go rife again.

Cause they are stupid conspiracy theorists.

Agree with the first reply.

All the hospitalised children have not been vaccinated.

Because they want to kill their children or cause them irreparable damage.

This thread has quite a long discussion: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5490768-heres-how-a-child-dies-of-measles?reply=150543871

Some children who haven't been vaccinated can't be, for good medical reasons. Others will be too young to have been vaccinated yet. This makes it all the more important that most of the children who could be vaccinated do get the MMR. The risk of complications from these nasty illnesses, which can cause serious illness, lifelong disability and even death, is surely just not worth taking.

Because they are prats. Family history - one death from measles, one deafness caused by measles.

Plain thick or ill- informed. Less common amongst some cultures with high numbers in those areas to vaccinate too.

My kids have had all their vaccinations (including flu, and I paid for private chickenpox as well), but I think it is true that a very tiny minority of children suffer vaccine damage. To me that risk is so small that the risk of serious illness from disease is higher, but many people frankly aren’t very bright and can’t weigh this up effectively.

Covid made a lot of people sceptical about vaccines. There’s a lot of stuff circulating on social media about vaccines containing heavy metals/lead/ leading to autism. Once people get into that algorithm it will keep repeating those sorts of mantras.

Also, measles hasn’t been prevalent due to the vaccine for a number of years so people feel safe not vaccinating their kid. It’s now got to the stage so many aren’t vaccinated the disease can take hold and spread. Frightening if you have a baby that’s too young for the vaccine, your child is at risk due to the ignorance of others.

Because they are stupid

Dr Google

stupid parents not understanding how we keep ALL children safe, pregnant women and the vulnerable, unborn babies

I’m surprised you didn’t know about the parents who think they know better - it’s been an issue for quite a few years - hence losing status

they don’t seem to be able to weigh up the real risks if they don’t have the vaccination for their children - more risk for pregnancy women coming into contact and having their children be born deaf or similar

so bloody sad and outrageous - unvaccinated kids shouldn’t be allowed to mix

Some people are thick and believe the anti-vax nutters.

It's going to take a full one outbreak of measles with deaths and disabilities before the general population take it seriously and start vaccinating again unfortunately, especially among "some" communities.

It's an absolute travesty that we're losing our "measles free" status as a country - just another step towards us becoming a third world shit hole country!

• Ill founded worries and conspiracy theories about the risks of vaccinations
• Religious or ethical concerns about the ingredients of the vaccine.
• Laziness, ignorance or stupidity
• Being convinced that everyone else has vaccinated so their child will be safe without.

Because some people are bloody stupid.

Some people believe the minuscule risk of side effects from the jab outweighs the real risks of the disease.
Some believe the debunked rubbish that vaccines cause autism etc.
Some want to coast off herd immunity.
Some don’t like upsetting their child even though it’s in the child’s best interest.
Some come from communities that are sceptical of heath services/institutions (often for good reasons).
Some just can’t be bothered to attend.
Some don’t think these diseases are really that bad.

Unfortunately the more people think like this, the worse it will become & these diseases will once again be a fact of daily life rather than history.

@Applecharlotte2

unvaccinated kids shouldn’t be allowed to mix

Starting to think that vaccinations need to be compulsory for things like school and accessing the NHS - impose some real rules to try to encourage the thickoes to get their kids vaccinated by having real consequences and loss of public services for those who don't.

People have forgotten how dangerous measles can be because they’ve not seen it due to the .. vaccination.

That last one irritates me to hell!!!!!

they shouldn’t be able to mix

I’m sorry but the vaccinations need to be compulsory

There are a lot of ignorant responses on this thread. The issues is not usually anti vax people, it's difficulties engaging in a culturally appropriate way with different groups in society... language barriers, ability to access health services, lack of trust in medical practices, racism etc. It's plain lazy to just assume it's people actively deciding not to vaccinate.

Because they are irredeemably thick and prepared to risk the lives of their children and other children who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons as they'd rather believe crackpots on tiktok or whatever

We need to find a way to get through the anti vax idea. As much as I agree that they are lacking logic if we start throwing around names I don’t think that is going to change opinions!

I don’t know the proper answer because to me it’s always been a no brainer to vaccinate but we need to find a way to ease people’s fears without making them feel judged for having those fears.

I also think it’s important that childcare providers and schools know the vaccination status of children. Not to judge but so they know who may be at risk, and so those children who can’t be vaccinated can be better protected.

I had a parent in my place of work who didn’t vaccinate because she didn’t know what was in the ingredients.
I wanted to ask her if she knew what was in the ingredients of the paracetamol she took or the antibiotics we gave her child. 🙄

Oh rubbish that’s always been there - and it was years before covid

its painful parents questioning medical profession over something so simple as vaccinations and safety for all - it started with that stupid guy putting it in peoples heads it would lead to autism

Antivaxer propaganda spread on social media. I’ve seen so much of it on facebook it’s shocking. It scares parents into thinking your child will die from vaccine injury and all sorts of theories, including the autism one, which was debunked 30 years ago as it was based on a research with made up data, but people still spread this misinformation. I find it really baffling

Exactly!!

they need to look at what happens in the developing world

they need their bloody heads banging together

It’s such a hypocrisy hedging their bets their children would be protected due to others vaccinations!!