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Igotjelly · 14/02/2026 12:39

Eyesopenwideawake · 14/02/2026 12:19

I've read this several times and don't understand you.

It means good folks are held to higher standards than MAGA nuts.

RedTagAlan · 14/02/2026 13:12

Igotjelly · 14/02/2026 12:39

It means good folks are held to higher standards than MAGA nuts.

But MAGA nuts do not really understand that much surely ?

As evidence, I point to tariffs. Most MAGA think it is the exporting country that pays them, as does POTUS.

:-)

SerendipityJane · 14/02/2026 13:24

RedTagAlan · 14/02/2026 13:12

But MAGA nuts do not really understand that much surely ?

As evidence, I point to tariffs. Most MAGA think it is the exporting country that pays them, as does POTUS.

:-)

Remember there are people who will go to their graves after this day convinced the world is flat.

The problem with mass communication is it is very easy for morons to believe their views are somehow valid. Which is why whenever advances have been made, the challenge has been to ensure morons don't flourish.

Previously attaching reading and writing to the power of the state and religion did the trick. But in the 21st century it's obvious "AI" is going to discharge that duty. And when you realise that, you realise why everyone + dog is frantically rushing into it.

BustingBaoBun · 14/02/2026 15:16

RedTagAlan · 14/02/2026 13:12

But MAGA nuts do not really understand that much surely ?

As evidence, I point to tariffs. Most MAGA think it is the exporting country that pays them, as does POTUS.

:-)

And of course thick Trump reducing the price of certain medication by 600%.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/02/2026 15:39

I'd have translated SJ's post as "It seems a little unfair that people who are mentally challenged are not expected to think or to be able to think, but people who are able to think are expected to do so."

JoshLymanSwagger · 14/02/2026 16:20

RedTagAlan · 14/02/2026 13:12

But MAGA nuts do not really understand that much surely ?

As evidence, I point to tariffs. Most MAGA think it is the exporting country that pays them, as does POTUS.

:-)

Yeah.
When you find out you have to pay more for (Chinese) white goods or a new (Japanese or S Korean) TV...it won't be helping those inflation figures 🤦🏻‍♀️

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/02/2026 16:28

Unemployment is up even though as many as half a million people have been deported and are therefore not competing for jobs as well is the ones incarcerated, inflation is up for justabout everything that you buy as a general thing like food and clothes, and people are still saying with conviction that Trump is wonderful and his economic policies are saving the country.

DuncinToffee · 14/02/2026 20:27

Rubio is offering Europe a junior partnership: embrace Trumpism, ditch climate action, endorse nativism.

A Trump adjacent ally will put this on the ballot paper in most national elections, though most people in most European democracies are sceptical/opposed

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/14/marco-rubio-us-child-of-europe-trump-munich

placemats · 14/02/2026 21:48

I'm not at all surprised @DuncinToffee

Although the news summary at 12pm ( it lasts 4 minutes) on Radio 4 earlier intimated it was a positive speech from Rubio. Which shocked me as I follow this thread. I was on my way back from the recycling centre.

countrygirl99 · 14/02/2026 22:54

I think we've got to the stage where it's seen as positive if they don't actually threaten anything.

PerkingFaintly · 15/02/2026 00:23

Breadcrumbing.

logicisall · 15/02/2026 07:50

placemats · 14/02/2026 21:48

I'm not at all surprised @DuncinToffee

Although the news summary at 12pm ( it lasts 4 minutes) on Radio 4 earlier intimated it was a positive speech from Rubio. Which shocked me as I follow this thread. I was on my way back from the recycling centre.

This is a comment from a Telegraph reader. I have not listened to the full speech yet, but from the comments, I gather that people focussed on the threat of Muslim (implied) immigration to social services and our British values and way of life.

It was a good speech. Explaining the Trump doctrine without being a tool and insulting us like Hegseth or Vance.

logicisall · 15/02/2026 07:54

PerkingFaintly · 15/02/2026 00:23

Breadcrumbing.

I think you are spot on. We would be stupid to continue to align ourselves more with the US, especially on defence.

logicisall · 15/02/2026 07:58

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/02/2026 16:28

Unemployment is up even though as many as half a million people have been deported and are therefore not competing for jobs as well is the ones incarcerated, inflation is up for justabout everything that you buy as a general thing like food and clothes, and people are still saying with conviction that Trump is wonderful and his economic policies are saving the country.

Edited

Latest unemployment figures suggest differently - but look at the sectors with jobs...

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/11/economy/us-jobs-report-january-final

A stronger-than-expected jobs report could signal a labor market turnaround – with caveats | CNN Business

US job growth was historically weak last year. And US job growth was significantly stronger than expected at the start of this year.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/11/economy/us-jobs-report-january-final

Spandauer · 15/02/2026 08:30

"taking down the Pope"...
Every revelation makes my brain hurt.

Steve Bannon, a former White House adviser to US President Donald Trump, discussed opposition strategies with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein against Pope Francis, with Bannon saying he hoped to “take down” the pontiff, according to newly released files from the US Department of Justice.

www.aol.com/articles/steve-bannon-courted-epstein-efforts-050147340.html

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SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 11:50

In news that pretty much underlines how incredibly insular (and therefore dim) a lot of Americans are, the Democrats have chosen now to try to "reassure" the rest of the world that Trump only has another 2 years.

If there was a Nobel Prize for "missing the fucking point" then maybe the US democracts could be in with a chance.

*I am reminded of the numpties who insists the high street isn't dead. It fucking is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrq2r9y278o

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, left, and Gavin Newsom

Democrats seek to reassure Europe about post-Trump America

Opposition politicians flocked to a summit in Munich to offer an alternative to America First - and stake a claim as future party leaders.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrq2r9y278o

AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2026 15:22

For our US peeps and those who may be considering visiting the US, especially places where children congregate. More than one serious outbreak in the past few years has been tied to theme parks;

https://www.cnn.com/health/tracking-measles-cases-us-maps-vis?utm_source=cnn_Five+Things+for+Sunday%2C+February+15%2C+2026&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=0BGtsKoTqayN3EAysYijFvVQDmQQcjIevsKwWopgpSHt5G6Motm%2BDdISL1AWmOEx&bt_ts=1771164340389

Spiking measles numbers, thank you Scrotus, RFK, and anti-vaxxers. Measles cases were practically unheard of when my sons were children in the '80s-'90s. It was declared eradicated in the US in 2000. If I was the parent of school aged children, I'd be very concerned.

I'm old enough that I remember measles being a serious concern as the vaccine wasn't licensed here til 1963. I remember whole classes going down with them. I had both Rubeola which made me so deathly ill at 3 that I can still remember how ill I was, and Rubella luckily a mild-ish case at 9, both now preventable by vaccine. I have a niece who was affected due to her mum having Rubella in the 1st trimester.

Now a PSA; If you had measles you have life-long immunity. But if you were vaccinated the immunity can wane. So if you are concerned for yourself or your loved ones or if you are or plan to get pregnant, it's a simple blood test and a booster shot if you are not pregnant. If you are pregnant, you can't get the shot, but at least you'll know to be very careful.

UK stats

ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/vaccine-preventable-diseases/measles

Tracking measles cases in the United States | CNN

Recent outbreaks of measles in the United States are driving up case counts and raising alarm among public health experts, especially as vaccination rates among children lag.

https://www.cnn.com/health/tracking-measles-cases-us-maps-vis?bt_ee=0BGtsKoTqayN3EAysYijFvVQDmQQcjIevsKwWopgpSHt5G6Motm%2BDdISL1AWmOEx&bt_ts=1771164340389

AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2026 15:38

logicisall · 15/02/2026 07:58

Latest unemployment figures suggest differently - but look at the sectors with jobs...

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/11/economy/us-jobs-report-january-final

The head of DoL is a Trumper. Therefore I don't trust the statistics.

"She publicly endorsed Donald Trump ahead of the May 2024 primary in Oregon. Following her nomination, she has expressed commitment to advancing his agenda, stating she will "work tirelessly to help President Trump put the American Worker First".

The numbers may show and 'increasing' job picture although I doubt the validity of the statistics to begin with, but what it doesn't show is that the vast majority of them do not pay a living wage. So, whoopee to there being 103k new jobs. Those jobs are going to be filled by far less than 103k workers. There are many people having to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. 'Entry level' job wages are dire, too. Employers have employees by the balls in this economy.

I'm lucky that my sons made choices that have resulted in good careers. But they were embarking on those careers in the early 2000s when we had a good economy. It's not so easy for today's 20/30 somethings to find good paying jobs that offer career enhancement.

RedTagAlan · 15/02/2026 15:41

AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2026 15:22

For our US peeps and those who may be considering visiting the US, especially places where children congregate. More than one serious outbreak in the past few years has been tied to theme parks;

https://www.cnn.com/health/tracking-measles-cases-us-maps-vis?utm_source=cnn_Five+Things+for+Sunday%2C+February+15%2C+2026&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=0BGtsKoTqayN3EAysYijFvVQDmQQcjIevsKwWopgpSHt5G6Motm%2BDdISL1AWmOEx&bt_ts=1771164340389

Spiking measles numbers, thank you Scrotus, RFK, and anti-vaxxers. Measles cases were practically unheard of when my sons were children in the '80s-'90s. It was declared eradicated in the US in 2000. If I was the parent of school aged children, I'd be very concerned.

I'm old enough that I remember measles being a serious concern as the vaccine wasn't licensed here til 1963. I remember whole classes going down with them. I had both Rubeola which made me so deathly ill at 3 that I can still remember how ill I was, and Rubella luckily a mild-ish case at 9, both now preventable by vaccine. I have a niece who was affected due to her mum having Rubella in the 1st trimester.

Now a PSA; If you had measles you have life-long immunity. But if you were vaccinated the immunity can wane. So if you are concerned for yourself or your loved ones or if you are or plan to get pregnant, it's a simple blood test and a booster shot if you are not pregnant. If you are pregnant, you can't get the shot, but at least you'll know to be very careful.

UK stats

ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/vaccine-preventable-diseases/measles

UK too. This today :

'Fast-spreading' measles outbreak in London leaves dozens of children infected | UK News | Sky News

'Fast-spreading' measles outbreak in London leaves dozens of children infected

Health authorities are urging families to vaccinate their children against measles as a surge in cases in several Enfield and Haringey schools threatens to spark a widespread outbreak.

https://news.sky.com/story/fast-spreading-measles-outbreak-in-north-london-leaves-over-60-children-infected-13507769

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 15:51

There really is a grim irony that the actions of these ghouls is reducing, not increasing the supply of nice white Americans.

RedTagAlan · 15/02/2026 15:54

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 15:51

There really is a grim irony that the actions of these ghouls is reducing, not increasing the supply of nice white Americans.

I wish Sky had picked a nicer looking belly button for their photo tho. That one is odd.

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 16:01

AcrossthePond55 · 15/02/2026 15:38

The head of DoL is a Trumper. Therefore I don't trust the statistics.

"She publicly endorsed Donald Trump ahead of the May 2024 primary in Oregon. Following her nomination, she has expressed commitment to advancing his agenda, stating she will "work tirelessly to help President Trump put the American Worker First".

The numbers may show and 'increasing' job picture although I doubt the validity of the statistics to begin with, but what it doesn't show is that the vast majority of them do not pay a living wage. So, whoopee to there being 103k new jobs. Those jobs are going to be filled by far less than 103k workers. There are many people having to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. 'Entry level' job wages are dire, too. Employers have employees by the balls in this economy.

I'm lucky that my sons made choices that have resulted in good careers. But they were embarking on those careers in the early 2000s when we had a good economy. It's not so easy for today's 20/30 somethings to find good paying jobs that offer career enhancement.

- YouTube

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https://youtu.be/XgyGxh4mpGA

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 16:02

RedTagAlan · 15/02/2026 15:54

I wish Sky had picked a nicer looking belly button for their photo tho. That one is odd.

Just a gentle reminder that body shaming - especially of children - is best left to not very nice people..

RedTagAlan · 15/02/2026 16:05

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 16:02

Just a gentle reminder that body shaming - especially of children - is best left to not very nice people..

Apologies. I did not know it was a child. I thought young man. And I did not think belly buttons was body shaming. But now I do.