Labour isn't working - Thread 27

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Remember, folks - it’s the ‘far right’ who are a threat to democracy….

Ironically, the Labour councillors will now do worse than if Starmer had not tried to cancel the local elections in the first place.

It’s delicious.

I am quite serious when I say that I think it would be prudent if the DPP were to go back through all of Starmer’s case files, and do a thorough review of each.

Imagine being a local Labour Councillor who know has to campaign to keep their seat after actively being part of a concerted effort to deny democracy . This, in order to prop up the Labour Councils positions and stop any holding to account. I do wonder if it will be any point in the Labour Party fielding any candidates for the Local Elections such will be the bloodbath. I can only laugh at what the opinions of Labour Councillors who thought they had at least of another of office towards Kier Starmer are !

What a total plank the man is 16 U turns in 19 months.....

On Monday, the news broke that the Ministry of Justice had ordered the deletion of the UK’s single largest court reporting archive. Courtsdesk, a private company which entered into an agreement with the Government in 2020, holds records from millions of magistrates’ court cases. These records can be accessed by journalists, ensuring that the public has some way of finding out about what’s happening in our justice system.

But if the Government gets their way, journalists and investigators will lose access to millions of historic magistrates’ cases. The same goes for the upcoming national inquiry into grooming gangs, which will no longer be able to use these records to make links, identify patterns, or uncover networks of grooming and abuse.

The Government initially said that this was because of data rules. Then, in the House of Commons, Justice Minister Sarah Sackman claimed that Courtsdesk had shared sensitive data with an AI company, in breach of their agreement with the Government.

It turns out that none of this is true. In a truly damning blog post, the CEO of Courtsdesk totally took apart these claims. It turns out that the firm never shared sensitive information for commercial purposes, had never breached the agreement made with the Government, and spent months trying to speak to officials after they made the initial claim.

Most damningly, it turns out that the Ministry of Justice didn’t even consider this so-called breach to be worth reporting to the Information Commissioner’s Office. If it had been as serious as Ms Sackman claimed, she would have needed to report it within 72 hours.

I do wonder if it will be pointless putting any Labour name on any ballot form for election to anything....

Total plank and has surely lost any shred of credibility.

@DiySteve I can't see the link but that news broke more than a week ago I think - I can't keep up - so I'm not sure which Monday they're referring to! The way I heard it initially was that it was happening with the accusations of problems with data, and that was always going to be questioned. It's really sad but I just automatically don't believe anything they say now.

Which is quite weird because at some point they've actually got to be right about something? Maybe that's optimistic.

I would like to look at a lot of cases, but my thinking is that there must be other people who have copies of these records - it doesn't say much for our system in general, though.

@CruCru so you had a bad feeling as well, interesting.

He’ll be bristling and fizzing at being defeated on this one.

He has probably tasked Hermer to prep ‘delaying’ the next GE.

I hope Reform is alive to this, too.

I hope so 😁

OMG, that really is appalling. WTF is going on with this government. It's not even just trying to cover their own arses - they seem to be actively attacking the UK and trying to destroy it.

Cancelling elections was at least about protecting their party's interests, and plausibly about saving money as well. Bad behaviour, but comprehensible motivations. This morning I was feeling reassured that democracy won out. When an attack on democracy is prevented, I think that actually strengthens our state. I'm not being party political: I see Johnson's attempt to push through the EU withdrawal bill without parliamentary debate in the same way.

But attempting to delete records of court cases is incomprehensible: except with a very dangerous interpretation.

Word seems to be that Labour will hold Denton. If the majority is slashed right down that might be a good thing for the Tories: Reform stalls a bit and Labour gets a battering - in a seat that the Tories could never win and have nothing to lose.

I know I shouldn't judge things by MN

But do people think the majority of people know about stuff like the court records? For a long time, I've had the sense that people don't know the most important stuff. Irresponsible reporting has a lot to do with that as well.

What ‘word’? Seems like wishful thinking by the remaing few deluded labour zealots.

From Labour? I’ve seen some posts on here from people who are campaigning but surely they would say that.

I heard it from a journalist friend. She said that was the expectation among MPs.

Curious, given that they are currently on recess.

And, presumably, these views were therefore prior to Starmer’s latest (forced) u-turn.

Good luck if it's all been deleted

But there are several parties in a case, so wouldn't they have records?

I can't remember who it is that works for a law firm on here.

Surely this will increase more people to turn out at the polls which if they had never messed around trying to stop people voting would not of happened complete idiots

Hopefully. They’ll deserve it if so.

Rumours that Starmer u-turned over his initial choice of breakfast cereal this morning are, so far, unfounded…

Unemployment has risen to its highest level in almost five years, official data shows.

The unemployment rate rose to 5.2pc in the final quarter of last year, which was the highest since January 2021, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

It is the latest sign that the UK’s jobs market is continuing to deteriorate. The unemployment rate has either risen or remained flat since August 2024.
It stood at 5.1pc in the three months to November.

Andrew Griffith, the shadow business secretary, said the Labour government was “creating a jobless generation” with its policies.

He said: “These figures show the impact of a ‘zombie government’ with no plan for growth.

“Labour’s jobs tax, economic uncertainty and their red tape Employment Rights Bill are holding back hiring, creating a jobless generation.”
The number of people on payrolls dropped by 134,000 in the year to January, taking the total to 30.3m.

I’m not surprised.
They are actively disincentivising companies to hire. What did they expect??

Exactly. This is what they should be answering to. Dangerous, clueless idiots that they are.