Is anyone else struggling after going down Epstein files rabbit hole

[Strugglingafterseeing]

I feel so upset and disturbed. I didn't want to see and read the things I have but I just couldn't look away from the horror. I think part of me was hoping to come across something that says it's all fake news. It's all exaggerated and made up. But it isn't is it? It's probably not even the half of it.

Perhaps very naively, I thought the files "just" involved girls of 14/15 being trafficked among all the other corruption. I had no idea how much more there was. The horrors that have come to pass and no doubt are still are still happening while these monsters remain shielded by their money and power.

Is anyone else really struggling with what they've seen and learnt over the last few days? And any advice to try and move forwards now, because ultimately I can't change this and my mental health was already fragile (thanks menopause). I need to keep on going for my own DC. I'm angry and so, so sad that humans are capable of this.

My Instagram is meant to be funny reels about dogs and menopause but now I'm being fed more and more about Epstein. I know it's the algorithm effect because I've watched similar content but now I need it to stop. I've logged out for the time being. Might not go back. I don't think our brains are meant to able to deal with all this.

Those poor babies. How on earth can this be real

Ps, have name changed, only as prefer to keep this thread separate to my regular username.

I avoid sm sites for news. What allegations are there about babies?

Be careful OP. I haven't seen any Instagram videos myself, but I have read that there are a lot of faked videos.

The reality is bad enough, I don't know why people might make fake videos of abuse, it is sick.

@MidWayThruJanuary I have no intention to go into any details here as that wouldn't be fair on anyone who doesn't want to be inadvertently exposed to it.

More just wanted to know if anyone else feels similar at the moment.

@PandoraSocks thankfully I haven't seen any videos of victims but exerts from the files are devastating enough.

Why not just read what’s on the bbc? Who needs all this on their lives? Do something else with your time. There’s nothing you can do about it.

I saw someone on here saying if you want to know what’s really coming out in the Epstein’s files look on Twitter because it’s not being properly reported anywhere else. To my eternal regret I downloaded Twitter because I didn’t think I really understood the controversy about the Epstein’s files. I know he was a paedophile who trafficked girls, but didn’t know what the new information was. I searched under Epstein latest and the first tweet that came up was a picture of what looked like a mummified foetus he had as an ornament. People were demanding it be tested/x-rayed etc. The second picture was Epstein’s grappling a child onto a bed. It looked like he was about to bite her bum. Enough! I deleted the app. I changed my mind - I don’t want to know.

I’ve only read what’s been released in the media. So I know about the sleazy emails between Mandelson and Epstein. I know about the money grabbing emails between Sarah Ferguson and Epstein but that’s the extent of what I know.

Is there more? And if there is why aren’t the mainstream media reporting on it?

I have mo idea how I'd go about looking at the files themselves, and not sure I'd want to. It's enough just reading/seeing what the BBC/Sky news/newspapers are reporting.

Yeah I deleted my threads app as it was completely full of it all. And I was going down rabbit holes that were upsetting.
what can I as a mum in the uk actually do about it?

Genuinely, it wasn't intentional. I don't go looking for it. Was just having a quick scroll through Instagram last night. I don't follow anyone controversial or political. But one thing about EF pops up, then another, then another... I was in shock what I was seeing and reading.

@cosimnotwhereitsat this is what I keep asking myself. What can any of us actually do? No one is being held accountable it seems.

Please can we not go into details here.

I just want to ask how we move forwards.

Instagram is not mandatory.

I don't understand people who spend their days on SM (MN excepted.)

Why waste your day looking at what other people do? (Yes, I get the irony.)

Don't believe anything you see on Twitter or Instagram etc. There is a lot of awful stuff that actually happened but there is a load of fake stuff too.

Social media is never a reliable source and people have their own agendas.

Move forwards?

Read a book, go for a walk, phone a friend.

Stop immersing yourself in something that has no real relevance to your life.

Terrible crimes occur all the time.
We don't need dwell on them 24/7.

Why on earth would you make such assumptions? I've been at work all week. I was just having a quick scroll on my phone after a shower.

Thank you for letting me know it's not mandatory 🙄

To help your algo, tell Instagram you’re not interested on every reel about it, then go watch some of the creators you like and make sure you like their videos. Search for funny cats etc.

As a victim of SA by my own fucking brother, yes I’m struggling.

I also got sucked down a rabbit hole until about 2am from Instagram despite not engaging with this type of content usually. I easily debunked some of the videos I saw. I am now of a mind that if a piece of “evidence” is not shared with the ref number from the files then it bollocks.

I am so sorry. I really hope you are getting support.

I feel the same. The mainstream UK media are very limited in what they are reporting, mostly Andrew & Mandelson.(one could wonder why!). I don't use social media except mn so don't look but there is a lot more on you tube. Obvs pick your intended viewing with care too.

You need to manage what you consume.

Get off SM, keep vaguely up to date via a reputable news source and do something healthier with your time.

I'm struggling with it too. It makes for difficult reading, but it is worth noting that amongst the (genuine) horrifying stuff, I've also seen claims that are clearly AI and faked, mostly on Instagram and as OP says, once you come across one video, the algorithm feeds you more and more.
The AI stuff I saw claimed that he was roasting and eating children so it is very extreme. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no credible evidence for this.
It's frustrating because what is there is bad enough and it also means that when genuine evidence arises, its difficult to know if it is real. It also means that the men involved will find it easier to claim it was all fake. Perhaps that's the point.

Good advice!

Please stick to proper news outlets. There’s a lot of deepfake AI stuff currently around the Epstein files. Not to say that he didn’t do some horrendous stuff, but with random videos and excerpts on Twitter and Instagram you just don’t know the provenance of them. And mixing fact with fiction is how bad actors become legitimised . And then the more you look at stuff which is possibly fake, the more the algorithm feeds it and it becomes your entire social media footprint.