Whatever Atrocity is Next... - Trump Thread #154

[Spandauer]

I actually put this as a 'placeholder' title whilst I tried to think of a better one. But then, on reflection, copy editing didn't seem necessary.

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WTF were the regulators ? Were they bribed to certify these things ?

No idea, but I knew someone who had one – new, and he was annoyingly proud of it – and got trapped on the hard shoulder of the M4 for several hours before the police came and told him to move along, and he was able to show them a note telling them why he couldn't. He had done a lot of waving at passing cars while he waited; quite a lot of passengers waved back...

Luckily the bonnet had a manual catch, so the police were able to get at the fuse-box and fix the problem for him, and he leapt out of the car and headed for a bush, to the accompaniment of much slightly cruel laughter according to him.

Most made for sure. BYD. Not sure if it's most popular :-)

I am not into cars, but I do armchair follow this. China has massive over capacity in EVs, and they need the world market to buy them. And the way the state subsidies work is complex. But basically Chinese EV makers ( all state owned), can make a profit without actually selling cars to real people. So they buy them from themselves, get plates put on, and store them. Problem is, cos so many are being made to be put in storage, the makers are massively cutting costs on making the "stored" cars. But people being greedy, these stored cars are being sold as " zero miles" used cars.

This is developing into a problem. And I reckon the Party will be wanting to pull the plug on Tesla, the main competitor.

And Starlink and how it was used in Iran.

By the way, Apple do things differently so they are pretty safe from the Party, But that's for another day :-)

Being trapped on the most dangerous place in the UK per square metre is no laughing matter. It sounds like the police (as you might well expect) totally failed here. Rather than laughing like schoolboys (even though it's in their nature) they should have had the DVSA attend and look at Construction and Use regulations and if Telsas comply.

And if there isn't a requirement that doors should be functional in the event of no power, then there damn well should be.

If this is about electric cars locking people in when the power fails then yes it's happened to someone I know.

He got freaked out and the fire brigade had to be called, but they hesitated over smashing the door to free him. Roadside breakdown vehicles now carry emergency chargers for this

Tesla do have a latch inside to open the doors. But I can't remember the details.

I can only repeat. Being trapped in a car on a British motorway hard shoulder is probably the most risk space in the country. And when death comes it will be unexpected so you'll probably be a bit cross when you get to heaven.

It was a Volvo in the 1980s, not a Tesla which had not yet been invented.

Tesla's share prices are so completely untethered to its sales or profits already. It's actually crazy how much more the share price is than the yearly profit.
If it was a normal company someone could make a killing short selling.
I like the previous quote about Trumpian tickling the same neurotransmitters as religion. I think that must apply to Tesla shareholders.

So why was a car made in the 2010s allowed to have a door that cannot be opened manually ?

I think the main problem is, if you are panicking you really need to be able to easily find the door handle and open it. I've been in a stressful situation similar to that and I copied fine but it's amazing how much "stupider" your brain gets under extreme stress. When I would have said I can remain "calm under pressure" before. Can you imagine trying to get someone out of a smouldering car (or being trapped in a car) and not being able to find the sodding handles. Those sorts of situations don't happen everyday but they do happen!
Likewise, if a small child is locked in the car or someone with limited mobility they aren't going to be able to locate and use the latch thing.

Don't ask me, I'm not one of the regulators! That was actually what I was wondering to begin with! Or rather, I wrote "I'm surprised the designers of the Tesla didn't know about that: it was fairly notorious among car-design circles as a bad mistake."

It would be worse news for Farage if Starmer hadn't made Mandleson Ambassador in the first place. If he hadn't then yes, the fact he was in a past Labour administration is embarrassing but most of the focus would have been on Farage's idolisation of Trump who is in up to his neck, on the Steve Bannon and Brexit ties etc etc. As it is, when that's mentioned Farage and Reform will be able to deflect back on Starmer/Mandleson and play the "they're all as bad as each other game". Which Reform are already very good at. It's was such an obvious rake to avoid.

Yup, I know that. I was just saying there is a latch inside.

I ain't a Muskie. The total opposite :-)

Oh I know
And I agree that for China it makes sense from a national interest perspective to block the competition. But it's also a genuine safety issue.

They met the regs by putting a latch inside.

I used to work for a company that was big on regs, and they always tried to get them made stricter. Because they could meet them, while cheap copyists could not.

In general, I reckon any company that wants regs reduced is not to be trusted, from a consumer safety point of view anyway. Another thing Brexiters got totally wrong.

I keep thinking that but not daring to type it, I’m not sure why!

It’s Greece, and yes. My Greek husband (bless his silly little heart) thinks she’s great. (Divorce is on the cards.)

Yes! I don't know where Portugal came from!

It was a bribe to keep her mouth shut on the things she learned when she was in the 'inner circle'.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-g20-doral-giant-statue-b2913280.html?
Don Colossus’ — a 22-foot tall Golden statue of Trump — is set to rise where US will host world leaders for G20

The bronze likeness of the 45th and 47th president was commissioned by a group of cr * ptocurrency investors

I can't access The Independent without paying them, but

...Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Don Colossus really is a colossal narcissist. 🤮

Other sites say it is a mere 12 or 15 feet high.

Lovely bronze shade