Should you be told if the meat you're served is halal?

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If you go to a restaurant or cafe or cafeteria at work or whatever. Would you expect to be informed that they were serving halal meat?

Well no, because there’s an answer to that already.

You can Google why a Muslim would eat halal meat, nobody can ask Google why you have an issue with it.

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It’s my personal preference 🤷🏻‍♀️ is that a good enough answer for you?

I don’t mind either way but I imagine it’s useful for the Muslim population so probably yes? Maybe there are notes or signs on menus, I generally would probably assume lots is halal as it mostly is in schools I think.

Depends if it’s just based in not wanting to eat Islam meat or whatever 🤷🏻‍♀️

True, but it's a decent segment of the population either way. And if even only some Christians, Sikhs, etc disagree with eating halal within their religion, it's still a fair amount of people and seems like it would make sense to publicise on a menu if meat is halal (both for the benefit or muslims who need to make sure it is and those who need to make sure it's not)? And yes, same would go for kosher though I haven't come across that myself so think it's far less common.

I’m fairly sure no one is going to sneak kosher meat in unannounced - it costs so much!

The halal label matters to various people for various reasons so restaurants etc need to be open about it; my best friend is a baptised Sikh who can’t eat it from a religious perspective and my other bestie keeps kosher.

It doesn’t depend on anything because it’s none of your business

It wouldn’t bothered me. I don’t like to think about the fact that my food was once alive so I’m also not interested in how it was slaughtered

Yes then. Thanks!

Just label it clearly what’s the problem!

I know I’ve answered my own question halal labelled meat would not sell!

Clear labelling would be good.

We buy 80% organic and I try to buy free range or organic chicken (red tractor) organic is always stunned. And not a recoverable stun.
Kosher is only the front half of the cow. So I imagine back end isn’t expensive.
I wouldn’t buy kosher or halal by choice.
All slaughter of meat is horrible, so should be done as humanly as possible.
In an ideal world, I would prefer the family eat wild meat like venison. Where is grazing then dispatched.
But I don’t eat any meat or fish. Fish trawling is even worse!
But it should be marked, just like country of origin, where slaughtered etc.

Because the majority of halal meat is from animals that are stunned so if I unknowingly eat halal, the odds are it was stunned. Kosher never is, so to me it feels like no one is even trying to improve things there in the same way it has more broadly been addressed for halal. And whilst I have seen both standard and halal slaughter and did not consider them to inherently different because consciousness was lost so quickly, ideally I would like all animals to be stunned before slaughter because rationally, it must be more humane.

My post was a bit ambiguously phrased, I can see that now. My main point is that I don't care about prayers, I disbelieve in all gods equally. And how the animal is looked after in life is more critical to me than the seconds around it's death.

Not sure how clearly I am explaining myself! It makes sense in my head!

Signs are up to show people who choose to eat halal are eating halal

if anyone who eats meat is that concerned about the welfare of animals I would expect them to enquire where the meat is from

I'm am atheist so believe that prayers are just meaningless words and I couldn't care less what prayers are said when. But if you are religious and do believe that prayers have meaning then does it matter to you if prayers of a different religion are said over the meat you eat? From this thread it appears to matter to Sikhs, but do say Catholics care?

No because I already know why they don't and I'm sure they would be happy to explain to me if I asked.

Let me understand your point of view? You hold it strongly enough to post on the thread?

Yes. I wont eat meat in schools now or hospitals as it is all halal. Ditto subway and KFC. ‘Indian’ restaurants by my house are out too as they’re all Bangladeshi/muslim owned.

Why though? What are your objections?

Exactly!

Google Dr Taj Haregy on sneaking halal meat without clear labelling into our society he said it was the creep of religious fundamentalism and we must have transparency and stop it.

On a personal level, I’m not bothered if it is stated or not as it wouldn’t make any difference to me either way.

However, for those who want to know (either to eat it or to avoid it) I guess it would be easier to just have it clearly stated on the menu or similar.

If it’s important to someone, they should ask. How far are we outsourcing our personal responsibility these days?

Labels on food items are pretty standard.