Left-wing voters, what is your most right wing belief, and right wing voters what is your most left wing belief?

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Katypp · Today 16:38
Right, and I think we should get rid of the royal family

Would you have them exiled like the Greek Royal Family and the Shah of Persia or could they remain in UK?
Would all their possessions be confiscated or just those owned by the state?
Or, when you say ‘get rid’ of them, are you envisaging a cellar in Yekaterinburg situation?

They have enough independent wealth to enable them to retire and live quietly at their own expense. It should have happened decades ago.

For me the problem with 'Stop the Boats' is the framing.

When Labour first discussed this it was about ending the criminal gangs that run the system (which I would wholeheartedly support).

The problem for me is when we target quite vulnerable people as scapegoats and distractions for government problems.

People like Farage etc. means that nuanced issues can't be discussed in good faith.

I’m left leaning

I agree that immigration is out of control and have concerns about the number of young, Muslim men who have arrived here and the risk they post to women and girls. Please don’t at me, I have seen many such cases first hand.
I think the NHS needs slimming down and to be more efficient to be effective.
I think too many people are able to claim benefits for conditions that do not prevent them from working.

Quite. And if any of them can't manage financially, they can get a job, or claim benefits, or draw the old age pension. Just like the rest of us.

Oh and I am a TERF as well.

I have been pondering this all day . I am surrounded by people who claim to be left of centre or left wing but they just really aren't.

I don't think I possess an even slightly right wing view, genuinely I don't. I've done those tests online and everything.

I'm mostly a Lefty. My right wing views are that you can't change sex, and we need to crack down on immigration.
Left wing part of me is green, thinks we need to support disabled people, and people with intellectual difficulties/addictions by not cutting benefits
I would like UBI to be looked at one day
I don't know where I really fit voting wise, but am OK.with Labour so far

Only if people who call themselves capitalists talk to people at the sharp end of sweatshops

Right wing and broadly libertarian. My exceptions - I believe very strongly in a social safety net and think it's a better use of taxes than lots of the other nonsense they get spent on. Especially for people with disabilities - allowing that no system can be perfect, it's better that some scammers get benefits than some disabled people in genuine need don't because they aren't able to fill out the forms in a way that ticks the right boxes.

I also believe in child-centered education and that think teaching to tests to 'raise standards', then complaining that the tests are too easy because too many are passing, is a really stupid cycle. If I had school aged children I'd home educate them. Socialisation can be done very well in environments other than being stuck with a group of 30 others the same age. I think EBSA is a natural response to a broken system that doesn't meet individual needs, not something to be solved by just 'making them' go to school.

Honestly, you can't. But I'd rather hope that some families use that additional money to the betterment of their kids than nobody be able to because the cap is in place.

OP a very interesting thread. I'm heartened by the mix of opinions on here. So much political discussion on MN or elsewhere on SM descends into abuse so quickly.

This shows there is much more nuance than politicians believe.

I'd love to see an analysis of the different issues raised and whether the person believes themselves to be left or right leaning. One thing it definitely shows is that most people hold a mixture of views.
It also stands out to me that immigration is one of the majority of people's concerns whether left or right.

See the vast majority of the right wing people also agree there should be a safety net, it’s just we disagree about the extent and cost of that safety net. Not once on here have I ever seen, no matter how far right the poster, anyone saying there should be zero safety net and it should effectively be survival of the fittest.

Well, it wouldn't be free, the initial out lay inc employing someone to supervise, holiday and sick cover, would be v large.....and in all honesty, you'd run into problems if that was the attitude.
The object of any work for benefits scheme would be to get people into the habit of work, to learn skills etc to be able to get a normal job.

If all you want is Free Labour, then you re looking at slavery really.

Now that has genuinely surprised me.

I’m basically a communist but my friends always joke I’d make a brilliant Tory because I love Waitrose 🤣

I'm finding this thread very interesting 🙂

You’ve probably got a dishwasher and go on holidays abroad too.

I saw an interesting post the other day that right wing people know far more about the views of left wing people, because workplaces, institutions etc are far more likely to be left wing and open to left wing opinion in conversation. It’s only fairly recently right wing politics have been acceptable to even mention, and even then you still get called a Nazi. Ultimately I could confidently describe the spectrum of left wing opinions but I doubt they could do it in reverse. They seem to truly think we all want the death penalty, zero welfare state, police kill squads and to see children begging in rags.

It’s only fairly recently right wing politics have been acceptable to even mention, and even then you still get called a Nazi

Truth hurts ?

Lifelong lefty.

Biological sex matters. Supposedly only bigoted Nazis believe this 🧐

Palestine= good / Israel = bad is a ridiculous and irresponsible over-simplification.

Rapists and child abusers don’t get anywhere near harsh enough prison sentences, and the vast majority are not capable of rehabilitation..

Corbyn is a self righteous prick.
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Case in point! Unintelligent, and a little venomous.

Just succinct. I have always found right wingers appreciate linguistic efficiency.

I’m right of centre but:

1. I believe that - ideally - the railways should be nationalised, subsidised and excellent. Our railways are an embarrassment compared to other places in Europe.
2. Water, gas and electricity too - ideally. These things are too important to be left to private enterprise. However, we are not doing at all well with running the NHS so I doubt whether we’d be up to the job.
3. I believe that men in dresses are still men. That women’s spaces, sports and rights should be for (real, natal, biological) women
4. I am wholly in favour of the availability of safe abortions
5. I deplore the very idea of fox-hunting

Why, are they less articulate?