Left-wing voters, what is your most right wing belief, and right wing voters what is your most left wing belief?

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VV Left Wing but feel that we need some humane way of stopping the small boats (NOT Farage / Tommy Ten Names ways) and returning those whose asylum claims fail. I’ve volunteered with local refugee groups and you can usually spot the real ones a mile away, as they are so grateful for absolutely any help (& tend not to be young men under 30).

Not that there aren’t real male, under-30 refugees but they tend to mainly be economic migrants.

And a way of tapping into those wanting to migrate to fill the job gaps (not that this is r/w)

Would consider myself very left wing, and also a TERF.

Are your friends political philosophers/scientists or similar? If not, they have no greater capacity to define ‘true’ communism for having lived under Ceausescu

@thestudio There have been/are a number of communist countries - do you think any of them have worked, and if so, why?

Still - maybe people who think they’re ‘communists’ should talk to people who have actually lived communism. I find it in bad taste when people say they’re communists, when they live here in the uk. Do me a favour.

I think leftwing populism functions very similarly to right wing populism, and is possibly as prevalent. And that it would help democracy’s prospects if it was subject to the same degree - and critical terms - of analysis by the organs of liberal orthodoxy (academia, news media, ‘commentary’)

Where can we find these mythical people who have lived in a true communist regime? Let me know and I’ll speak to them

LW (or so I had always believed, I am feeling like I’m becoming more RW as I age and this concerns me - so this is a fascinating thread). Sex is immutable but I’m only putting that here tongue in cheek as obviously all us TERFs know we’re not really funded by Nazi billionaires.

I agree with people saying getting those who are able to contribute, doing something. I don’t think large amounts of people should be out of work and/or education and paid benefits to sit around, unless there are very real health reasons meaning that is simply not possible. Otherwise, if someone is able to do something, however little, they should. I do believe having structure and purpose and feeling able to make a contribution is in the best interest of people’s general mental health. Sometimes one does need to crack on with things (shit happens, crack on) rather than sit around navel gazing and feeling woe is me.

Labour voter then now and always. Being #TeamRowling in gender theory and apparently only saying Israel committed war crimes in Gaza, not full on genocide.

left wing socially and economically.

But I believe sex offenders, particularly child sex offenders, should be castrated. Genuinely. Castrate them.

It depends what you mean by communism or socialism. Your tone implies your definition includes authoritarianism, which it doesn't have to.

Fundamentally, socialism is just the principle of taking stuff from everyone, centralizing it, and using the funds for collective good. Ie: health, or roads, or armed forces.

In other words, the UK already is, to some extent, a socialist democracy.

The question is then, how far down the socialist route would we want to go. Some people would like there to be less socialism (lower tax, more individual responsibility), some would like more socialism.

There are very few people who want no socialism at all (full libertarians like Elon Musk) in the UK. And also very few who want full communism like China of old. And vanishingly few either side of the debate who want authoritarian rule.

LW and believe that healthy people of working age on benefits who don't work and who are receiving income based benefits can work one day a week voluntarily in order to receive those benefits.

The specific charity should be left to them, as is the actual work they do. It should never be for a private company seeking to maximise their profits!

It could be reserve work for the RSPB or admin or working in a charity shop or helping at a food bank or helping out at a museum. Whatever.

One day gets them out of the house, provides networking opportunities, a sense of purpose and pride, and valuable transferable skills.

I might also go as far to say that people with milder mental health illnesses could also benefit from this.

Both of my daughters in law were young children under Ceausescu and the tales they’ve told me of what family life was like are harrowing.

Left wing but believe Hamas should be blamed for the situation after all they invaded a country that is terrified of being wiped out and destroyed ( generational trauma from holocaust) so to me they knew what would happen when they pulled the tigers tail and inflicted a war and violence on their own people.
I think all religion is make believe and that woman under Islam are subjugated and therefore Palestine will never be “ free “ for woman or gay people. All those marching free Palestine are deluded, and most would be locked up or worse if they lived there.
A man can never be a woman or a woman a man they can pretend but they are not.
if you want to pay for private education or healthcare go for it, we all spend our money on diffrent things and it frees up NHS and state schools.

Very left-wing, but I don't believe men can become women or that they should be admitted into female single-sex spaces because they have a "female gender." Apparently, this makes me worse than Hitler in some leftie circles, but I just cannot see how giving away women's rights to men is, in any way, progressive, so whatever.

Left wing here - relatively.

• Not all asylum seekers are genuine and I do not believe in uncontrolled immigration but rather skills based migration.
• There are a significant amount of benefit claimants who are able to work but choose not to.
• Nobody has the "right" to have children and that surrogacy is immoral.
• Not all cultures are compatible with British societal expectations.
• I am a TERF

@Spodebodemode I'd join your party!

Oh yes, and I 100% agree that those able to work who do not and are claiming work related benefits should be contributing towards society in some meaningful way.

And also very few who want full communism like China of old.

@MyKindHiker What sort of communism do people want?

I am very left “wing”. My belief in the welfare system is staunch - which is why my apparently right wing view that immigration control is necessary is as it is.
I worked in immigration law/control in the UK for 12 years. The general public has no idea of the costs and difficulties in immigration enforcement so I would re-haul the system entirely and have plenty of ideas on how that’s workable (but who cares!).
There Is also plenty of scope and justification for changing welfare benefits. But one of the worst things about the system currently is how easy (and how extensive UK wise) it is to fall into poverty from illness/disability and the caring responsibilities of those coping with radical changes to income and ability to work (the carers I mean and the double impact of loss of working aged people caring). I think no current party even heeds the enormity of this issue nor has the faintest idea of how to deal with it.

Left wing but I think a lot of prison sentences are too short.

I'm also of the belief that the Israel/Gaza situation is not one sided "goodies and baddies". I am a terf. But I don't agree that these are left/right beliefs despite what various nefarious people might have us believe.

RW we should spend more money on people with complex disabilities and their families (thinking respite care, residential care that sort of thing). This doesn’t affect me or anyone I know but some of the stories on here of parents at breaking point really hurt my heart, both from the perspective of the children and the parents.

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I suspect we don't because of the upfront costs, welfare such as toilet facilities, somewhere dry to eat, insurance, equipment, PPE, supervision by suitably experienced staff.....

Right but I’d like to see far more generous benefits and assistance for people with serious disabilities. In particular far better support for those aged over 18.

Would also like to see a meaningful investment in transport and infrastructure in less well off parts of the country.

Right, and I think we should get rid of the royal family

I think you could easily earn back any initial outlay when you can access essentially 'free' labour.