Left-wing voters, what is your most right wing belief, and right wing voters what is your most left wing belief?

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Very left wing here, stopping short of communism.

My most RW views are that we should have a military strong enough that other countries think twice before acting against our interests. I was shocked at Cameron cutting defence spending, reducing our military to little more than window dressing.

It troubles me, but pragmatically I believe we should maintain Trident.

And while I think private schools should be abolished, I'm in favour of state grammar schools.

I'd say I'm centre left but the last few years are making me reconsider. I voted Labour at the last election but have no idea what to do at the next one. I don't know which is most 'right wing' but my current beliefs which don't seem to be 'left wing' are transgender ideology is an unscientific belief system and no-one is born in the wrong body. Israel has a right to defend itself from terrorism. Fundamental Islam is incompatible with Western Liberal democracy. Free speech is an essential component of Western democracy. Beliefs I have which are not 'right wing' are climate change is real and dangerous, the monarchy should be abolished, multi culturalism generally benefits society, Donald Trump is a danger to the world.

Me too 👋

You are my people

Isn’t this what Roosevelt did in the depression in the US?

I absolutely agree about the childcare situation

Not wanting to derail the thread but it isn't divided between people on benefits who can work, but don't and those on PIP.

PIP is incredibly hard to get. There's a whole group of people too ill / disabled to work who are not eligible for PIP

But for those who can work, your idea isn't a bad one

LW here.
I believe that sex is binary and immutable but I don't think of that as being a RW position.

The most obvious RW belief I have is that many people claiming benefits could work if they chose. Not everyone, but a significant minority. There are young adults who have no parents or grandparents who have worked, no role models. This needs to change. I would welcome the introduction of a mandatory 16 hours a week of volunteering in return for. JSA.

Left of centre.

I think the LW massively overlooks the negative effects of multiculturalism.

RW on almost every issue but I am pro-choice on abortion (up to a sensible limit) and anti-blood sports, animal testing and destruction of wildlife habitats. Believe in climate change but not that net zero is the answer.

I feel like there’s a lot of us, probably working class or brought up working class, would say we’re left wing but have had it with a benefits class that doesn’t want to work (excluding real reasons disabilities etc) taking the piss, we’ve had it with multiculturalism failing, we’ve had enough of radical Islam, we’ve had enough of the trans women are women brigade- we just want fucking common sense.
anyone up for starting a new party cos their sure as hell isn’t one that fits the bill anymore? I dropped out of my labour membership years ago.

There are some things that get called RW such as not believing that gender identity overrides biological sex, but are neither left wing or right wing.

I’m broadly left wing.

I strongly believe Israel has as much right to exist (with Israelis being able to live in safety) as any other country in the world. And that virtually every ‘anti Zionist’ is anti semetic, even if they don’t fully realise it.

I also believe trans women are men.

I agree with so much of what so many of you have written. Great idea for a thread @ffsnewusername

I lean centre right but believe in a benefits system, universal healthcare and environmental initiatives. I believe that our society is very unequal and that that causes harm.

Like many, I feel politically homeless. I didn't want to do it, but I have effectively become a single issue voter (which I don't believe is healthy in a democracy) but 'what is a woman?' is a key question for me, if you want my vote. It's much more than 'just' women's rights, it's also freedom of belief and freedom of speech. I think, given that I no longer trust either party with the economy, I may continue to vote based on the answer to that question.

LW. Probably my most RW opinion is that child benefit caps should be preserved. People shouldn't have kids unless they can afford them.

Right of centre here. My most left wing view - maybe that the decimation of the sure start scheme was an act of vandalism with a cascade of economic and social consequences that should leave the Tories shame faced?

Is being GC right wing? I'm not anti trans, but I don't believe TWAW and I accept trans people as themselves, but not as the opposite sex.

But how do you guarantee the children benefit from the money? I always think about this when I see posts such as yours.

I agree to a point - there is a lot of consensus on this thread that is fascinating and encouraging to see. But even within this imagined new party, supposing it were broadly to try to reflect the beliefs set out here, some people would have to compromise, or feel it wasn't for them, right? And so too does any existing party have to try to do the best it can knowing it will alienate some. Based on this thread, there's:

strong consensus that TWANW
fair amount of consensus that Israel/Gaza is at the very least not a question of shouting about rivers and seas
fair amount of consensus that some people are on benefits who could work

But I, at least, would struggle with a party that also believed that multiculturalism is a failure, or grammar schools are not part of an incredibly divisive system that works out super well for a handful of children and not at all for the rest - to give two examples.

@CreativeGreenI certainly didn’t say anything as strong as “multiculturalism is a failure”. I think the negative effects of different cultures’ approaches to various important matters in society (manners, etiquette and education in particular) are overlooked.

I am firmly middle class and wealthy (now: haven’t always been) and I hold this view.

I do not feel I can articulate it IRL, it for fear of being accused of racism.

I am left of centre. Very very left of centre in some respects. And yet I loathe the state school system (having been in it myself, and had my childrenin it at primary level) so I opted for private secondary education for them without the slightest guilt. Even though some members of my left-wing family have never spoken to me since.

Same. And that poorly controlled mass immigration of mainly working age, single, unskilled men from countries where they are not seeking refuge from immediate threat is a social and economic disaster.

No, sorry, @Piglet89 , I know you didn't - just if that were a founding premise for a party, I'd struggle with it.

I feel like I have enough of a struggle with those things like manners, etiquette and education from white British people before even getting on to other cultures, though.

Lefty here...
I think migration needs controls
Men cannot be women
Not all SEN diagnoses are worth the paper they are written on
I worry about the numbers of Muslims where I live....

This is interesting. I'm your opposite. I'm pretty LW and I believe in more stringent limits on abortion on demand (first trimester only maybe). Not because I'm a misogynistic cow who wants to restrict women's rights but because I see abortion as an infringement of the right to life and want to protect those who do not have the ability to defend themselves. I see that as a natural left wing position of freedom to remain alive.

Just to show that the right/last wing divide is pretty dead these days anyway 😂