Left-wing voters, what is your most right wing belief, and right wing voters what is your most left wing belief?

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Yes, I agree to an extent - I do think KS was in an impossible position during the time when interviewers couldn't think of a better question to ask anyone than 'what is a woman', but I also wish they'd been clearer earlier. But at the same time, if the Tories were indeed always less captured, why did they all turn the other way from (in most cases) or actively promote self ID as policy? That's worse, and more cynical, to my mind.

Yes, it was cynical but that's why they can do a 180 on the issue without too much difficulty. Nobody really bought into any of it anyway in the party. Labour have far more true believers though.

Personally I don't mind a bit of political cynicism as I think that's how democracy fundamentally needs to work. Parties should reflect the views of the population to a large extent to give us viable options that do actually reflect our views. For example, the overwhelming majority of the UK population support same sex marriage. The Tories might have historically opposed this due to their ideology but they must recognise that to be a credible political alternative for people then they must now support it.

But doesn't that concern you? Like, what else might they go along with that none of them actually buy into at all?

And yeah, parties should reflect a spectrum of views - and, unfortunately, that includes TWAW, so it's maybe not that unhealthy that there's some of that in Labour, much as I don't care for it. Bearing in mind even the modest steps KS has taken have resulted in him being branded a hater of trans people among some groups, especially younger voters, it probably is important that the party contains representatives of that view too, I think.

Oh because Tommy Robinson is a fine upstanding citizen and Nigel Farage isn't all about the £££for him and his own kind.
I'm more than familiar with how the extreme far right works.

I’m pretty centre left generally but I agree that trade unions (at least in the current form) have too much of a stranglehold not only on Government, but also with their members.

Shocking isn’t it, that ‘understanding’ biological sex, is ‘seen’ as being ‘right wing’ .

More importantly, with the way the country is at the moment, the challenges we face, the severe economic crisis, the political instability, how anyone can still be considering the trans culture war as having any effect on how they vote is incredible. It either comes from a place of privilege, or of obliviousness.

Biological sex is a fundamental differentiator for women’s rights. That is not a ‘culture war’.

It’s because the left started off wanting to erase the distinction between men and women (for good reason, we were legitimately discriminated against) but it went too far.

Like many leftist ideas, it came from a good place.

Neither of those things are RW though.

I don't understand why trans activism, radical Islamism and anti-semitism ever came to be embraced by the 'Left' in the first place. They are the polar opposite of everything of the Enlightenment, progressive, secular, feminist, rational environmentalist Left I grew up in.

I'm left-wing too and I agree with this.

Also, whilst I'm all for taxing the profits made by large businesses, I think that business rates should be scrapped. They've contributed to the decline of our high streets by making many small and medium-sized businesses unviable.

LW here - I suppose the one thing that could feasibly be thought of as RW is that many of our systems that support vulnerable people are too open to exploitation, to the detriment of the actual vulnerable people who depend on those systems.

LW, but I believe that Tommy Robinson is an excellent live public speaker and that the NHS is unsustainable and needs to desperately consolidate on a much smaller range of services with people paying if they want services outside of these.

Absolutely. Although ‘the left’ and the Labour party have historically been misogynistic and sexist. Eg. Trade unions. Ever seen a Labour PM? How did they treat Rosie? Etc

Massive leftie. Some sort of non-military national service would not be a terrible idea for building social cohesion among young people.

For example…

’Institutional sexism within unions continued into the 21st century. A 2020 inquiry into the GMB union, the UK’s third-largest, found it to be "institutionally sexist," with endemic misogyny, cronyism, and a culture that deterred women’s participation. The report noted that women were underrepresented in leadership, with regional secretaries—almost exclusively men—holding disproportionate power. These findings reflect a long-standing pattern in which trade unions, despite their progressive ideals, have often failed to fully embrace gender equality, even as women have been central to many of the most significant labor struggles in British history.’

Agree

Lots of mixing up of what is broadly left and right wing, the glaring one being that not want housebuilding on the Green belt is left wing. The Labour Party want to build housing and solar farms all over the green belt. The countryside is generally more Conservative.

Right of centre but believe some common ownership of assets is the better way. So essentially a socialist belief. I never believed in RTB and think Blair’s first government should have had the courage to stop it. I also don’t believe that most utilities should have been privatised with the only exception maybe being BT.

This is a great idea for a thread OP. It naturally seems to draw out where there may be consensus on the left and right, and I wonder how broad that consensus really is on all kinds of topics!

Too often, I think, loud, minority voices at the extreme, manage to influence policy (and media) , thus taking the country down a road the majority have never agreed to or asked for.

I also think that this is partly why I cannot understand loyal, unquestioned political tribalism, as if one party is always correct and always has all of the answers, and I think politicians who deliberately block beneficial and popular policy purely for political reasons are behaving disgracefully. I’d like to see an end to all that.

I recall a group springing up some years ago which advocated that voters should vote for people, not parties. They conducted blind research asking people which policies they supported most, and those taking part were very surprised to discover whose policies they agreed with!

I'm usually a bit right of centre but I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of a universal basic income. Slash the amount of admin, hoops to jump through, thousands of unnecessary government departments, lengthy assessments and just make a set amount of money available to anyone who applies for it.

RW. But believe that people who participate in or support any type of blood sport, legal or otherwise, whether it’s by verbal support or showing up on Boxing Day should be rounded up and incarcerated for the rest of their lives.

RW and believe in climate change and protecting the environment - environmental destruction in the name of short term economic gain is immensely foolish and risky. I wish there was a socially conservative (no identity politics beyond basic things like discrimination laws & parental leave, tough on immigration), fiscally conservative (pro business & growth tax, workers rights & tenant rights - as in worker & tenant rights set at a level that doesn’t harm business growth or ROI for landlords) but science based pro-environment party.

One of the positive things about the UK elite historically being “landed gentry” is that I think there is an element of environmental conservation in that, a feeling that the elite are stewards of the natural world that they own and their ancestors have owned for generations. This is missing from US contexts where the elite are pure capitalists out to extract value.

I'm LW. I have a few that make people look at me odd.

I don't believe a person can change sex and no, we shouldn't be medicalising gender confused children. My second is that I believe in Israel's right to exist.