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What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

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theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

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MO0N · 03/01/2026 12:03

Clafoutie · 03/01/2026 09:26

Oil. Distraction.

Agree.

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 12:04

Teddleshon1 · 03/01/2026 12:01

@PandoraSocks there are great hopes for Maria Corina Machado, the recipient of the most recent Nobel Peace Prize. She has openly and repeatedly backed Trump in his efforts.

Idk much about her but this sounds encouraging.

CremeCarmel · 03/01/2026 12:04

Diamondsbutnoknickers · 03/01/2026 09:14

Trump and his ego. And oil. Always oil.

As I understand it, Trump has decided that Venezuela are importing drugs into the US and it's suddenly an emergency. So the US has been attacking/seizing/blocking Venezualan boats in the Caribbean and Pacific and the strikes are an escalation of this.

Some people think it's all an excuse to overthrow the current government and claim the oil.

There are debates about whether the US is acting legally (such an odd phrase when it comes to war).

"There are debates about whether the US is acting legally (such an odd phrase when it comes to war)."

I know hardly anything about war, but I assume that even war has (man made) rules. That's why you get people prosecuted as war criminals.

Trump is a full blown maniac. Poor America.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/01/2026 12:07

RedTagAlan · 03/01/2026 11:45

Fentanoil ?

I agree re previous wars being nominally on political ideology, but Trump has blown that now. I reckon he has just lost the US any moral authority to act as the world police.

Yes fentanyl. It’s nonsense but nonsense is currently truth.

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/01/2026 12:08

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 03/01/2026 11:03

One thing bothers me here.

I don't think it's right to see the Afghans as helping US and UK forces. Weren't the Afghans working for democracy and against the Taleban for their own good and for the good of their country? Didn't they want a democratic Afghanistan? Why is that only seen as helping the US and the UK forces?

It wasn’t only for the UK/US benefit. It was for the benefit of Afghanistan too. But when it became an advantage in the US politically to campaign on pulling out the US/UK didn’t give a damn about everyday Afghans or the Afghans who had helped them and left themselves more at risk by doing so and effectively abandoned them.

The lesson is not to trust the US only as long as it is in their own interests to help and be prepared to end up in a worse position because of the help.

Venezuelans may not end up worse off than under Maduro. Put there are plenty of paths to being just as badly off with all the money flowing out of the country into the Trump cartel.

Fawful · 03/01/2026 12:10

Teddleshon1 · 03/01/2026 12:01

@PandoraSocks there are great hopes for Maria Corina Machado, the recipient of the most recent Nobel Peace Prize. She has openly and repeatedly backed Trump in his efforts.

It’s reassuring to know that the US will have planned carefully for what may happen if the military doesn’t want to recognise her

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:10

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 12:04

Idk much about her but this sounds encouraging.

She is the leader of the opposition along with Edmundo Gonzalez (who has been in exile in Spain). Gonzalez was the democratically elected president in the 2024 election that Maduro didn't honour. But, in the meantime, Maduro's VP still seems to be in charge and the military is presumably under his control to at least some extent.

I hope I'm wrong, but I very much fear that this is going to be protracted and ugly.

Agree with the PPs who think this does not bode well for Greenland and Cuba.

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 12:10

Teddleshon1 · 03/01/2026 12:01

@PandoraSocks there are great hopes for Maria Corina Machado, the recipient of the most recent Nobel Peace Prize. She has openly and repeatedly backed Trump in his efforts.

Thank you. Will do some reading up on it all as I am shamefully uninformed.

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 12:12

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:10

She is the leader of the opposition along with Edmundo Gonzalez (who has been in exile in Spain). Gonzalez was the democratically elected president in the 2024 election that Maduro didn't honour. But, in the meantime, Maduro's VP still seems to be in charge and the military is presumably under his control to at least some extent.

I hope I'm wrong, but I very much fear that this is going to be protracted and ugly.

Agree with the PPs who think this does not bode well for Greenland and Cuba.

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Could it descend into civil war?

Dweetfidilove · 03/01/2026 12:13

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 11:27

It’s easy for you to forget there’s real lives under control, people fleeing or starving.

Do you have a suggestion on what to do about that? Given your current disapproval.

I genuinely wish I had a valuable suggestion for you.

For now I'll just disapprove of bombs and kidnapping as a means of stopping starvation, control and exodus. It didn't work in the Middle East, it didn't work in Asia, it didn't work in Africa and it sure as hell won't work in Venezuela 🤷🏾‍♀️.

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 12:16

Dweetfidilove · 03/01/2026 12:13

I genuinely wish I had a valuable suggestion for you.

For now I'll just disapprove of bombs and kidnapping as a means of stopping starvation, control and exodus. It didn't work in the Middle East, it didn't work in Asia, it didn't work in Africa and it sure as hell won't work in Venezuela 🤷🏾‍♀️.

I get people’s concerns on where this could go, and I hope it’s the better outcome.

But I don’t think it’s this or the people resolve it, I don’t think they can.

laxydash · 03/01/2026 12:16

I'm not really sure, I have a friend from Venezuela who is in support of the US strikes though as she hates the government there and regards it as a dictatorship, she's worried for her family but hopeful it will be a positive change for the country. It's difficult to say if that is a mainstream view though, her family are quite wealthy and historically privileged. I am not sure how the average Venezuelan feels. I just wish for an end to the violence and suffering of all people caught up in the seemingly endless conflicts around the world.

thepariscrimefiles · 03/01/2026 12:17

He wants people to stop talking about the Epstein files so he's invaded another country. Stealing their natural resources is just a lucky bonus.

He's as mad a George III and he was one of the reasons why the US became a republic.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/01/2026 12:17

I’m confused - does the drugs that wreak havoc in USA originate in Venezuela?

The base product originates in Peru, Bolivia and Colombia, @Seriestwo, but it's mainly Colombia which processes and markets it, and while Venezuela doubtless have a small piece of the pie they're hardly a major player

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:21

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 12:16

I get people’s concerns on where this could go, and I hope it’s the better outcome.

But I don’t think it’s this or the people resolve it, I don’t think they can.

Well Michael McFaul (former US ambassador to Russia) has some ideas that don't involve invading and kidnapping, but they require diplomacy, patience and allies.

michaelmcfaul.substack.com/p/democracy-in-venezuela-must-be-restored?r=17z4l&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay&triedRedirect=true

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/01/2026 12:22

It means that Trump is enjoying throwing his weight around, just for a change.

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 12:23

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/01/2026 09:26

Venezuela has the world’s largest proven oil reserves.

I mean drugs, umm drugs, it’s definitely not oil.

What it is is utterly repulsive, illegal, immoral warmongering. The US has always done this. SE Asia, Central America, Southern Africa. But it was typically about regional and international politics (communism) or at least had a fig leaf of preventing terrorism. This is blatant.

BTW he also thinks Canada is supplying drugs (they aren’t). Will he bomb Ottawa, or is it only brown people that he does this to?

It's all part of the Munroe Doctrine 2.0 and a not very subtle hint that 'pulling a Putin' as it were is no real problem if you have a big-enough fist...

kαλοκαλοκαιρι · 03/01/2026 12:23

Livelovebehappy · 03/01/2026 09:41

Tbh, not the most reliable news source. They tend to have an agenda on most things. If Trump thinks there’s a drug problem with importing drugs into America, then he needs to deal with at his side, ie clamp down with security to stop the drugs coming in, rather than take the war to Venezuela, where inevitably there will be innocent lives lost. It just doesn't make sense.

i’m not a fan of AJ tbh but keen to know which news source you imagine does not have an agenda on most things? :)

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:23

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 12:12

Could it descend into civil war?

I honestly don't know, but I would say any military intervention/deposing of a leader has the potential to do that. Clean regime change is pretty unusual. When superpowers have a vested interest, it gets very easy for things to get messy.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/01/2026 12:27

I keep thinking about the story of the frog and the scorpion.

38thparallel · 03/01/2026 12:27

I honestly don't know, but I would say any military intervention/deposing of a leader has the potential to do that.

Does Maduro have enough supporters to fight against his opponents?

Seriestwo · 03/01/2026 12:31

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/01/2026 12:17

I’m confused - does the drugs that wreak havoc in USA originate in Venezuela?

The base product originates in Peru, Bolivia and Colombia, @Seriestwo, but it's mainly Colombia which processes and markets it, and while Venezuela doubtless have a small piece of the pie they're hardly a major player

tahnks. I was in USA last year and was shocked by the fentanyl users frozen on the streets, but I didn’t think it came from
venezuela. It seems to me a decent president would bemusing himself with home issues in peace time rather than this.

thw world is crazy

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 03/01/2026 12:32

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/01/2026 12:08

It wasn’t only for the UK/US benefit. It was for the benefit of Afghanistan too. But when it became an advantage in the US politically to campaign on pulling out the US/UK didn’t give a damn about everyday Afghans or the Afghans who had helped them and left themselves more at risk by doing so and effectively abandoned them.

The lesson is not to trust the US only as long as it is in their own interests to help and be prepared to end up in a worse position because of the help.

Venezuelans may not end up worse off than under Maduro. Put there are plenty of paths to being just as badly off with all the money flowing out of the country into the Trump cartel.

That was after 20 years there. How long were the US and the UK expected to nanny them for?

The withdrawal should have been managed better, but the total disintegration of the Afghan army was on the Afghans.

Abetse · 03/01/2026 12:33

theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

What its always about,minerals and oil- even in Ukraine thats why anericans and brits are wo invested, Europes biggest lithium mines

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 12:34

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 12:21

Well Michael McFaul (former US ambassador to Russia) has some ideas that don't involve invading and kidnapping, but they require diplomacy, patience and allies.

michaelmcfaul.substack.com/p/democracy-in-venezuela-must-be-restored?r=17z4l&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay&triedRedirect=true

Thanks for this his suggestions are interesting. I like the certainty of his first line and found reasons why it could work in Venezuela useful.

First and foremost, re-democratization is easier to achieve than creating democracy from scratch. Venezuela’s experience with democracy over several decades in the second half of the 20th century left a legacy that strengthens its prospects for a future transition. Unlike many other autocracies, Venezuela also has a successful history of a “pacted transition” to democracy. It’s been done there before. It can be done again.

Second, as political scientist Dankwart Rostow taught us decades ago, countries undergoing a regime change are more likely to consolidate democracy when they do not have deep ethnic or religious cleavages or disputes over borders. Venezuelan society lacks the deep ethno-sectarian divisions or organized minorities seeking territorial independence of a Libya, Syria, or Iraq.

Third, the Venezuelan opposition is united. Democratic opposition movements, especially those operating partially in exile, often suffer from internal divisions, both between leaders, and between those working inside the country and those based outside. Compared to other such movements, Venezuela’s opposition today is very united. That María Corina Machado just won the Nobel Peace Prize has added additional legitimacy to the movement. She is the uncontested leader of Venezuela’s democratic movement today, but in another plus for democracy’s future, this opposition coalition boasts many other strong, charismatic leaders, including especially Leopoldo Lopez, who will play positive, critical leadership roles in a new democratic government.

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