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Adam Ramsay Peaty

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Mrsnothingthanks · 29/12/2025 19:17

And why not? Why is it still seen as so "out there" that a man should double-barrel upon marriage? Nobody would pass one comment if his wife had changed her name to Holly Peaty.
My husband and I both db'd upon marriage. Titles remain unchanged.
It's 2025 ffs!! Stop with the misogyny!

OP posts:
Livelovebehappy · 29/12/2025 22:33

Holluschickie · 29/12/2025 19:24

They are such a cringe pair.

But we probably would barely have registered this marriage in our heads had his unhinged family not tried to drag their dirty washing into a public arena. I’m sure both would have liked to get married without the huge publicity they’ve had to contend with, and the circus which transpired at the church with the paparazzi. Not sure what in their behaviour you find cringe? They’ve been pretty quiet in comparison to his side.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:33

Binus · 29/12/2025 22:27

You seem confused. People aren't disputing that our naming system is mostly patrilineal. The disagreement is over your initial contention that women don't get their own surnames but men who received theirs in the same way do. Naturally, you've entirely failed to explain why that would be.

I have never argued men but not women own their surnames. In fact I have said no-one owns their surname, male or female. Men traditionally pass on their family name on marriage that’s all.

Mrsnothingthanks · 29/12/2025 22:35

@Drind I feel the same. But then I also don't like the title of Mrs. I have never felt the need to make a public declaration that I'm married - I'm sure nobody is actually interested.

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SouthLondonMum22 · 29/12/2025 22:38

Springbaby2023 · 29/12/2025 22:29

This is what we’ve done. At one point when pregnant we toyed with just giving the bany my surname. DH was up for it but wow the kickback he got from some of his family members was unreal, I remember a random cousin ringing him to say in no way should he let the baby have my surname (and it is my surname, not just my dad’s!)

DH and I are both very proud of our names so it was always going to be both. I think we'd be divorced if we could only pick one or the other.😂

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:38

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:33

I have never argued men but not women own their surnames. In fact I have said no-one owns their surname, male or female. Men traditionally pass on their family name on marriage that’s all.

You said women shouldn’t keep their own name if they wanted to appear feminist because their name was simply their father and grandfather’s.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:38

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:29

It doesn’t feel like my own. It legally is my own. Our names get to us and then they are our own.

Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of a woman changing her name on marriage? Do you think they might as well because they’ve only got their father’s (not their own) name anyway?

It’s legally your own and your husbands and his family; or if you kept your family name on marriage - it’s your siblings, parents, grandparents and cousins too.

Whether women change their name on marriage is entirely to them. Choosing one patrilineal name or another or sticking 2 together doesn’t make much odds.

Onceuponatimethen · 29/12/2025 22:39

@Drind I know what you mean but I chose to share dp’s only because I selfishly wanted to trade up. My original surname didn’t work with my first name and I hadn’t ever liked it. After all it was just another man’s name (my dad’s) before it was mine! Dp’s name was good and sounded a lot better with my first name. We couldn’t double barrel as the names would sound dire together. If doing it again now I would be tempted to pick a completely fresh surname and both change surname to that. Something like McCloud - have always like that one!

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2025 22:40

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/12/2025 19:31

It would be easy, I'll grant you.

I saw what you did there...

😁

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:41

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:38

It’s legally your own and your husbands and his family; or if you kept your family name on marriage - it’s your siblings, parents, grandparents and cousins too.

Whether women change their name on marriage is entirely to them. Choosing one patrilineal name or another or sticking 2 together doesn’t make much odds.

This isn’t always true. I have neither my fathers or my husbands surname.

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:41

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:38

It’s legally your own and your husbands and his family; or if you kept your family name on marriage - it’s your siblings, parents, grandparents and cousins too.

Whether women change their name on marriage is entirely to them. Choosing one patrilineal name or another or sticking 2 together doesn’t make much odds.

Names may have reached a woman from a patrilineal line. But then the name becomes the woman’s.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:42

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:38

You said women shouldn’t keep their own name if they wanted to appear feminist because their name was simply their father and grandfather’s.

No I didn’t, they can do what they like. It makes really no odds if they keep their father’s name or take their husband’s (father’s name).

I said if they wanted to take a feminist stand they could invent a new surname and pass it to their kids, thus breaking the patrilineal line completely.

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:43

Onceuponatimethen · 29/12/2025 22:39

@Drind I know what you mean but I chose to share dp’s only because I selfishly wanted to trade up. My original surname didn’t work with my first name and I hadn’t ever liked it. After all it was just another man’s name (my dad’s) before it was mine! Dp’s name was good and sounded a lot better with my first name. We couldn’t double barrel as the names would sound dire together. If doing it again now I would be tempted to pick a completely fresh surname and both change surname to that. Something like McCloud - have always like that one!

Why does it matter that it was your dad’s? You weren’t choosing between your dad’s name and your husband’s name. You were choosing between your name and your husband’s.

Denim4ever · 29/12/2025 22:44

I think both double barrelling would be ok, just one doing it is odd. I'd say the same of it was the woman double barrelling and man staying the same. My personal preferred option has been to keep my own name and likewise DH.

The 2 circs that I find odd are celebs who change their name professionally and unmarried people who give their kids the father's surname

SabrinaThwaite · 29/12/2025 22:45

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:10

I think the meaning went over your head.

Please do explain, because it means nothing to me (oh Vienna).

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:47

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:42

No I didn’t, they can do what they like. It makes really no odds if they keep their father’s name or take their husband’s (father’s name).

I said if they wanted to take a feminist stand they could invent a new surname and pass it to their kids, thus breaking the patrilineal line completely.

You’ve literally just said it again in this post. It is not her father’s name from the moment it goes on the birth certificate. It is a woman’s own.

A husband can choose to keep his father’s name or use his wife’s. Do you see how ridiculous it is when said that way?

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:47

SabrinaThwaite · 29/12/2025 22:45

Please do explain, because it means nothing to me (oh Vienna).

Her name is a rejection of the ‘Mrs’ title, hence the ‘nothing’ after Mrs.

StinkerTroll · 29/12/2025 22:51

How about people do what works for them and everyone else minds their own business, if someone double barrels, keeps their own name or switches it to that of their spouse it makes no difference to anyone else but them! Maybe it sounds stupid to your ear, maybe it sounds perfect to them!

ripleynot · 29/12/2025 22:52

Quite a lot of couples I know (probably nearly half) have both gone double barrelled over the last few years. Think it’s becoming very standard in some circles.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:53

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:41

This isn’t always true. I have neither my fathers or my husbands surname.

Sure there are variations. There exist matrlineal societies where kinship and clan names follow the mother’s side - eg some Native American tribes; some Jewish surnames are matronyms etc.

But in the U.K people who don’t have their father’s or husband’s surname may simply have their mother’s father’s surname, or mother’s grandfather’s surname if both were unmarried etc,

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:55

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:53

Sure there are variations. There exist matrlineal societies where kinship and clan names follow the mother’s side - eg some Native American tribes; some Jewish surnames are matronyms etc.

But in the U.K people who don’t have their father’s or husband’s surname may simply have their mother’s father’s surname, or mother’s grandfather’s surname if both were unmarried etc,

Again, that’s not always the case.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:57

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:55

Again, that’s not always the case.

Like I said, there are variations. Not all societies globally are patrilineal.

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:58

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:53

Sure there are variations. There exist matrlineal societies where kinship and clan names follow the mother’s side - eg some Native American tribes; some Jewish surnames are matronyms etc.

But in the U.K people who don’t have their father’s or husband’s surname may simply have their mother’s father’s surname, or mother’s grandfather’s surname if both were unmarried etc,

Why do you say they’ve got their mother’s father’s surname instead of simply their mother’s? They have quite simply got their mother’s name, regardless of why she was given her name.

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:59

Aluna · 29/12/2025 22:57

Like I said, there are variations. Not all societies globally are patrilineal.

And not all parts of UK society are either.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 23:00

Drind · 29/12/2025 22:47

You’ve literally just said it again in this post. It is not her father’s name from the moment it goes on the birth certificate. It is a woman’s own.

A husband can choose to keep his father’s name or use his wife’s. Do you see how ridiculous it is when said that way?

Let’s just accept you don’t get it and move on.

It’s perfectly true that a husband could choose to keep his father’s name or take his wife’s (father’s name). Adam has done both.

Aluna · 29/12/2025 23:01

GreenPoms · 29/12/2025 22:59

And not all parts of UK society are either.

The U.K. is part of the globe.