Adam Ramsay Peaty

[Mrsnothingthanks]

And why not? Why is it still seen as so "out there" that a man should double-barrel upon marriage? Nobody would pass one comment if his wife had changed her name to Holly Peaty.
My husband and I both db'd upon marriage. Titles remain unchanged.
It's 2025 ffs!! Stop with the misogyny!

It is definitely a fashion thing, to double barrel a name but not use a hyphen. I personally don’t like these two ‘y’ ending names together and would just have gone with one. I do like both of their first names though (Adam & Holly).

Yes in the conventional system (obviously there are huge exceptions that don't follow that) boys are given their father's name but then they become the fathers who dish that name out to children and wives. Surnames are generally male originated so have been passed along male lines and women have just been recipients of them, Men become custodians and bestowers of surnames as they grown up in most cases (again not all) but surnames based on male lines makes up the basis of our naming conventions in the UK and it's moves like Adam Peaty that are challenging that by at least creating a new name and a new convention. People are reading it as offensive to the family for a male to change his name but no one thinks anything of a woman doing it- there is an entrenched belief that males carry surnames.

What about your mother? Where does her name figure? Names have been passed by men for generations you can't debate that fact. Yes it becomes your name and women have names but it is a name that comes from a majority patriarchal naming system that we have had forever in the UK

As a feminist no way was I giving up my name

You mean your father's name? Isn't the point of feminism, you know, having the right to chose?

I have a colleague who took his wife's name and it's before his - eg Peter Smith marrying Louise Moore became Peter Moore-Smith.

Georgia Bell became Georgia Hunter Bell so she did it the other way round - but Jess Ennis became Jess Ennis-Hill.

But I agree with the posters who say the woman's name is (usually) her father's name anyway. So keeping it isn't a particularly feminist act. It would be more feminist to take your mother's surname, although she probably got it from her dad and not her mum as well. Really we need to get rid of the entire system. Maybe we should go (part) Icelandic - a girl could take her mum's name so if Sarah is born to Mary she'd be Sarah Marydaughter but if Mary was married to Peter and had a son called John, he's be John Peterson. Would make it very difficult to trace family trees though!

Sorry, meant to say the other way round. Peaty Ramsay sounds better!

I think it's about time we all did this (if we feel a need to have the same name as our spouse and children).
I kept my own name, but DH was willing to change his, or to go double-barrelled. His mother would have had a fit - she still refuses to acknowledge the fact that I use my own surname and sees it as done kind of personal affront.

Ramsay is the more famous name? Depends which angle you come from.

Gordon is a successful sweary chef and Adam is one of the top British athletes of all time.

Yet women who keep their names and don't accept their husbands name 'dished out' to them aren't also challenging that? As well as challenging the conventional system that last names don't belong to them just because they are a woman?

My name may have started out as my fathers name but it is just as much my name as DH's name is his.

It’s not unusual at all for women to have children then take a new husband’s name.

No. This is entirely wrong and false. Babies, boys and girls, are traditionally given their mother’s name. Traditionally, women took their husband’s upon marriage. But unmarried mothers’ babies would get their name, not the father’s. It is only recently this bollocks about ‘traditionally babies get their father’s name’ has been spouted. It isn’t true.

Babies have traditionally been given their mother’s and whether intentional or due to a misunderstanding somehow recently people have got it incorrectly into their heads that giving a baby an unmarried father’s name is traditional.

Correct - but those children would still share a name with their father?

It's her name. Why is it any less her name just because it came from her father? No one corrects a man and asks them if they mean their fathers name when they talk about their name.

I don’t think they flow well but I don’t think that matters. DH and I hyphenated our names so we’re Mr and Mrs Blank-Blank. As another poster has said, nobody batted an eyelid at me but they did at DH. I can’t see why anybody cares what anybody’s surname is.

My mother was a Bell and married a Robinson and took Robinson.

My mother’s mother was a Bell who had my mother when she was unmarried.

My grandmother’s mother was a Bell who had my grandmother when she was very young and unmarried.

Her mother was a Baxter, who married a Bell. Bell belongs no less to my mother, grandmother or great grandmother than it does my great grandfather.

And funnily enough Baxter is a name which originates from women, along with Webster, Brewster.

A man does not lend a daughter his name until she marries. The name belongs to the girl and woman.

How is it her father’s name instead of simply her own name? Why are some women so obsessed with the idea that surnames belong to men?

When you are born you get a legal surname name. It is your name. It is irrelevant who of your parents carry it

Agree. Surnames are all men’s names passed down by the patriarchy. The idea that a surname is a woman’s own is odd - it’s her fathers and his fathers and his fathers.

Because they understand the patrilineal naming system.

He has a son from a previous relationship who has the surname Peaty, so dropping it altogether would be fairly difficult, I imagine.

It depends if those children had the name of their father or mother.

And Adam does still have Peaty in his name, same as his son.

And one day his son might marry and change his name.

I raised this in an earlier thread and got skated by those lovely mymsnwytwts who skate you forgetting a thread rather than scrolling in ! Good luck !

So newborn boys own their name and newborn girls don’t?

Holleee
Ramseee
Peateeee
Sounds shit

Or Ramty