Why am I paying for these people to get benefits when they have

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Only joking! If I have to see another thread from some selfish fucker moaning about other people having seemingly more than them, I'm going to rip my eyes out. Pay your fucking taxes and stop being so selfish! Or quit your job and go on benefits then if it's such the high life.

That's brilliant. It wouldn't infect the rest of the site that way and all the bots could talk to each other and to any real members that wish to engage.

Yes because people who are unhappy must be bots!

This is a fantastic idea.

Hear hear! Tax the mega rich, tax the mansions, tax me. Fuck it all off, if you're being charged more tax it's because you deserve to pay more.

So you regard all people on benefits as scroungers then do you?

So, let me get this straight, you want help but you don’t want anyone else to have it? It’s ok for you to make baseless, immature comments about those that do receive help - for their children or to compensate for lost earnings due to ailing health - but you lament others seemingly calling you out on your glaring sense of entitlement. Are you really so thick that you can’t see the irony in that?

Grow up and shut up. The sooner you stop whingeing about your own minor inconveniences and actually take some responsibility for improving your circumstances, the better. I know nothing of you but I’m genuinely embarrassed for you.

Great thread though, OP! Agree with you entirely.

I just want fairness. And at the moment it is NOT fair that a working family with modest incomes can find themselves worse off than those on benefits. And told by loons that they should be glad to contribute more!

The removal of the 2 child limit won't apply to me, even though I have six children. Four were born before April 2017, and two are exempt under the "rape clause" (thank God that's gone!). But from reading comments on here and everywhere else, it looks likely that more prejudice, stereotypical thinking and presumptions will be sent my way.

I actually fled domestic abuse with all of the children, and after being in refuge for a while we now private rent 3.5 hours away.

I didn't "have" to work, because I have a child who receives DLA, but despite having no support network here and the abusive ex who likes to use family court to torture me, within weeks of moving here I started my Law degree and got a job in a prison.

I know deep down that I should be proud of myself, but the silent hatred is palpable...

@MNHQ petition for a Benefits Bashing board please, so that normal people don't have to listen to them and they can have a little echo chamber to whine to their heart's content.

You are made to work and if you don’t, you are constantly having to prove that you are looking. if you can’t provide enough evidence or fail to report, you are fined and have benefits stopped. You are made to work as soon as your youngest turns 2.

There are savings incentives
For every £10 you put in the Govn puts in £5
up to £50 a month with the Govn putting in £25. No requirement to pay regularly and the accounts are open for four years

NMW has risen again
support via UC for rent
discount on ctax if living alone

I Agree with your comments just wanted to point out a few support areas available that came to mind

I think there’s a difference between the requirement to work and the requirement to work full time
The later is not required

How much are you saving a month for your deposit @ILoveHotChocolates? If you are on NMW you should be taking home £1800 per month so if you’re still living at home with loving parents you should be able to stash away £1000 per month. If you’re 26 now I guess you’ve been saving for 5 years if you went to Uni - or even more if not.

So five years at £1000 per month using combination of a LISA and a standard cash ISA you should have approximately £68,000 by now, including £5,000 of taxpayers money! Well done! See how working pays!

You can now go and buy a modest property, something that many people on UC can only dream of.

i hate the work shy. Get a job and stop relying on hand outs.

NMW is not £1800 per month 😂 not after pensions etc.

im not saving £1,000 a month because a - I didn’t finish uni until I was 23. B), I have living expenses? I don’t give a fuck if people on UC can’t buy. As they shouldn’t.

Well said OP

The LISA is a pathetic tool that is designed to make it look like they’re doing more. £1,000 on £4,000 of savings is ridiculous

If you'd worked in welfare for 40 years like me, you'd have a very different opinion.

Thanks OP. Really tired of the vitriol aimed at the poorest in our society. It’s nothing new, people have done this certainly as long as I’ve been alive. I remember it constantly during Blair’s era when I was growing up. Wild stories of people having 10 kids ‘just to get benefits’ and everyone would be furious.

All the while Elon Musk could afford to give every country a billion dollars and still be a billionaire.

Yet you lot will happily sit and slag off workers who work full time and can’t afford anything in this economy, because we should just go without any sort of luxury. Meanwhile all these work shy people get thousands a month. They’re not the poorest in society by any stretch!

Go on then how much have you saved? Or do you just want to whine and whine and get it for free?

i work with assholes whose main preoccupation seems to be complaining about mothers on benefits and claiming dla

I’ve got £10k in a LISA but guess what? It’s good for nothing because house prices have spiralled out of control. I’m spending £350 a month just to get to work because public transport prices have skyrocketed. Food is another £350 a month. That’s £700 of my wage gone before anything else. Add in other expenses and the fact that I, shockingly, don’t want to only work, I’m saving whatever I can. But sure, my age group are so awful

The hatred towards wealthy people always baffles me. There’s a lot of wealthy people out there who have actually made that money themselves by working, even making huge sacrifices over the years because they know it will eventually pay off.
It seems people prefer those who sit on their backsides and refuse to get a job over anybody with money.
That’s the real issue. People really hate rich, successful people.

On a lot of threads about benefits, someone will bring up one of the famous millionaires or billionaires and talk about all their money. So what? What’s that got to do with anything?

I’m not rich, far from it, but I don’t hate people who have worked and made money.