Tax TAx TAX!!!!!! Fuming at our government!

[Baldylovingbeard]

please try and convince me otherwise…..

What a joke this government are!!! ( UK)

Let’s just tax everyone who earns a bit of cash!!! Oh and while we’re at it… go on have loads more children it’s ok others will pay for them!!! Cutting the 2child benefit cap! If you decide to have multiple children you should be able to afford to provide for them. NOT expect others too!!!!! If you fall on hard times and you’ve worked and contributed to paying tax than you are within your rights to claim tax this is what benefits were made for, it’s not a means to not work, have more kids….etc!

Oh and if you work really hard and want to put some money by for you later days in life…. You’ll be taxed!

My situation:
Part time work, full time mum to 1 child. I work for myself and earn around 10k this money usually pays for things our daughter needs… clothes, clubs, any treats.
Husband works long hours, his under a lot of stress with his job, he has worked his way to and earns a very good salary 100k he gets taxed 60% you do the maths on that! We live in a 3 bed around £280k so nothing crazy but live within our means. We have one car! One holiday a year! Put money into savings! Pension! our daughter goes to one after school club. My husband got kicked out of home at 16…. He has worked with no help from family or friends and I believe he has worked very hard to get to where he is now. we are generous with charity’s and try our best to help out when we can if we can!

I dont have paper evidence it common sense.
In a few months just look around your see it for yourself.

@SpaceRaccoon ooh could I borrow that magic ball you are using please? There are few things I would LOVE the answer to...

Also I already said I would be happy to pay towards more welfare - I don't like children in poverty - weird that you do.

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Bloody suffragettes! That's where the rot set in, let me tell you.

Meaningful members of society?! Absolutely! No place for these people in our society! They are meaningless!

Why are people struggling to understand who will be impacted by lifting the two child cap on the child element of UC🤯

This is unlikely to benefit people who have no intention for working and spit out child after child. It will, however, benefit low income workers with more than 2 children who rely on UC. It will benefit WORKING people predominantly.

The overall benefit cap is still in place.

So if your husband decided to leave you and you had 4 children together, you would now be able to continue working part time, receive adequate UC and provide for them.

We have become a society that begrudges contributing to the whole of society and its depressing.

its not like the neoliberal politics of the Thatcher government and subsequent Tory administration have been a rip roaring success is it?! Happy to see the poorest in society suffer, but not happy to pay a fair share.

I remember the 1970’s, ….the 3day week was legislation enacted by the Tories and ended by Labour in 1974. I remember the Winter of Discontent too when Labour stood firm against escalating union demands for pay rises. Cost them an election…..only for the Tories to do the same by decimating the unions…. So what was your point about bad nasty Labour and the 1970’s?

How is it progressive for the tax rate to go up to 62%, then drop to 47%?

I can't understand how people who have an issue with high-levels of immigration, also are against scrapping the child benefit cap.

You can't have low immigration and disincentivise poor people having children.

@Stillpoor its not common sense at all.

No country has reversed birth rates once they are below replacement rate and you think this will do it?

As Kemi Badenoch said - they’re taxing everyone doing the right thing. Labour only support people being on benefits, as KB said Labour are the benefits party. They tax everyone else and quash growth.

You are the second person on here today whose household earns well over 100k and has their own home, car, holidays every year moaning about money.
someone will be along in a minute crying about the mansion tax on her £2m house.

Also you must be gifting him 10 % of your personal allowance as married couples are entitled to do

It’s true but OP makes it sounds like the whole £100k is taxed at 60% which is a long way from the truth, but many are ignorant to this (maybe including the op).

If he’s on “£100k” to quote the op then considering the effective 60% tax rate only kicks in at 100k he’s probably only paying 60% on a very small amount of income.

If you are going to make such a post OP, at least be truthful.

Your husband isn't paying 60% tax on 100k.

But don't worry @Baldylovingbeard, given that you don't pay tax, your own hard earned money isn't going to feckless breeders.

Stupidity?

Yes because the Tories didn’t increase taxes…

How does that work ? Sky news says tax thresholds are frozen. Surely OPs DH income tax won't rise ?

"Tax thresholds will be frozen for an additional three years
The point at which people start paying higher rates of tax will be held. It can mean earners will be dragged into higher tax bands when they get a pay rise."

If you think giving money direct to feckless parents is going to benefit the children then fair enough - I don't.

National debt is 95% of GDP - there will be no lavish spend on public services.

Is that a serious comment?

I think you’ll find it’s mainly immigrant families that have the big families. And before you leap in I’m not anti immigrant. However an immigrant friend has 6 children and gets a lot of benefits already. Will be more now.

What an awful thing to say

She’s not wrong though is she.

@SpaceRaccoon So a mother who had three children with a man who left her or died and is struggling to juggle single parenthood and working is feckless?

Ok cool - because that is exactly the type of person this change will benefit most. Working single parents.

Or did you just not bother to look at the details when the red mist of benefits rage descended.

I didn't say lavish at any point either, weird that you are making things up.

What I don’t get is a lot of the taxes she is bringing in don’t come into effect until 28/29/30?can’t whoever wins the next general election just put a stop to it?

@AlexaStopAlexaNo I think she is, growing up in a council house etc doesn’t mean you are meaningless. Why would you think that?